ErasureAcer said:There are no such thing as "innoncent americans" when Americans are represented by piece of shit governments over the years who provoke the world to attack them.
Pigs we get what pigs deserve.
We as Americans are not special. Just because 3,000 "civilians" were killed on 9/11 doesn't make them anymore important than the 3,000 civilians that died in some African country today.
The Shadow said:I should die because of policies I didn't make, made by politicians I didn't vote for?
Fuck you.
Democratic citizens know that they must bear the burden of responsibility for their society if they are to benefit from its protection of their rights.
There is a saying in free societies: you get the government you deserve. For democracy to succeed, citizens must be active, not passive, because they know that the success or failure of the government is their responsibility, and no one else's. In turn, government officials understand that all citizens should be treated equally and that bribery has no place in a democratic government.
In a democratic system, people unhappy with their leaders are free to organize and peacefully make the case for change -- or try to vote those leaders out of office at established times for elections.
Fifty said:I find it odd that the intelligence community makes this known to the public.
sp0rsk said:I bet the assassinate carrot top.
ErasureAcer said:Supporting pos governments since the end of FDR.
We've armed tens of millions of people worldwide to kill others...take a look at history. It is only natural that these people are going to be pissed off because we killed their brother/sister father/mother or daughter/son.
If America wants to get ahead with the world it should stop outspending the world combined in weapons development and start giving its money to the needy.
War is not inevitable(I'm a DK supporter and believer in his ideals) but when you keep aggravating people you're bound to be struck back at. If we, the American people, support this shit and as a whole with majority rule(although we really don't need a majority in this country to get elected...which is another topic)...then yes we all should be held accountable for our government's actions.
It's the only way to make the American people care about what its government does if they lose something in return for all that their government has done to other countries. Even now, with no major force on the planet to rival the American Military we just increased military spending another 40 billion dollars for 2005 up to 440 billion. INSANE. ABSOLUTELY INSANE. We spend this money not to be "prepared" but to actually attack and fuck over other nations. Bomb run here, bomb run there...WE ARE NOT GOD! If we say through our actions that it is okay to pull out a bomb run why is it not right for al-qaeds to pull out a bomb run?
We, as Americans, have elected governments that have made killing okay...in Iraq alone we've killed over 10,000 people who had no arms up against us. So why is it not okay for others to attack our "civilians"?
We created a civlianless world with all the wars we've fought, with all the weapons we've handed out, with all the terrorists we've trained(Latin, South America)...one can only hope that we can fix these wrongs and bring America to a point of leadership but none of the candidates I see in the general election are promoting peace and the end to bombing runs, the end to civilians being killed.
We as Americans are not special. Just because 3,000 "civilians" were killed on 9/11 doesn't make them anymore important than the 3,000 civilians that died in some African country today.
Any american who loses someone they love to a "Terrorist" should thank their government first. New Zealand doesn't even have a fucking air force, do you see them getting attacked? Nope because they don't piss people off and don't want to control the world. Nobody dying in New Zealand from terrorists.
To answer your question, Americans are guilty of electing people to represent them who provoke and enrage the world for the past 58 years. There would be no George W. Bush or John Kerry without Joe and Jane America. We are guilty of supporting these horrible horrible candidates. If someone killed me for it...I couldn't blame em. Then again I don't think I'm voting for either. If I die by terrorists, that's what I get for living in this pos country. At least I'll know how the other side truly feels when a bomb comes exploding in my home...even then my death will be just a speck compared to what this country has done to the rest of the world.
The only nations with innoncent civilians are those who aren't actively attacking others...New Zealand for instance. If terrorists struck New Zealand tomorrow, that truely would be a shame.
Loki said:Fuck you, you vacant apologist bitch.
You should be banned. If someone came in here and said that all Arabs and Muslims were filthy dogs who deserve to be liquidated in the searing heat of a nuclear holocaust, you can bet your ass they'd be banned. Again, fuck you, in case you missed it the first time.
Loki said:Fuck you, you vacant apologist bitch.
I'm not excusing anything this country's gov't has done, but you mean to tell me that I deserve to die for actions perpetrated by a few? Get the hell out of here.
You should be banned. If someone came in here and said that all Arabs and Muslims were filthy dogs who deserve to be liquidated in the searing heat of a nuclear holocaust, you can bet your ass they'd be banned. Again, fuck you, in case you missed it the first time.
How dare you. Your day of judgment will come, my friend.
darscot said:This is so typical. ErasureAcer stood up and said his bit. Agree or disagree what he did is right. Maybe more of you should do the same. But instead people cry about it and start with the how dare you crap. Ban him? Why should he be banned, for speaking his mind for doing the right thing. Or simply because you dont like what he says and would like to see him censored. So many of you act like "Americans" as the world views you. He is the one that is acting the way you should.
6.8 said:They have as much right as to say "how dare you" as he has to say stupidities.
6.8 said:Say stupid things and grossly generalize? Insulting many people for something they are not necessarily?
Hope your $300 tax check is worth living the rest of your life in fear.
Mustang said:I live with no fear. I am not afraid of a bunch of rag headed fucks.
You shouldn't be either.
Mustang said:I live with no fear. I am not afraid of a bunch of rag headed fucks.
You shouldn't be either.
Mustang said:I live with no fear. I am not afraid of a bunch of rag headed fucks.
You shouldn't be either.
darscot said:Being stupid is not a crime or a banable offense. This forum would be vacant if it was.
Saint Cornelius said:It's a tough life, get a helmet. [/hicks]
Mustang, you're a douchebag
Freeburn said:That was Leary, not Hicks.
Leary wasn't fit to lick Hicks boots
Mustang said:I have some muslim friends and many are good people.
This bit always cracks me up.
Mustang said:And why would that crack you up?
Saint Cornelius said:Leary stole his entire act from him
and many people agree .
Mustang said:And why would that crack you up?
Dude, you can't blame the people living in a tyranny for what their tyrant does. They don't exactly have any say. You *can* however blame the people living in a democracy because (at least according to the PR) the people living in a democracy have the final say in what their government does.Sorry, but I have a problem twisting that into anyone elses fault but the Iraqis.
racist asshole.
But really now, we need to just not have a military at all.
SteveMeister said:When we vote in Presidential elections, the popular vote is used to determine which candidate's electors vote for each state, and then the electors cast their votes (usually for the candidate they represent, but they don't absolutely HAVE to).
Mustang said:I guess I am a racist because I think one small group of people (Al Qaida) are scum of the earth.
Good lord. I just apologized for going off the handle in an inappropriate way but I guess you won't be able to let it go.