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[Freshmaker]

tito gets wild praise since when?! :lol :lol

Well, any praise for Tito would be wild praise, so I stand by the claim. :lol

 

[RiccochetJ]

Would be hard on Sonnen in a rematch. Gotta win it the first time when you're the underdog.

Tell that to Rua.

 

[AstroLad]

Lame post fight press conference. Someone there should have called Sonnen out for his 'fake tapping'. Pretending he didn't tap was pathetic. But Sonnen still got some respect from me, he's a fighter, differently than Fitch, who singlehandedly represents all that this sport doesn't need. I practice grappling, I'm actually one of these few people who watches and enjoys pure grappling tournaments, but it's infuriating seeing Fitch fighting, he just can't finish at all, he doesn't look for submission or to gnp his opponent, he doesn't want to do anything except pinning his opponent down, the card was just incredible except by his lame performance, again.

yeah whatever he dominated alves and was working the entire fight. as far as finishing why don't you check on the last time your boy chael finished someone. more to the sport than one-shot kos and inverse triangles. just stick to highlights as you don't seem to have much patience for anything else

 

[Zeliard]

Tell that to Rua.

Shogun did win it the first time.

 

[NinjaCodah]

Man.

It better be Belfort next, wtf. Dude's been waiting in the wings since September.

No way man, Chael earned 1,000,000 points for another shot tonight. I've always been very much looking forward to see Vitor fight Anderson, but now is not the time to let Anderson run away from Chael Sonnen. We all saw him get his ass kicked tonight, excuses or not.

 

[Shaheed79]

Sonnen bitch ass just lost me 400 bucks! He had 1 minute left of a FIVE ROUND title fight with ANDERSON SILVA where he WON 4 ROUNDS and was WINNING the 5TH and then taps to a triangle with ONE MINUTE LEFT?!

"FORREST WHAT THE F*CK?"

I was already spending my winnings when his bitch ass tapped. This is karma for ever thinking I could get a free pay day just for "experiments sake".

I just spent the past hour explaining to my friend why I just lost him 200 bucks.

 

[akachan ningen]

No way man, Chael earned 1,000,000 points for another shot tonight. I've always been very much looking forward to see Vitor fight Anderson, but now is not the time to let Anderson run away from Chael Sonnen. We all saw him get his ass kicked tonight, excuses or not.

Did we?

 

[samus i am]

Just got back from watching the fight and I have to say this was one of the most entertaining cards ever. I think that Sonnen proved that Silva has some serious holes in his game but overall you have to give props to Silva on the win. He was continuously rocked in the face by Sonnen and still found a way to win. You have to give you props to him for that. There are so many fighters that would not have been able to last.

 

[NinjaCodah]

Did we?

I certainly did, and I got 40/20 vision.

 

[RiccochetJ]

Shogun did win it the first time.

Well... that is... even if... the judges said...
NO HE DIDENT! JUDGES SAID SO!
hate you so much....

Spoiler

 

[Zeliard]

No way man, Chael earned 1,000,000 points for another shot tonight. I've always been very much looking forward to see Vitor fight Anderson, but now is not the time to let Anderson run away from Chael Sonnen. We all saw him get his ass kicked tonight, excuses or not.

Eh. It wasn't a controversial fight, though, like Penn/Edgar and Shogun/Machida. Those two fights demanded instant rematches. This one doesn't really scream for one. Sonnen was taking it to Anderson but ended up losing cleanly. He had his shot and lost it. It's time for the next guy to step up.

 

[dem]

Sonnen vs Belfort

though im pretty sure that ends with a Sonnen win

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

Come on now everyone, where are the great gifs from JDS Vs Big Country?!?!?!

So many big bombs thrown in that fight.

 

[akachan ningen]

Come on now everyone, where are the great gifs from JDS Vs Big Country?!?!?!

So many big bombs thrown in that fight.

I don't want to relive that. Nelson just got tenderized.

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

Eh. It wasn't a controversial fight, though, like Penn/Edgar and Shogun/Machida. Those two fights demanded instant rematches. This one doesn't really scream for one. Sonnen was taking it to Anderson but ended up losing cleanly. He had his shot and lost it. It's time for the next guy to step up.

It was a close fight, closest Anderson has had in a long time and that warrants a rematch. I did not see Penn/Edgar as being controversial but more of it being just a razor close fight.

 

[Barrage]

I withstood a loudmouth's chiirps for FOUR ROUNDS, then ran that motherfucker into the ground when Siilva got the win.

When I ran outside, I sprained both ankles. Who the fuck is karma supposed to be punishing here?

