King Allant
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TX State Senator leads 11 hour filibuster that successfully beats anti-abortion bill
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holy fuck lol
I am Michael Bolton
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Theoretically, we're less than an hour away from when the author of the bill would have to recall his bill in order to pass the other more important and less controversial bills.
Agreed so can the Republican's pull any dirty tactics and table the motion for Senator Watson to speak?
If they don't follow the rules can the democrats take further action or if the bill gets passed today no matter how the Republican's do it. They win?
dude, this is the recess before the final showdown. gotta allow that tension to build up.
Mgoblue201
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It really obviates the entire point of a filibuster if the majority can stop it with a simple vote (after arbitrarily ruling that the speech isn't "germane" to the discussion).
No, she's still standing at her desk.
For people tuning in - no sound at the moment. Stay tuned.
Nothing is more important than this. Fast and pray to end abortion in Texas today!!!!!
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So what happens in an hour if this goes on till then?
I'm honestly surprised they waited so long to do it
Session ends. Perry can call another 30-day session if he wants
They can try, but the national blow back against the GOP will be pretty severe at this point. If it passes the Dems can't really do anything but hope that they can win both chambers of congress and the gubernatorial election and change the law that way.
I'd watch the shit out of that.
Unknown Soldier
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I think I saw this in a movie once. Well, at least without sound I know I don't have to keep my eyes glued, I can do other stuff I gotta do like pay bills while I wait.
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1 hour 6 minutes left.
Brawndo Addict
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Thanks for the clarification.
I don't think they're in East Texas.
phosphor112
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Ah, I see. So she can't continue if she wanted to?
Nope, she's done for today.
Because the session ends tonight. They'd have had to make those plans much earlier, plus this is a special session so it may not even be possible if they did.
Black Mamba
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Either douche Perry calls a new special session or the session ends and everyone goes home.
That's assuming the author of the bill doesn't retract it so they can vote on other bills first.
Actually if it passes I'm fairly certain it would be taken to court and end up in the supreme courts lap.
They are.
phosphor112
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No, she was ruled out of order by the previous chair. Watson is trying to appeal that ruling which is eligible for debate. If that debate were to end, the members would vote on whether to sustain the chair's ruling. Since they want to end the fillibuster, they will sustain it, forcing Davis to yield the floor. The plan is to waste time debating the appeal instead
That's just the rules. Session ends when it ends. (And if they did try, the amount of stalling materiel it would give the dems would cover any time they gain anyways)
spandexmonkey
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Watching this has been great, but why again is this kind of filibuster no longer common at the federal level? I know they just threaten to do it and thats it, but none of the drama.
I don't think any state party gives a shit about what someone outside of the State thinks about what they do. They have only to answer to their constituents.
And lol @ the notion the Democrats can take over Texas.
I am Michael Bolton
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Um?
Black Mamba
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Technically, she's not, because the PoO is being appealed. If Watson wins that appeal, the previous PoO is overruled.
We all know that won't happen, but it's technically possible which means she technically ain't done. She's wobbling, though.
Man, if I was there after this was over I'd carry her around. What a trooper.
Squirrel Killer
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If this latest point of order (new chair cannot hear new motions or points of order) is sustained, Sen Watson's motion to appeal is up for debate (and the filibuster continues.) If it is overturned, Sen Numbnuts' (sorry, I didn't catch his real name) motion to table the motion to appeal is up to be voted on. If that happens, the motion to table will probably succeed on party lines, and the motion to appeal will be tabled. After that, SB5 will probably be taken up and voted on, but it really shouldn't since there is the motion to appeal that's still germane.
@EricaGrieder
Sounds like Estes may withdraw point of order or whatever that was for the reason @gtroyp cited earlier #TxLege #SB5
Went to @gtroyp feed, and this tweet is the best candidate I could find for what she may be referencing there.
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Some one tell Sen west that the chair recognized Estes for a parliamentary inquiry. The motion during the inquiry would be out of order #sb5
Are we talking East East Texas, like Tyler or some shit? Or just East as in not west Texas, Dallas/Houston? Because that would be super ironic if the only clinics left were in the Bibliest part of the state out east.
Sounds like Estes may withdraw point of order or whatever that was for the reason @gtroyp cited earlier #TxLege #SB5
Went to @gtroyp feed, and this tweet is the best candidate I could find for what she may be referencing there.
@GtroyP 18m
Some one tell Sen west that the chair recognized Estes for a parliamentary inquiry. The motion during the inquiry would be out of order #sb5
Are we talking East East Texas, like Tyler or some shit? Or just East as in not west Texas, Dallas/Houston? Because that would be super ironic if the only clinics left were in the Bibliest part of the state out east.
It could, but just looking over the summary there doesn't seem to be anything blatantly unconstitutional in the law. It's just really really scummy is all. They'd need some sort of legal standing to do it.
Sure, but it costs a lot of money and this time he won't be able to slip in abortion later
ConfusingJazz
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They aren't, East Texas has a specific meaning. They will be in the eastern half of Texas, but they won't be in East Texas.
Unless Nacogdoches gets super abortion heavy.
jamesinclair
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Its not christian to work past midnight
Shouldn't they be able to appeal the ruling on this point of order as well?
Next decade or two. lol @ GOP continuing its same bullshit
Just listening to the rule Watson spoke that started this delay, I don't think the member called to chair is even able to recognize points of order if he's taking the chair due to this type of appeal. So the only thing he should have recognized were parliamentary inquiries. That's what it sounded like, anyway, which makes the actions leading up to this reflect even worse on the parliamentarian.
I'm interested to see if they'll even fuck with the debate or pull the bill now and just try to get the other two behind this through.
Squirrel Killer
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Technically, Sen. Watson is appealing the ruling that the third warning ends Sen Davis' holding of the floor.
We all know how that motion would be decided, but at this point, wasting the time to discuss it is the point.
Escape Goat
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what does that mean?
A Human Becoming
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Well over 90% of Planned Parenthoods activity is devoted to performing abortions, so it's worth taking away all those other services.
lol Jon Kyl
You're right about the first one, but I assume the national committee could make their lives hell for a while as far as fund raising goes (or just plain not bother helping anyone with national ambitions) if they wind up with too much egg on their face.
My second point was meant to get a nice laugh, we all know that won't happen this decade. Or even the one after that.
Yes, voting doesn't take long depending on how they decide to do it. They can vote in under a minute if they really tried with the electronic voting things.
Stay tuned in 2016. I think we'll be closer to purple than we have been in a long time.
speculawyer
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No, I don't think she can sit or even lean on anything.
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