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[Darkman M]

I find it funny the people that keep talking about Mayweather... this is the problem with UFC and Dana White. He doesn't actually give a fuck about his fighters. It's about entertainment and money. I think he pushes fighters to do stupid shit against their best interest.

If Rousey (apparently she knew exactly how she'd go down (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2015/11/15/ronda-rousey-ufc-ko/75825926/) played it like Mayweather she could have just let the fight come to her. She's the champ, decisions would go her way. Instead she attacks the girl knowing she's going to get frustrated and knowing she could get "kicked in the head"

Weird, stupid, and who the fuck is to blame for it? Mayweather never did something like that.

What? Mayweather has fought world class talent his whole career. I'm still not sure why this concept is so hard to grasp.

 

[DMczaf]

That's not even the full thing.

(link goes to facebook post)

the comments...hahaha

 

[Chamber]

Well one things for sure the rematch will do gangbusters

Holm-Ronda is going to be fucking HUGE

The only comparable situation I can think of (thorough domination of a champion resulting in an undeserved rematch) is Velasquez/Dos Santos 3 which did significantly less business than their 2nd fight.

I think Holm/Rousey 2 does pretty well but this fight probably did 800-900k and I'm not sure a rematch does any better given the manner in which Ronda lost.

 

[Heavy_D206]

What? Mayweather has fought world class talent his whole career. I'm still not sure why this concept is so hard to grasp.

Dude, he fought Pac-Man 5 years past his prime. That was arguably one of the worst boxing matches ever.

 

[Skeyser]

Dude, he fought Pac-Man 5 years past his prime. That was arguably one of the worst boxing matches ever.

You must not watch a lot of boxing

 

[Darkman M]

Dude, he fought Pac-Man 5 years past his prime. That was arguably one of the worst boxing matches ever.

A past prime pac is still an all world fighter.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

The only comparable situation I can think of (thorough domination of a champion resulting in an undeserved rematch) is Velasquez/Dos Santos 3 which did significantly less business than their 2nd fight.

I think Holm/Rousey 2 does pretty well but this fight probably did 800-900k and I'm not sure a rematch does any better given the manner in which Ronda lost.

Yeah. Dana should really think about feeding Ronda a can as a warmup, maybe for free on one of their Fox shows, to try and build some of her hype back up. It's not like there is a shortage of them in that division.

 

[Principate]

The only comparable situation I can think of (thorough domination of a champion resulting in an undeserved rematch) is Velasquez/Dos Santos 3 which did significantly less business than their 2nd fight.

I think Holm/Rousey 2 does pretty well but this fight probably did 800-900k and I'm not sure a rematch does any better given the manner in which Ronda lost.

I think precisely becuae of the manner is wy it'll do better. I personally don't give a fuck about MMA and I'm interested in seeing the rematch and I doubt I'm alone. The advertisements write themselves.

 

[Heavy_D206]

You must not watch a lot of boxing

I've been watching since Tyson bit off Holyfield's ear

I think the recent De La Hoya letter about Mayweather was spot-on.

 

[SwolBro]

What? Mayweather has fought world class talent his whole career. I'm still not sure why this concept is so hard to grasp.

Im talking about the fact that mayweather never diverted from his game plan. He never exposed himself. Fuck, if we're talking honestly here the guy was smart in picking his fights, never scheduling fights too early.

Look at what Ronda did. She fought what? 3-4 months after her last fight? After doing all the movies and publicity and all this other shit. Then she gives an interview to Fallon about how she could lose to Holms, and goes and loses like that.

You don't find that a bit fucking odd? My question is why, why did she do this. Is it the "yes men" around her? did she believe in her own invincibility ?

seems like no one stepped in and told her to focus

 

[psynergylover]

HOLY-

I'm about to pull a cartman!!!!

 

[Darkman M]

Im talking about the fact that mayweather never diverted from his game plan. He never exposed himself. Fuck, if we're talking honestly here the guy was smart in picking his fights, never scheduling fights too early.

Look at what Ronda did. She fought what? 3-4 months after her last fight? After doing all the movies and publicity and all this other shit. Then she gives an interview to Fallon about how she could lose to Holms, and goes and loses like that.

You don't find that a bit fucking odd? My question is why, why did she do this. Is it the "yes men" around her? did she believe in her own invincibility ?

seems like no one stepped in and told her to focus

gotcha read your post wrong.

 

[Chamber]

I think precisely becuae of the manner is wy it'll do better. I personally don't give a fuck about MMA and I'm interested in seeing the rematch and I doubt I'm alone. The advertisements write themselves.

Well we already know the UFC is going to frame Holly's win as a fluke. I just want to see how many are willing to buy that.

 

[JasonUresti]

Dude, he fought Pac-Man 5 years past his prime. That was arguably one of the worst boxing matches ever.

Mayweather is older than Manny. Floyd isnt in his prime either.

