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UFC 193 OT: Ronda Rousey vs Holly Holm / First PPV headlined by 2 womens Title Fights
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I noticed that about 3/4th through the 1st round, she had that face of fear. No mistaking it.
If Ronda won, this thread would even be half as big as it is.
UFC 198 or something should be Rousey vs Cyborg, with the winner getting a title shot against Holm for UFC 200.
Ninja Scooter
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Dana and Joe will feed Rousey a complete can in preparation for the rematch (if there even is a tune up fight).
SketchTheArtist
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Man, look at that face. It says everything. Her mind must be going at a thousand miles per hour.
Hope she bounces back. That rematch could be absolutely amazing.
Hope she bounces back. That rematch could be absolutely amazing.
I want the rematch. Somebody gonna die that night.
Krappadizzle
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Looking forward to it!
Jason's Ultimatum
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more material to work with
Look like a perfect opportunity to photoshop open mouth wolverine onto her face.
That already looks photoshopped.
Napoleonthechimp
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I saw this elsewhere but I thought it perfectly encapsulates Edmond's attitude during the match:
SketchTheArtist
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I saw this elsewhere but I thought it perfectly encapsulates Edmond's attitude during the match:
Yeah, Rogan called him out on it. Instead of giving her tips, he just straight up lied to her and said that everything she did was perfect.
Meccanical
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She needs a new coach, I would be furious if my trainer fed me blatant lies like that.
It's actually kind of impressive what she was able to pull off with such a terrible coach. Basically relying entirely on her judo and also just poor competition. Kind of bums me out all those wasted years though training Targeryan Boxing because I do think she's a fierce competitor (sometimes distastefully so, but eh) and a hard worker but it seems to have mostly been wasted.
Well according to Schaub Rousey only wants yes men around her. It could be Edmond is just afraid of losing his job.
Meccanical
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Well then Edmond needs to nut up then, have a little integrity.
I guess all he cares about is money.
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Paracelsus
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3stwtCmWTA
Ronda doesn't have good footwork and was not trained to take a boxing beating, wasn't expecting that much of a kickboxing beating and the few instances she got she clinched hoping to get a sub, she was just heavily outclinched and even so she doesn't need tips on how to sub someone even at a position disadvantage. When you have little gas (which quickly goes down to zero if you can't take a beating) and your only means of winning is a submission, all you can do is rush at your opponent, guard yourself while taking the obvious hits and hope you can catch her before she knocks you out. Her punching and kicking doesn't reach as far as Holm's, even if you told her "you also move around avoiding her hits" she would still get blown to pieces. It just looked like a total mismatch no matter how you make it sound like.
Maklershed
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Ronda had been undefeated in mma and other than the one Miesha Tate fight had previously never gone past the first round. Time wise her entire career could pretty much fit within one Demetrious Johnson fight. She not only defeated all her opponents but dominated them and did whatever she wanted. Conversely, Holly was hyped up big time before signing to UFC but her fights in the UFC were underwhelming at best. She damn near lost to Raquel Pennington who, not to be mean, is terrible. Also, Holly's striking - which is her bread and butter - looked rudimentary and tentative in her two previous UFC fights. So needless to say, it was somewhat of a surprise that Ronda lost. Holly came out guns a blazing and had a great game plan and just stymied Rousey. Not to mention I think there was a bit of a Silva/Weidman thing going on here where Rousey already had the win counted and was ready to take a break or go to movies. I dont think she expected a challenge and probably didn't prepare for this as well as she could of. Plus she had a lot of distractions going in - particularly revolving around her coach.
We get it and we like it.
Vigilant Walrus
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Dana had a good point about Edmond, - The strategy had worked in all of Rondas fights so far. Think about it. Her gameplan is always pure barrage, use her Judo and get a sub.
I'm not defending the guy, but I think he cares about Ronda. A lot.
There has been many grapplers who have not been salvageable by striking. And many striking specialists who just can't hang with the best sub defense. These upsets happen from to time and they always spawn a "is wrestling useless?", "is grappling more important than striking?" < It's always this back and forth between the styles, and in this fight Rondas brow was not doing it.
It reminds me of Wanderlei. Wanderlei was one of those guys who also just barraged in like a fucking demon. And not until he faced Mark Hunt after a long dominating spree in Pride were he took outrageous amount of punishment did he lose his spark.
It's possible Rondas confidence will never recover from this. I think she needs to take a long break and try to re-examine herself. Fedor, her big idol always championed that small dogs bark the loudest.
At the same time its weird seeing people who have a hard-on for Connor feel vindication by her smacktalk. So many UFC fighters talk so much shit to heighten the drama. It's not needed IMO. Unless you are Chael Sonnen.
