has anyone successfully landed a spinning punch like that?
UFC 148 |OT| Shattering the myth that is Anderson Silva - 7.7.2012
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has anyone successfully landed a spinning punch like that?
Yep, there have been some great KOs with them and they can turn momentum but when you over commit....
Pristine_Condition
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This is absolutely true.
The worst is the after fight interviews. UFC always asks the question "who do you want to fight next?"
They don't ask that question for their health, dummy. They want you to have a clue and mention a few top names so people will give a shit about your next fight and you can make money.
Instead, you get the lame "I'll fight whoever..."
Well, shit, if you don't care, why should the casual fan at home?
I agree with you, and I would love to see Andy retiring in a fight against Bones.
Bones would win, not because of superior technique, I honestly believe Anderson is better in that regard. He would win out of sheer physical superiority. Bones right now is way better in that regard than Andy ever was IMO.
And while I do think Andy has better technique now, Bones is still really young and has a lot of time to improve even more, so in the future he can top Andy on that too. He seems like a fast learner.
Dude is truly blessed, he has the perfect physic for a fighter and the brains to go with that.
ryutaro's mama
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Yeah, like I said, Chael is on the extreme end (in terms of trash talk) but it doesn't even need to be based around that.
Just become marketable outside your skillset in the octagon.
And hell yes, the build up/hype is what got me to buy the PPV without much consideration.
I WANTED TO SEE HOW IT WOULD END.
The UFC needs to do a better job of promoting these fights/fighter and whatnot to the non-insiders, imo.
Just make me care one way or the other.
Cheer or Jeer.
I had my head down in the computer for every single one of those undercard matches on FX.
THAT'S BAD.
Didn't Jon Jones destroy Bader with that?
Yeah. I'm glad I got to see Sonnen's ass kicked but that was dirty Silva. He was doing it while the camera is facing straight at him, zoomed in lol
Bones goes for the spinning elbow more than the fist if I am not mistaken, he has nasty elbows.
Pristine_Condition
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Absolutely.
Some of the best KOs in history.
You guys really need some Shonie Carter vids.
I honestly cannot believe Chad Mendes did not call out management for having him face Candy Mckenzie especially considering Joe Rogan and Goldberg talked about how he was arguably the number #2 featherweight.
There is no upside to saying I'll fight whoever joe Silva puts in front of me.
It is the GSP special although GSP likes to spit water on himself also to mix with it from the corner.
It is honestly a very much used tactic by many fighters and this is the first time I am seen it actually cracked down on officially before the bell.
Sarcastic Response
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The official came and wiped him off before the fight even began. Are you saying they applied more during the break after Round 1? lol
Getting crushed is the best thing to happen to Mckenzie, hopefully he will realize this is not for him.
John Makdessi knocked Kyle Watson out cold with one not too long ago.
Ninja Scooter
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I agree with you that he is blessed, but he hasn't tested the stand of time. He has essentially only fought 4 top fighters. True champions need to be tested, like Silva in Sonnen vs Silva I.
GSP is unique out of the 3 PFP as he got tested early in his championship before he became a dominant champion.
Andy acknowledged in TV that Sonnen had a good first round, and that he have been training takedowns his whole life, but he was prepared to be under him.
Yep it's like all these guys think they can get over on their in ring(octagon?) performance alone.
Like if UFC is gonna have so many PPVs at least try to make some feuds otherwise we're just watching Cena vs Cena saying I respect the hell out of ya and I don't care who I fight next and I'm here for the UFC universe!
Latvian Hitman
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Yeah- everyone keeps talking about the knee, but the shorts grab (pictured several posts above *edit*- on previous page) was what I was kind of taken aback by. That started when they were tied up in the fence and Chael dropped for a double. Anderson clearly grabs the waistband of Chael's shorts and literally pulls him back up with his shorts. The whole time he's using his left hand, and the ref is on the opposite side where he couldn't see it.
Blatant cheating or salty veteran move? You decide.
As for the knee- that's a non issue. Clearly to the chest/sternum. It's a bad rule anyway, one that should never have been implemented. Knees to the head of a downed opponent are no more dangerous than knees to the head from the Thai plum, and they're certainly no more dangerous than repeated elbows to the temple from full mount. It's just a bad rule- promotes stalling and sitting on one's ass after a failed shot or scramble, and it robs us of exciting opportunities for action on the ground with no benefit of added fighter safety. In fact, you could make the case that Chael sat on his butt in the fence after missing with that backfist because he thought he was protected by this very rule. Bad move on his part. And it's a bad rule.