 

[Meccanical]

I've been watching since Tyson bit off Holyfield's ear

I think the recent De La Hoya letter about Mayweather was spot-on.

I just now read his letter.

Goddamn was it the fucking truth, especially the part about how "we've already forgotten" his fights.

 

[Tripolygon]

Mayweather is older than Manny. Floyd isnt in his prime either.

Seriously, i don't know if people who say Manny is passed his prime realise that Floyd is 2 years older than him.

I just now read his letter.

Goddamn was it the fucking truth, especially the part about how "we've already forgotten" his fights.

Yea, go to youtube and you will see them.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I just now read his letter.

Goddamn was it the fucking truth, especially the part about how "we've already forgotten" his fights.

DLH so spot on. Mayweather already forgotten. That's why you're still talking about him in a UFC thread 3 months after he retired.

 

[Meccanical]

DLH so spot on. Mayweather already forgotten. That's why you're still talking about him in a UFC thread 3 months after he retired.

His fights.

Not him. His fights.

 

[DY_nasty]

Seriously, i don't know if people who say Manny is passed his prime realise that Floyd is 2 years older than him.

Floyd hasn't taken anything close to the damage Manny has

people always gloss right over this like it doesn't matter lol

 

[Tripolygon]

Floyd hasn't taken anything close to the damage Manny has

people always gloss right over this like it doesn't matter lol

Yup, Floyd hasn't taken much damage. I'm gonna take a guess and say, because he is masterful at defence.

People always gloss over this like it doesn't matter. Lol

 

[Ninja Scooter]

His fights.

Not him. His fights.

He's a boxer. If he's remembered it's because of his fights. Does he have a Hagler/Hearns on his resume? No. But neither does Oscar. Very few boxers do. That's what makes them so special. Oscar's most memorable fights are the ones he lost.

 

[Lokbob]

Ronda has been talking about retiring for a while. She probably wanted the Cyborg fight for UFC 200 after this and be done.
I think after she gets the belt back from Holy she is out. Curious what she does if she loses the rematch though.

 

[Epsilon-delta]

Seriously, i don't know if people who say Manny is passed his prime realise that Floyd is 2 years older than him.

But you're both wrong though. Context is key here. Just because someone is older, doesn't necessarily mean they are more past their prime.

Pac's style of boxing put him in wars compared to Floyd, thus getting more wear and tear on his body.

Saw your reply

 

[Meccanical]

Yeah, and the fact that he lost means he doesn't run from tough competition.

Same can't be said for Floyd, other wise he would have fought Amir Khan already.

 

[Tesseract]

Ronda has been talking about retiring for a while. She probably wanted the Cyborg fight for UFC 200 after this and be done.
I think after she gets the belt back from Holy she is out. Curious what she does if she loses the rematch though.

she's done, probably gets a science education

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Yeah, and the fact that he lost means he doesn't run from tough competition.

Same can't be said for Floyd, other wise he would have fought Amir Khan already.

You said "tough competition" and "Amir Khan". I'm not seeing the correlation.

Oh wait let me guess if he fought Amir and won handily you would be saying Amir was passed his prime? Or that Floyd ran the whole time, right?


as for Oscar not "running from tough competition", the last 4 rounds of the Trinidad fight would like to have a word with you.

 

[Tekniqs]

and people gloss over the fact Floyd tried making the fight back in 2009/2010.

Also in 2012, but bob arum had a temporary stadium to build and Manny had a cut that would heal in time for JMM but wouldn't heal in time for Floyd.

lol

 

[Darkman M]

Yeah, and the fact that he lost means he doesn't run from tough competition.

Same can't be said for Floyd, other wise he would have fought Amir Khan already.

So Amir Khan is the new boogey man? ok lol

 

[BadAss2961]

Would've been a nice gesture to congratulate the new champ here.

 

[Tekniqs]

Yeah, and the fact that he lost means he doesn't run from tough competition.

Same can't be said for Floyd, other wise he would have fought Amir Khan already.

lol this guy said Amir Khan

 

[Tripolygon]

But you're both wrong though. Context is key here. Just because someone is older, doesn't necessarily mean they are more past their prime.

Pac's style of boxing put him in wars compared to Floyd, thus getting more wear and tear on his body. You can ignore this little fact or keep on stanning.

1. Grow the fuck up, stanning? I don't even like Floyd.

2. You are right, Floyd doesn't like getting punched, no boxer does. That is why he knows how to defend himself.

You can ignore this fact or keep making excuses for why Floyd beat Pac and many boxers.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I do have to say I love this idea that because Oscar lost, he's a tough guy who didn't run from the competition, but because Floyd won all the time, he's a coward who picks and chooses his fights. It has nothing to do with simple fact that Floyd is just simply better than his opponents than Oscar was. Nope. Can't be it. Doesn't fit the narrative.

 

[N.Domixis]

I hope she loses the rematch, it will be glorious.

