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Ugly Masculine Female Leads In Video Games

lol they are 2 aging guys.
She is too trained very fit soldier.
I find it very realistic. Besides, she doesn’t straight out win this fight. She holds them off.
It’s more unbelievable what drake does in the game rather than her fighting well.
Drake has bodied hundreds of trained soldiers, including much tougher opponents such as Lazarevic. Furthermore he clearly has excellent physical conditioning and upper body strength; climbing and scaling mountains is no easy feat.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Drake has bodied hundreds of trained soldiers, including much tougher opponents such as Lazarevic. Furthermore he clearly has excellent physical conditioning and upper body strength; climbing and scaling mountains is no easy feat.
In lore Drake is just a dude.
Ah right, but you can conveniently can forget Drake had past fight experiences with Uncharted 1, 2, and 3.
Just a dude.
Both Drake and Sam are bigger than Nadine and have defeated plenty of soldiers in hand to hand combat. For two men, who have killed hundreds of people, to struggle to fight a single woman is downright stupidity.
Just dudes. She is a soldier.
Imagine being this delusional lmao
Look in the mirror.

Why are you all acting like cutscene and characters lore is not a different thing than gameplay?
How many times these games have you mowing down 50 soldiers and then to be shot or held at gunpoint by 1 in w cutscene.
Dissonance
 

Mister Wolf

Member
Why is what Drake does, less believable?

In the real world, even a journeymen can beat any female champion.
There is a reason why sports are segregated by gender, especially combat sports.



He is a 6 and 1 journeyman. Clarissa Shields is a two time Olympic gold medalist and a 2 time undisputed champ in the Pro ranks. Here she is getting her world rocked and they aren't even using 8oz gloves while wearing head gear. I feel zero pity for her because she likes to talk shit about fighting men and male boxers far FAR superior to this guy like Kieth Thurman. When feminist meets reality.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud


He is a 6 and 1 journeyman. Clarissa Shields is a two time Olympic gold medalist and a 2 time undisputed champ in the Pro ranks. Here she is getting her world rocked and they aren't even using 8oz gloves while wearing head gear. I feel zero pity for her because she likes to talk shit about fighting men and male boxers far FAR superior to this guy like Kieth Thurman. When feminist meets reality.

Nonsense and not comparable.
Not even anecdotal
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
Why is what Drake does, less believable?

In the real world, even a journeymen can beat any female champion.
There is a reason why sports are segregated by gender, especially combat sports.
Some of the most awkward moments in my life were when I had to spar against women in combat sports. They have to do it in BJJ to understand what a real life situation is like against a man and how dangerous it is for them, but no one feels good about it afterwards.
 

BigBeauford

Member
Imagine a board full of females complaining that Breaking Bad's main character is ugly and they're not going to watch it. That they hope it fails because the MC is unattractive. That's what we look like to a lot of people who couldn't care less about this stuff.
Luckily the target audience for Breaking Bad isn't a "board of females", unlike a science fiction video game, which this board is the target audience for.
 

Three

Gold Member
Why is what Drake does, less believable?
One treasure hunter cannot take out an army of mercenaries. Realistically he would get killed but the aim is to have the player play a fun game. It's the same with all the crap storm troopers and James Bond villains who can't shoot for shit even though they're out in the open. Suspension of disbelief for artistic/funs sake.

Luckily the target audience for Breaking Bad isn't a "board of females", unlike a science fiction video game, which this board is the target audience for.

I've seen numerous females watch breaking bad. Not a single one that hadn't brought up the attractiveness of the MC as a reason, because most aren't unreasonable to not watch based on something so petty and irrelevant.
 
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YuLY

Member
One treasure hunter cannot take out an army of mercenaries. Realistically he would get killed but the aim is to have the player play a fun game. It's the same with all the crap storm troopers and James Bond villains who can't shoot for shit even though they're out in the open. Suspension of disbelief for artistic/funs sake.



I've seen numerous females watch breaking bad. Not a single one that hadn't brought up the attractiveness of the MC as a reason, because most aren't unreasonable to not watch based on something so petty and irrelevant.
Video Games aren't movies. In a movie you watch a character. In video games, a lot of people like TO BE the character. So from the start your analogy is flawed.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
That's exactly how she looks lol,

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Whatchu talkin' about Willis?

The ingame model, at least in the trailer, is the LEAST flattering way to depict this actress. It's A. trying to show her without any make-up (which EVERY actress will tell you is a HARD STOP for filming), B. just bad in-game lighting technology (which EVERY actress will tell you is a bad day on set), or C. they are DELIBERATELY trying to roughen her up, which would make sense for a highly emotionally charged scene, NOT the day she's lounging around on her ship, watching anime, presumably just finished a hard work-out and took a shower, then languidly touched up her bald head and got all trendily dressed....but SKIPPED even a hint of foundation, concealer, eye liner, or lip gloss? The actress has make-up, often quite a bit of it in a very stylized application, in EVERY PHOTO OF HER EVER.

She's an attractive girl, obviously spends a LOT of time on those abs, so the game art choices to represent her in the LEAST appealing way...yeah, I'm a gonna go with she took the paycheck and just shakes her head at why they are doing her game character dirty like that.

Just look at the other options they had...

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Three

Gold Member
Video Games aren't movies. In a movie you watch a character. In video games, a lot of people like TO BE the character. So from the start your analogy is flawed.
A lot of people also don't care when it's a set character. When I played perfect dark on an N64 I wasn't pretending to be a female, I wasn't pretending to be kid Link with long blond hair, or a panda in tekken or Voldo in Soul calibur. You would be surprised how many people don't want to BE the character like that. This is more than that though and has less to do with roleplaying.
 