Blatant cheating or salty veteran move? You decide.
As for the knee- that's a non issue. Clearly to the chest/sternum. It's a bad rule anyway, one that should never have been implemented. Knees to the head of a downed opponent are no more dangerous than knees to the head from the Thai plum, and they're certainly no more dangerous than repeated elbows to the temple from full mount. It's just a bad rule- promotes stalling and sitting on one's ass after a failed shot or scramble, and it robs us of exciting opportunities for action on the ground with no benefit of added fighter safety. In fact, you could make the case that Chael sat on his butt in the fence after missing with that backfist because he thought he was protected by this very rule. Bad move on his part. And it's a bad rule.
BobTheFork
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The card wasn't great.
Sonnen is an idiot for trying that spin.
What's the controversy? I just got home. That knee was right to the center of the chest. Chael didn't have any complaints this time, neither did the ref.
Sonnen is an idiot for trying that spin.
What's the controversy? I just got home. That knee was right to the center of the chest. Chael didn't have any complaints this time, neither did the ref.
ryutaro's mama
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NASCAR drivers have more media personality than most of these guys.
How does that happen?
Also, and this is where I'll give Chael some props: not everybody can talk shit like he does. He got overbearing and repetitive fairly quickly to me but few fighters have his aptitude for smack-talk and it would be downright painful and pitiful to see a lot of these other guys attempt something similar.
Yeah man, I wonder who is going to be Bones version of Chael Sonnen...he needs one! Lol!
I can't see no one getting close to him right now. It would be really great to see him really work for a win. He makes everyone looks so easy.
Machida had a good first round against him and then was just utterly destroyed.
Yeah, they caught him. It had no affect on the fight but to think da gawd silva would try and resort to that makes me lose a little respect for him.
BobTheFork
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True champions need to be tested? Yeah I guess, but who is he supposed to fight other than the people they throw at him? He has beaten everyone that's come at him and if those opponents aren't good enough, that's Dana's problem because it means he doesn't have the roster.
Silva grabbed Sonnen's shorts for a while. Silva got a warn because of that. Outside that, nothing, just the same whine you'll get after the fight from the losers. =)
ryutaro's mama
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What channel (on DirecTV) is the presser on?
:Lol. Something's wrong Nascar guys know how to build up their races and actually have some feuds compared to UFC guys.
He may be GOAT, but for someone who seemed to be trying to speak about how important the sport was at the end there, he sure attempted to employ dirty tactics. From bumping Sonnen, to shoulder checking, to greasing, to short grabbing and the questionable knee. The fact is that Anderson da Silva just shot himself in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about MMA culture (I'm an expert since Pride), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in wrestling where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in MMA, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the casual MMA public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase PPV's for either fighter, nor will they purchase any of UFC's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Silva has alienated an entire market with this move.
Anderson, publicly apologize and end your championship reign or you can kiss your business goodbye.
Well I personally think Silva and GSP could beat him. They have the experience to win those long matches. It would most likely be a boring match.
I personally think Bones is amazing but just slightly overrated due to just looking so dynamic and exciting in the match. Some of those boring matches GSP and Silva have had in the past, are true examples of how champions stay champions. I could see someone like Bones get frustrated. They learn your game plan during the first round, then throw you off your game plan and wait for a mistake.
Also the veteran "win at any option" techniques like grabbing shorts, grabbing the cage, greasing if possible, etc is another advantage to Silva and GSP.
An exciting champion <> the best champion.
Ninja Scooter
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What does Pro Wrestling have to do with MMA?
Link to what was said already?
Hogan's title defenses were all shoots, brother.
he could be a porn star pretty easily
That Singer Guy...
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damn I did this before, it never gets old lol
ryutaro's mama
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That's my point, Nelo.
That's why when someone says, "Good." when I say I have no further hooks into the sport as a casual and may "retire", I honestly don't get that reaction.
I'm sure the UFC would like to grow the brand, not have it trend the same numbers.
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BobTheFork
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Pretty much what I though. I heard the warning about the shorts but didn't really see it happen.
edit: damn you Ply, I was going to seriously respond before I read that again.
Yeah I know. That's why it's incredible that UFC has not gotten anyone to at least try build up their fights. Everyone besides Chael seems to follow the John Cena style of promos and well no one gives a damn to see that. Also yeah I honestly would not have cared about this card at all if it weren't for Chael building up the feud.
Also what's this about Tito wanting to be a movie star? First he's taking the Rock's gimmick now he wants to follow his path into movies? :lol.
He wants to give him a UFC sponsorship.
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