 

[RiccochetJ]

Sonnen vs Belfort

though im pretty sure that ends with a Sonnen win

Isn't Belfort a walking injury? After his Franklin fight I thought he was supposed to be #1? But yes, Sonnen unless he get's caught by the fists of fury.

 

[Fio]

yeah whatever he dominated alves and was working the entire fight. as far as finishing why don't you check on the last time your boy chael finished someone. more to the sport than one-shot kos and inverse triangles. just stick to highlights as you don't seem to have much patience for anything else

I don't like Sonnen, he loves stalling as well and he is a boring fighter, but he does try to gnp, Fitch doesn't, Fitch doesn't care about improving his position, submitting or gnp-ing, it's incredible how his fights are always the same shit.

The welterweight division is just fucked with the likes of Fitch, St. Pierre, Koscheck and now Shields being the dominant fighters.

 

[NinjaCodah]

Eh. It wasn't a controversial fight, though, like Penn/Edgar and Shogun/Machida. Those two fights demanded instant rematches. This one doesn't really scream for one. Sonnen was taking it to Anderson but ended up losing cleanly. He had his shot and lost it. It's time for the next guy to step up.

After a fight like this, I can see why Silva fans wouldn't want to see another fight...

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

I don't want to relive that. Nelson just got tenderized.

That is better than I thought he was going to do.

 

[Rur0ni]

Just got back from watching the fight and I have to say this was one of the most entertaining cards ever. I think that Sonnen proved that Silva has some serious wholes in his game but overall you have to give props to Silva on the win. He was continuously rocked in the face by Sonnen and still found a way to win. You have to give you props to him for that. There are so many fighters that would not have been able to last.

Silva has a chin, combined with Sonnen's less than devastating strikes. It's not unsurprising he could weather the storm on his back for 5 rounds. He showed some good raw strength attempting to get up I think in the 3rd round. If he can stuff the takedowns of Sonnen in a rematch he'll finish him in the first or second round.

5 rounds is a long time to put on that kind of pressure if you don't outclass your opponent (such as GSP did to Hardy). Gives me doubts about Sonnen's ability to win a rematch if anything at all has woken up in Anderson. But, Sonnen may grind through the flashy striking and get Silva on the ground again and we'll have a repeat, with a sub finish by Silva or decision by Sonnen.

Immediate rematch? If Penn can have one, maybe so. Unfair to Belfort though. Sonnen could fight whoever is next, but there is no one as far as I know, Okami and Marquardt he already beat convincingly.

Looking forward to the next event. I think Penn is gonna bring the goods.

 

[Salazar]

When I ran outside, I sprained both ankles.

You could spend a lifetime and not recreate that feat of clumsiness.

 

[Plywood]

Did anyone else catch Rogan's comment about Nelson's stomach fat is like wearing 20 sweaters? :lol

 

[abstract alien]

That was fucking impressive on both parts. The amount of ferocity shown by Sonnen against a dominant champion, followed by a classic example of maintaining composure under pressure from Silva was nothing short of amazing.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Man. Fuck. That fight was like beating off to some awesome porno with a super hot woman in it and then right when you're about to blow your load, she stands up and you see a dick hanging down. Fuck. So anticlimactic. And what's worse is I knew the dick was coming. I was sitting there the entire 5th round just waiting for Sonnen to somehow blow it. He must feel terrible, he was so close and he utterly dominated that fight. Would love to see a rematch.

 

[Shaheed79]

I withstood a loudmouth's chiirps for FOUR ROUNDS, then ran that motherfucker into the ground when Siilva got the win.

When I ran outside, I sprained both ankles. Who the fuck is karma supposed to be punishing here?

Everyone today. That fight was CURSED! Son of a TIT!

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

I withstood a loudmouth's chiirps for FOUR ROUNDS, then ran that motherfucker into the ground when Siilva got the win.

When I ran outside, I sprained both ankles. Who the fuck is karma supposed to be punishing here?

:lol

 

[Zeliard]

It was a close fight, closest Anderson has had in a long time and that warrants a rematch. I did not see Penn/Edgar as being controversial but more of it being just a razor close fight.

There was a bit of controversy regarding that decision, especially after the metric stats showed that Penn had landed more shots. Not nearly as much controversy as Shogun/Machida, but it was there, and it's why the rematch was made.

I think Belfort deserves his shot before Sonnen gets a rematch. If nothing else, do Belfort/Sonnen and the winner gets Silva. Belfort's injury screwed things up but now both he and Silva are free, and it isn't really fair to Belfort to keep him on the sidelines when he's now healthy.

