No, but these legislators certainly voted in line with the popular opinion of their districts and are therefore representative. The problem is, that defeats the purpose of having a legislature.
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TX State Senator leads 11 hour filibuster that successfully beats anti-abortion bill
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No, but these legislators certainly voted in line with the popular opinion of their districts and are therefore representative. The problem is, that defeats the purpose of having a legislature.
cr_blah_blah
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@sethabramson: Holy crap: AP has revealed its ONLY source: The Rep Lieutenant Governor. ARE YOU KIDDING WITH THIS.
He was the chair of the proceedings. Unless that hack of a parliamentarian says otherwise, that is what he would naturally go with
died.
Hahaha, amazing. I guess we have to wait for the real result to come out.
Wow, talk about shoddy reporting. Did they even ask to see the time stamp? That's all that matters here.
Black Mamba
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With all due respect, the gallery was composed and fine until the GOP chair opted to ignore the rules completely, despite being confronted with them, for an hour in an attempt to RAM the bill through against the procedure of the chamber and thus your argument is not a good one.
The unruly crowd wasn't trying to stop a bad bill, they were trying to prevent the GOP circumventing rules to pass something undemocratically,
PhoenixDark
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Come on. Overall Texas probably agrees with this law among other ridiculous things. Texas is...well, Texas. Big, dumb, and very red.
Tonight's events will likely have more impact outside of Texas than inside, unless we see a truly Herculean effort to recruit unregistered voters, specifically Hispanics.
cr_blah_blah
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Olivia Messer ‏@OliviaMesser 18m
Timekeeper says the vote started at 12:03 #sb5
Timekeeper says the vote started at 12:03 #sb5
Yeah, actually, I should say that some recycling creates more pollution and is costly but, hey, it's hard to say that we prefer turning to new stock.
Brawndo Addict
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I'm pretty sure I saw people posting stats that over 80% of voters in Texas didn't support the bill. Let me go try to find them.
Velcro Fly
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There is no way it passed. The AP should get torched for running with only that as a source. I have no doubt it will be back again anyway though.
Well that sounds very interesting.
That's, what, the third report that the vote was past midnight?
Angelus Errare
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boom
If you exclude the 150k people that watched it pass after midnight
Black Mamba
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yesssss
Recent bipartisan poll showed 80% were against them voting on this bill..
Haha, of course, I just meant officially.
Brawndo Addict
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Okay, it wasn't a stat on the bill per se, it was whether it should be considered during the special session. So probably not anywhere near that high in terms of the bill in the abstract.
PhoenixDark
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Watson is Daario.
Not sure if this is true.
https://twitter.com/amandad214/status/349766503505223680/photo/1
Shows that the vote took place on the 6/26/2013 and not the 6/25/2013???
https://twitter.com/amandad214/status/349766503505223680/photo/1
Shows that the vote took place on the 6/26/2013 and not the 6/25/2013???
Escape Goat
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2016 is going to be very interesting year. All this abortion legislation is going to sow a lot of problems later on.
ClassyPenguin
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Welcome to modern journalism. I am glad there is an organization like ProPublica that takes it seriously.
I am Michael Bolton
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No. This is democracy in action. Most of Texas is against this bill but the Repulicans couldn't care less. People made their voices heard in THE PEOPLES HOUSE. This was an event that displayed democracy at it's finest and it's unfortunate that you don't recognize it.
perfectchaos007
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Here's live video of the commotion in the lobby
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/chris...gn=t.co&utm_source=10021075&utm_medium=social
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/chris...gn=t.co&utm_source=10021075&utm_medium=social
Honestly, that was CLEARLY what it sounded like to me. So it was strange when people were saying it passed.
Black Mamba
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63% believe the state shouldn't restrict abortion anymore in that survey. Not quite 80% but a large majority.
Also, the direct bill, is not supported by the majority.
Angry Fork
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Fuck this shit. You should be ashamed, this is the kind of reasoning that kills protests all over. More and more people should get angry and disrupt all order with their bodies when misery and poverty for millions are on the line.
That was Ann Richards' daughter.
Furious in NC. Trust me. To the point that I want to leave the state. But I won't. Not yet.
If the politicians won't represent the people, then who will represent them if not the people? Telling that you speak nothing of misconduct first launched by those on the floor, and leave all your chastisement to the people who evidently don't approve of the circus meant to emulate their will and approval.
Brawndo Addict
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Well there you go, my bad for not following through the link and just using the quote.
my name is ed
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I probably had like half a dozen friends in the gallery. I don't think any of them were arrested. I'm very thankful for their efforts and the efforts of select senators, especially Wendy Davis.
NC is close to turning. Romney only won by 1-2% last year. By 2020 it will be as hard for Reps to win in NC as it is in VA now.
Black Mamba
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haha, read this random tweet:
The quote firmly establishes very few people wanted this brought up in the special session. There has to be backlash for the way this went down.
The quote firmly establishes very few people wanted this brought up in the special session. There has to be backlash for the way this went down.
My confusion was/is that on the motion to table, while Watson was giving his closing on the motion to appeal, Estes interrupted and filed a motion to call the previous question to a vote (motion to table). They voted and passed the motion to table and then voted to deny the appeal. Then a motion to call the previous question (which I thought was a motion to pass SB5 -- or was it a procedural motion?) was filed again. They had the inquiries about breaking the rules and not letting the woman file any motions etc, and the crowd started shouting but they counted the votes and announced it past. Fast forward to midnight, they rammed through another vote.
What was the previous question they voted on?
Link?
So, rule by whoever screams the loudest and might get the most violent? Yeah, no thanks.
Moving the previous question is a motion to immediately vote on a bill. It's a necessary step before actually voting on a bill.
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