RBelong2Us
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Uhhh this is the sport they chose to compete in.
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UFC 193 OT: Ronda Rousey vs Holly Holm / First PPV headlined by 2 womens Title Fights
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Uhhh this is the sport they chose to compete in.
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Carnby
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Fake Outrage: The Post.
Ugh, she is a fighter. She knows she is going to get hit often and hard and might even get hurt. That is what they do and what they signed up for.
This is just ignorant.
Im not even remotely going there. I have had to rethink it no doubt but I dont know that this fight proves May would win. Holm both stuffed a throw and escaped a troubling ground position from Ronda. Those are MMA skills not boxing. Would Floyd do the same? I mean maybe, also maybe not.
Holm trained with this fucking monster every day for this fight
Comparing Mayweather and Holms skill set is not a like for like comparison
How hard to do think Floyd can punch, compared to Holm? Do you think his footwork is better? Is he more evasive? Can he afford as good of training partners as Holm?
I love MMA but MMA fans have some crazy ideas. 3 months of training, Floyd punches a hole in Rousey inside of two minutes. Which isn't even a knock on her. She's a fantastic grappler. Just, some matchups are too large of a gap.
That's kind of the fucking point, man. It's a combat sport.
Can Crusher
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A fighter.
Oh come on now.
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CassidyIzABeast
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entremet
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It's a sport she chose it. It's not a street fight.
Moreover, you're being condescending toward women if you feel they're delicate little flowers that can't handle losing in their sport of choice.
Upsets happen. And you will get reactions like this when you've built a personality on being arrogant and invincible.
Sibersk Esto
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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Can Crusher
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Bobby Roberts
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Oh goddammit
Puck Beaverton
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Hilarious post that I hope is sincere.
Smug Pepe, John Wall, Floyd, Rousey Rondy, all 2gether
Tyson was such a fucking beast back in those days and Mayweather just made it look so damn pretty at times.
Excellente
Damn.
Obliterator
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I mean I'm not going to tell you your wrong. You could be 100% correct. And this fight clearly shows Floyd would have a legit chance of destroying her instantly.
I'm just saying seeing Holms performance isnt instant proof Floyd could do the same thing. He is an infinitely superior boxer to Rousey.
But boxing alone isn't what won Holm the fight. It was both takedown defense and BJJ defense as well. She hasn't trained months in MMA she has trained for years in it in the same camp as the GOAT MMA athlete.
Its just not something I would stake a claim on either way on a personal level.
Phat Michael
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I really don't think people realise how good Mayweather really is...
mehrmantrout
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Fucking hell :d
Rousey (as good as she can be) beating Mayweather was always a ridiculous notion. I'm not sure how many people were actually serious about it.
Phat Michael
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She's knocked out by Floyd inside a minute. He's a counter striker, literally the best in the world. She rushes forward chin up, hands down and is one of the worst strikers in all divisions. What do you really think will happen?
You can tell it's Yamcha because of the scars and the resemblance to Rousey.
Oh lawd!
Meccanical
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Indeed, I'm not in the camp that thinks he's unbeatable, but the man has earned all his W's.
Just watching the full fight now (thanks, Internet!), I was expecting something different. (Full disclosure: I'm much more of a boxing guy than an MMA fan)
Based on the gifs and the chatter and the end result, I expected to see a wild Rousey from the outset. Instead, I thought in the first minute she was cautious and trying to find her spot to grapple -- it seemed as though she was fighting with more respect for Holm than she has had for other opponents. It seems like the caution was warranted, because Holm fought a smart defensive fight and her punches are accurate, fast and strong.
It reminds me a bit of Tyson-Holyfield II in that you got a sense at a certain point she realized Gameplan 1 wasn't going to win the fight. But instead of chewing off Holm's ear, she got pushed harder, got more reckless and ultimately ate that kick to the head.
Certainly, any given day if Rousey could get Holm on the ground properly, she could win this matchup... but I think what happened last night was pretty clearly not some sort of fluke.
Based on the gifs and the chatter and the end result, I expected to see a wild Rousey from the outset. Instead, I thought in the first minute she was cautious and trying to find her spot to grapple -- it seemed as though she was fighting with more respect for Holm than she has had for other opponents. It seems like the caution was warranted, because Holm fought a smart defensive fight and her punches are accurate, fast and strong.
It reminds me a bit of Tyson-Holyfield II in that you got a sense at a certain point she realized Gameplan 1 wasn't going to win the fight. But instead of chewing off Holm's ear, she got pushed harder, got more reckless and ultimately ate that kick to the head.
Certainly, any given day if Rousey could get Holm on the ground properly, she could win this matchup... but I think what happened last night was pretty clearly not some sort of fluke.
Squalor stop plz
A bunch of bullshit media hype that built her up into something that she is not nor ever will be. Part of the problem is that she actually started believing all of that noise. The harder they fall, aye?
Lol
Obliterator
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Most likely exactly what you stated tbh. I never said otherwise in this thread
I'm saying using Holm as definitive proof is also a mistake. They do no have the same skill set. Holm is an MMA fighter Floyd is not. Just because Holm can stuff a throw and prevent an armbar does not mean Floyd can as well.
If I was to bet cash money it would go to May
Meccanical
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Aaronology
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Oh jeez. No mercy.
nicoga3000
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I don't follow UFC at all. Like zero. However, Ronda has been on a bunch of shows talking about how she's hot shit and is the best thing ever. From the looks of it, she got it handed to her last night.
Without having to read this entire thread, can someone explain what happened? Was she simply not as good as she said she was or something?
Without having to read this entire thread, can someone explain what happened? Was she simply not as good as she said she was or something?
Anderson beat himself the first time though. That was pure hubris against a much younger, fitter fighter.
The rematch was just more of the same of old man vs up and coming young'un. He should've retired long before Weidman came around. Dude is 40 now and he dominated 7 years (9 if you discount the DQ).
Prime Silva would've destroyed Weidman in the first round. Hell, if they had fought just a few years earlier he would've demolished him.
Victim of WADA testing or The Dolce Diet, friends?
Heel, asking questions like any patriotic American should.
Sibersk Esto
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She tried to out box a boxer when her specialty is grappling and paid the price for it. Today's lesson is that fighting styles matter.
She started believing her own hype enough to think she could outbox a pro boxer and got her ass beat for it.
Meccanical
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Pretty much, she tried to box a world class boxer and got exposed.
Her corner basically failed her big time.
Holm took her to the woodshed with a superior striking game. Rousey was gassed by the end of the first round and wiffed badly on strike that pretty much took all the air out of her and was then subsequently 2 pieced and straight kicked for the KO.
Obliterator
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Victim of WADA testing or The Dolce Diet, friends?
Yeah she certainly looked physically different in this fight.
blankempathy
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Thats a life lesson actually. When in doubt go with what you know.
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