 

[NinjaCodah]

Man. Fuck. That fight was like beating off to some awesome porno with a super hot woman in it and then right when you're about to blow your load, she stands up and you see a dick hanging down. Fuck. So anticlimactic. And what's worse is I knew the dick was coming. I was sitting there the entire 5th round just waiting for Sonnen to somehow blow it. He must feel terrible, he was so close and he utterly dominated that fight. Would love to see a rematch.

LOL! Couldn't agree more! I must have repeated "watch out for that submission Chael" over 20 times in the last 3 rounds.

 

[Biff]

And what's worse is I knew the dick was coming. I was sitting there the entire 5th round just waiting for Sonnen to somehow blow it. He must feel terrible, he was so close and he utterly dominated that fight. Would love to see a rematch.

In Sonnen's defence, he didn't blow it. Silva was positioning himself for the triangle even at the end of round 4 and most of round 5.

Silva was luring Sonnen into a false sense of security. He was waiting to time his attempt, and like a true BJJ black belt, he was successful.

 

[RiccochetJ]

That was fucking impressive on both parts. The amount of ferocity shown by Sonnen against a dominant champion, followed by a classic example of maintaining composure under pressure from Silva was nothing short of amazing.

You and your accurate and intelligent analysis of the fight... GTFO. Gaf is arguing!

 

[Zeliard]

After a fight like this, I can see why Silva fans wouldn't want to see another fight...

No, I just don't want it to be his next fight, because Vitor Belfort is the next contender.

 

[Plywood]

I withstood a loudmouth's chiirps for FOUR ROUNDS, then ran that motherfucker into the ground when Siilva got the win.

When I ran outside, I sprained both ankles. Who the fuck is karma supposed to be punishing here?

Awesome sto-

Man. Fuck. That fight was like beating off to some awesome porno with a super hot woman in it and then right when you're about to blow your load, she stands up and you see a dick hanging down. Fuck. So anticlimactic. And what's worse is I knew the dick was coming. I was sitting there the entire 5th round just waiting for Sonnen to somehow blow it. He must feel terrible, he was so close and he utterly dominated that fight. Would love to see a rematch.

 

[RiccochetJ]

Silva was luring Sonnen into a false sense of security. He was waiting to time his attempt, and like a true BJJ black belt, he was successful.

No, he was trying to not be hit and his extensive training let him know that there was an opening for a triangle. Don't over think it. Great training and great reaction, definitely a champion even though I wanted him to lose.

 

[-tetsuo-]

I withstood a loudmouth's chiirps for FOUR ROUNDS, then ran that motherfucker into the ground when Siilva got the win.

When I ran outside, I sprained both ankles. Who the fuck is karma supposed to be punishing here?

How do you even do this :lol

 

[Zeke]

In Sonnen's defence, he didn't blow it. Silva was positioning himself for the triangle even at the end of round 4 and most of round 5.

Silva was luring Sonnen into a false sense of security. He was waiting to time his attempt, and like a true BJJ black belt, he was successful.

this is what I fucking love about BJJ

 

[y2dvd]

Great card. Nelson and Silva got a damn chin!

 

[Biff]

No, he was trying to not be hit and his extensive training let him know that there was an opening for a triangle. Don't over think it. Great training and great reaction, definitely a champion even though I wanted him to lose.

I watched him reposition his hips and casually work his right foot onto Sonnen's left hip while keep his left leg wrapped around Sonnen.

It was planned. Jiu-jitsu 101.

Spoiler

I may only have 10 months of BJJ experience, but I can still spot a set-up when it's happening

 

[samus i am]

If there was a rematch what could Sonnen do any better? It seems to me like he gave absolutely 100% and still came up short. On the other hand, if Silva improves his take down defense I think he could make short work of Sonnen.

 

[Arde5643]

Too many people, fans or professionals alike, underestimate Silva's BJJ.

 

[Zeliard]

He almost caught Sonnen a few times. Sonnen always leaves his head hanging free and unprotected when he's in his opponent's guard.

I wish Silva had ended it with that early unorthodox kimura. That was badass.

 

[NinjaCodah]

There was a bit of controversy regarding that decision, especially after the metric stats showed that Penn had landed more shots. Not nearly as much controversy as Shogun/Machida, but it was there, and it's why the rematch was made.

I think Belfort deserves his shot before Sonnen gets a rematch. If nothing else, do Belfort/Sonnen and the winner gets Silva. Belfort's injury screwed things up but now both he and Silva are free.

The thing is, everybody agrees that 9 out of 10 times Penn would destroy Edgar, and that Penn didn't seem himself that night, and that on top of that it was a close decision. Even the odds for Penn/Edgar2 are the same they were for the first fight. You wouldn't be able to say the same for a rematch between Anderson and Sonnen. Sonnen did more damage in that single fight than anybody silva fought in the UFC did combined. He was on his way to an easy victory, and if they fight again the odds will be a lot closer. That submission from Anderson doesn't undo the beating he received tonight.