 

[Boston]

Ronda 10 years after getting knocked out by Holm-

https://twitter.com/FillWerrell/status/666051873825120256

 

[SwolBro]

Would've been a nice gesture to congratulate the new champ here.

probably just a message to her fans, no need to mention the other fighter. i'm sure she's done that already.

 

[Turin]

This thread is truly amazing.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

lol this guy said Amir Khan

***A NEW CHALLENGER APPEARS!!!!***

The man who will put the 1 in 49-1

nevermind.

 

[Epsilon-delta]

1. Grow the fuck up, stanning? I don't even like Floyd.

2. You are right, Floyd doesn't like getting punched, no boxer does. That is why he knows how to defend himself.

You can ignore this fact or keep making excuses for why Floyd beat Pac and many boxers.

And yet you have the nerve to use Floyd's age like it meant something in regards for someone being past their prime?

There is no excuse I used for Pac losing to Floyd because any version of Pac would have lost to him. I was just pointing out your faulty logic.

 

[Basileus777]

That's not even the full thing.

(link goes to facebook post)

To chase a southpaw counter fighter vs cutting off, trying to brawl while circling into her power vs getting into positions where you can use your superior grappling ... The fact that Holly was a southpaw alone totally seemed foreign to Ronda not only in the striking ranges and the proper angles to use but in her basic throw attempts as well.

I didn't even think about the southpaw factor, but it's completely true. And especially embarrassing for her coaches and trainers.

 

[BadAss2961]

probably just a message to her fans, no need to mention the other fighter. i'm sure she's done that already.

I think it's the very first statement she's made since the fight.

 

[Perih Xoph]

Just dropping in real quick to post my thoughts and reflect on the fight. I was too aggressive to begin with and was looking to get that arm bar too quickly. Holly is a boxer and is built for distance fighting. She controlled the pace of the fight and kept me out of my comfort zone. Holly was the better fighter that night and deserved the victory. I have a lot to work on and I'm excited to return to the gym and push myself further than I ever have before. I'll be back, and better than ever.

 

[RoninChaos]

Why does this seem so familiar...

oh yeah

What is that from?

 

[Cipherr]

Dude, he fought Pac-Man 5 years past his prime. That was arguably one of the worst boxing matches ever.

Pac was past his prime yes, but that doesn't make what Darkman said any less true. May did fight world class talent often during his career. You cannot take that from him because you wish he had fought Pac earlier.

 

[Heavy_D206]

Just dropping in real quick to post my thoughts and reflect on the fight. I was too aggressive to begin with and was looking to get that arm bar too quickly. Holly is a boxer and is built for distance fighting. She controlled the pace of the fight and kept me out of my comfort zone. Holly was the better fighter that night and deserved the victory. I have a lot to work on and I'm excited to return to the gym and push myself further than I ever have before. I'll be back, and better than ever.

The Real Rousey wouldn't be that humble haha

 

[Ninja Scooter]

What is that from?

During Linda's concession speech after she spent millions of the McMahon fortune on a failed run for congress, ushering in the PG-era.

 

[industrian]

Curious what she does if she loses the rematch though.

1) Becomes a gatekeeper and goes 2-4 before retiring.
2) Announces she's trying out for the Olympic team but fails to make the grade.
3) Disappears into b-movie superstardom.
4) Trains with a proper MMA gym that isn't built around her, builds a solid win streak, and then hopes the UFC gives her another shot.

 

[Epsilon-delta]

Just dropping in real quick to post my thoughts and reflect on the fight. I was too aggressive to begin with and was looking to get that arm bar too quickly. Holly is a boxer and is built for distance fighting. She controlled the pace of the fight and kept me out of my comfort zone. Holly was the better fighter that night and deserved the victory. I have a lot to work on and I'm excited to return to the gym and push myself further than I ever have before. I'll be back, and better than ever.

Go home and be happy being a contender.

 

[RELIGHT]

Would've been a nice gesture to congratulate the new champ here.

Denial is a river in Egypt.

 

[Tripolygon]

And yet you have the nerve to use Floyd's age like it meant something in regards for someone being past their prime?

There is no excuse I used for Pac losing to Floyd because any version of Pac would have lost to him. I was just pointing out your faulty logic.

Na, there is no fault in my logic. Age plays a role in athletics as well damage, especially Boxing.

I assumed you were one of those fools saying Manny has passed his prime as if Floyd is in his prime, and for that i apologize.

 

[TrumanBurbank]

1) Becomes a gatekeeper and goes 2-4 before retiring.
2) Announces she's trying out for the Olympic team but fails to make the grade.
3) Disappears into b-movie superstardom.
4) Trains with a proper MMA gym that isn't built around her, builds a solid win streak, and then hopes the UFC gives her another shot.

Or 1) retires because she is rich as fuck and has a fuckload of money and doesn't have to do anything ever again