I'm not defending the guy, but I think he cares about Ronda. A lot.
There has been many grapplers who have not been salvageable by striking. And many striking specialists who just can't hang with the best sub defense. These upsets happen from to time and they always spawn a "is wrestling useless?", "is grappling more important than striking?" < It's always this back and forth between the styles, and in this fight Rondas brow was not doing it.
It reminds me of Wanderlei. Wanderlei was one of those guys who also just barraged in like a fucking demon. And not until he faced Mark Hunt after a long dominating spree in Pride were he took outrageous amount of punishment did he lose his spark.
It's possible Rondas confidence will never recover from this. I think she needs to take a long break and try to re-examine herself. Fedor, her big idol always championed that small dogs bark the loudest.
At the same time its weird seeing people who have a hard-on for Connor feel vindication by her smacktalk. So many UFC fighters talk so much shit to heighten the drama. It's not needed IMO. Unless you are Chael Sonnen.
Maklershed
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Her past fights have gone a) grab/clinch b) take-down c) armbar. This time around it looked like she was testing her boxing but was getting schooled on the feet, then got desperate but it was too late and she was too tired/damaged to grapple effectively.
I hope, for the rematch, they cut a new promo where old Ronda invents a time machine to bring young Ronda to see present day Ronda get tuned and then returns to the past to start boxing and then in the rematch Ronda does in fact outbox Holly and it turns out young Ronda is in the stands watching all along. Shivers.
Meccanical
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I would like to believe Ronda is so arrogant she probably wouldn't even follow advice coming from herself.
Baldwin_the_First
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I've heard a few stories about how he's a asshole and how he's full of himself to people who come see him or recognize him in Montreal. I mean, it's anecdotal, but what isn't when you hear shit about people? "a fucking prick" was actually kind compared to what I've heard lol.
Having a bad day isn't a good excuse.
Anyway, who gives a shit. What happens behind the screen might as well not exist huh. Guy knows his stuff and that's what he's there for, I respect him as a coach and if I were to know him more in the futur I might respect him as a person too, but it ain't the case right now, so I judge from what I hear from people I trust.
CassidyIzABeast
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"Oh, I don't know," Mayweather said when asked about Rousey's loss in Australia. "I don't speak on nobody's situation."
"Just in boxing period, contact sports period, you win some, you lose some," Mayweather said Sunday at Staples Center, where he watched a Los Angeles Lakers-Detroit Pistons NBA game. "I don't know about this fight, I just know that you win some and you lose some. It basically comes with the territory."
http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/2015/11/floyd_mayweather_on_ronda_rous.html
Subtle slander Floyd.
"Just in boxing period, contact sports period, you win some, you lose some," Mayweather said Sunday at Staples Center, where he watched a Los Angeles Lakers-Detroit Pistons NBA game. "I don't know about this fight, I just know that you win some and you lose some. It basically comes with the territory."
http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/2015/11/floyd_mayweather_on_ronda_rous.html
Subtle slander Floyd.
RedAssedApe
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implication being...you win some you lose some except if you're floyd 8)
Obliterator
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Oh yeah especially if its on UFC 200. The rematch will be fucking GIANT
GreatestHits
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dat TKO %...
edit: OH MY GOD this thread. it's got gifs and everything... will read
edit: OH MY GOD this thread. it's got gifs and everything... will read
CassidyIzABeast
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Ring continues to look awful.
See Ronda? That's how you do it. You ain't on his trolling level.
Ring continues to look awful.
Well, when you say it like THAT, of course they look silly.
That cover was so embarrassing...
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Ring continues to look awful.
So many cover worthy women got passed up for Ring covers. Including Laila Ali, Ann Wolf, Leatita Robinson, Vonda Ward, Natascha Ragosina, Giselle Salandy - the list goes on and on.
That looks to me more like she had no chances. Holm did her homework and effectively stopped Rousey from playing her game.
Piku_Ringo
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Move of the night.
Move of the night.
Style points count right? I hope in the rematch we get more of the spinneroo dance. How majestic.
Piku_Ringo
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Edmond learned his striking techniques watching Rocky, yall dont understand Ronda totally nailed that move where Rocky flails face first into the ropes missing apollo completely.
audio/video of Rousey just after the K.O.
SketchTheArtist
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Can't remember where, but I heard she had a broken jaw. Is it true?
Ronda got fucked up.
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Unbound By Death
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Not true, but her lip is cut really bad they had to bring a plastic surgeon to do the stitches.
Tesseract
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she's never really experienced that kind of technical out before, but she's got a strong fucking chin, and shook off the confusion good. i think that's why holm kneeled beside her, no fighter wants to see someone go through that (plus holm is an awesome person). they both are.
fuck, what a historic fight.
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