 

[RiccochetJ]

I watched him reposition his hips and casually work his right foot onto Sonnen's left hip while keep his left leg wrapped around Sonnen.

It was planned. Jiu-jitsu 101.

Spoiler

I may only have 10 months of BJJ experience, but I can still spot a set-up when it's happening

Yes, and you should have seen him doing that for the first 4 rounds as well. It just didn't work as well. It was a split second of opportunity and Silva capitalized on it.

 

[Zeliard]

The thing is, everybody agrees that 9 out of 10 times Penn would destroy Edgar, and that Penn didn't seem himself that night, and that on top of that it was a close decision. Even the odds for Penn/Edgar2 are the same they were for the first fight. You wouldn't be able to say the same for a rematch between Anderson and Sonnen. Sonnen did more damage in that single fight than anybody silva fought in the UFC did combined. He was on his way to an easy victory, and if they fight again the odds will be a lot closer. That submission from Anderson doesn't undo the beating he received tonight.

I don't disagree with any of that. Literally my only problem with a Sonnen/Silva rematch is that I think Belfort deserves the shot first. He's been waiting in the wings, and there wasn't some fuck-up of a decision tonight that greatly demands an instant Silva/Sonnen rematch, so I think it should go to Belfort first.

If you have Sonnen/Silva II next, then who is Belfort supposed to fight? He's been specifically waiting for Anderson Silva. I'd have no issue with an instant Sonnen rematch if there wasn't another immediate contender for Silva, but there is.

 

[RiccochetJ]

If there was a rematch what could Sonnen do any better? It seems to me like he gave absolutely 100% and still came up short. On the other hand, if Silva improves his take down defense I think he could make short work of Sonnen.

Oh for FFS. RUA! How do you go from a decision to a first round knock out? Training! If he has the right coaches, it can happen! Or alternatively, Silva will learn from his mistakes and he will knock out Sonnen within the first 30 seconds!

Silva now knows he can be beat. Handily. He has to adapt!

 

[Shaheed79]

Man. Fuck. That fight was like beating off to some awesome porno with a super hot woman in it and then right when you're about to blow your load, she stands up and you see a dick hanging down. Fuck. So anticlimactic. And what's worse is I knew the dick was coming. I was sitting there the entire 5th round just waiting for Sonnen to somehow blow it. He must feel terrible, he was so close and he utterly dominated that fight. Would love to see a rematch.

You don't know the half of it buddy.

Lesson learned. Never bet on anything even a supposed "tip" for a "sure thing". I feel like Silva is pullin a Bruce Willis in Pulp Fiction and getting the heck out of dodge.

 

[Buckethead]

It all comes down to if Silva needs time out for that rib.

Dana White and crew isn't waiting a year for that rematch money.

 

[RiccochetJ]

It all comes down to if Silva needs time out for that rib.

Dana White and crew isn't waiting a year for that rematch money.

Well if it comes down to that, Belfort and Sonnen will be facing each other.

 

[NinjaCodah]

I don't disagree with any of that. Literally my only problem with a Sonnen/Silva rematch is that I think Belfort deserves the shot first. He's been waiting in the wings, and there wasn't some fuck-up of a decision tonight that greatly demands an instant Silva/Sonnen rematch, so I think it should go to Belfort first.

If you have Sonnen/Silva II next, then who is Belfort supposed to fight? He's been specifically waiting for Anderson Silva. I'd have no issue with an instant Sonnen rematch if there wasn't another immediate contender for Silva, but there is.

Well, you just said it: Belfort has been waiting for his shot. He hasn't fought anybody at middleweight yet. Unless Sonnen is injured or something, I find it hard to not give the fans another exciting fight like the one we just had. Strike the iron while it's hot, keep this going.

Belfort could fight Maia, Marquardt, Okami. I think Cote is injured, so is Belcher.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

In Sonnen's defence, he didn't blow it. Silva was positioning himself for the triangle even at the end of round 4 and most of round 5.

Silva was luring Sonnen into a false sense of security. He was waiting to time his attempt, and like a true BJJ black belt, he was successful.

He dominated the first 4 rounds of a 5 round title fight. He was careless in the way he was attacking and paid for it. Whether or not he was lured into whatever or Silva just capitalized on a big mistake, Sonnen only had a couple minutes left. If he doesn't leave himself so wide open for a submission then he's the new champ. But he blew it. Not trying to take anything away from Silva, he was getting beat, he had a shot and he took it. But Sonnen shouldn't have been fighting so careless.