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Lunnarre

Neo Member
I feel like you didn't read my entire post, but id argue no ND game is sold on making it's characters attractive to the audience any more than convention... especially when most of the main characters are males.
Almost every main and supporting character, male and female, in uncharted is hot. If you think that wasn't intentional to attract the audience to the games, I don't know what to tell you.
You both are missing the initial premise that this character isn't ugly, and the real women she's based off of isnt ugly either.
Yes it is and yes she is.
 

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
Whatchu talkin' about Willis?

The ingame model, at least in the trailer, is the LEAST flattering way to depict this actress. It's A. trying to show her without any make-up (which EVERY actress will tell you is a HARD STOP for filming), B. just bad in-game lighting technology (which EVERY actress will tell you is a bad day on set), or C. they are DELIBERATELY trying to roughen her up, which would make sense for a highly emotionally charged scene, NOT the day she's lounging around on her ship, watching anime, presumably just finished a hard work-out and took a shower, then languidly touched up her bald head and got all trendily dressed....but SKIPPED even a hint of foundation, concealer, eye liner, or lip gloss? The actress has make-up, often quite a bit of it in a very stylized application, in EVERY PHOTO OF HER EVER.

She's an attractive girl, obviously spends a LOT of time on those abs, so the game art choices to represent her in the LEAST appealing way...yeah, I'm a gonna go with she took the paycheck and just shakes her head at why they are doing her game character dirty like that.

Just look at the other options they had...

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She looks exactly the same in the game to me. The pictures you're showing has her wearing different hairstyles. Perhaps there is a significance of her being bald in the game, lore wise or perhaps it's just an artistic choice by ND.

Other than the hairstyle, her in-game model looks exactly as her real-life counterpart, including facial animations and those very noticeable eyebrows.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
She looks exactly the same in the game to me. The pictures you're showing has her wearing different hairstyles. Perhaps there is a significance of her being bald in the game, lore wise or perhaps it's just an artistic choice by ND.

Other than the hairstyle, her in-game model looks exactly as her real-life counterpart, including facial animations and those very noticeable eyebrows.
Eh, well, we can agree to disagree then. No question they modelled the in-game character heavily on the actress, I just think they zigged every time they could have zagged on making her look appealing and I doubt the actress herself would have wanted to be filmed looking like that on an actual set if 30 minutes in a make-up trailer was an option to at least get some foundation and some eye liner on. She knows how to do a "I'm not wearing make-up" make-up job :p
 
I've seen numerous females watch breaking bad. Not a single one that hadn't brought up the attractiveness of the MC as a reason, because most aren't unreasonable to not watch based on something so petty and irrelevant.
Your analogy doesn't work at all and is incredibly stupid. With Breaking Bad, the whole point is he's a schlub.
 

Allandor

Member
lil bro...I'm overweight and barely do physical activity. Give me 2 mins in a room with a woman like Nadine and I will extinguish the life out of her, what the fuck are you talking about?
??? Overestimating yourself?
Everybody can loose almost against anybody if he/she lands some lucky hits. Fight sport exercise helps a lot to go against opponents that are way stronger than yourself. Btw, fighting in a ring is no mirror for the reality. E.g. men normally have an obvious weak spot if hit hard ...
In fight sports this is a no go, but in self defense...


Also I really don't like Drake or the uncharted series because he really can't do anything right, he just has damn much luck to not fall into his death, over and over again. He is always rescued by some coincidence. But I guess this is another topic
 

Three

Gold Member
Your analogy doesn't work at all and is incredibly stupid. With Breaking Bad, the whole point is he's a schlub.

That's not the point of it at all. Unless you think looks are financial. Besides, do you know anything about how Tati is meant to be portrayed as a character? Maybe she too has become a "schlub" since the five aces disbanded?

She looks like she's had better days in this photo of her in the game
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Ere lies the issue, fucking weirdos like you who think any woman with beautiful feminine traits should either wear a hijab or be enslaved in sex trafficking or porn.

This way of thinking makes me fucking puke.
How the fuck were you able to deduct that from my post? I’m genuinely speechless.
 
Can I just chime in to say how much joy it brings me to watch when divisive design decisions overlap console exclusive fan wars? You get to sometimes watch people do complete 180's on opinions when the other team does the same thing.

The conversations are never as much fun when its just a third party/all platform release that pulls this stuff. You don't see the same energy in the comments.
 
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Your analogy doesn't work at all and is incredibly stupid. With Breaking Bad, the whole point is he's a schlub.

Sure, but there are countless examples of "not hot" male leads where no one seems to care. It's a double standard. Women, generally, need to be attractive. Men can be anything. Ugly, average, attractive, or smokin' hot and people rarely bat an eye.

Look, if y'all want hot girls, that's fine. You can want that in your media. But also don't make a big stink and act like it's an afront to an entire genre or pushing an agenda when you don't get what you want.

Honestly, I feel like a bunch of you guys just need to grow up. Being bothered by the attractiveness of a main character is weird. Like, I get it, Intergalactic's protagonist, for example, doesn't need to be that masculine but then Stellar Blade's Eve doesn't need to be that feminine. And yet both are characters that represent perfectly acceptable design choices.

It's the same with all the crap storm troopers and James Bond villains who can't shoot for shit even though they're out in the open.

Well.... at least in New Hope, the Stormtroopers missed on purpose.
 
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TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I'm not buying games starred by ugly chicks, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

Game devs should realize that they are making very expensive to develop products that have to cater to as many people as possible. Putting an ugly chick in there appeals to who exactly? I don't get it, it's like they'd rather smell their own farts than making money.

Hope this flops, hard, and Neil gets the boot. ND has some of the best talent in the industry, they deserve a better game director.
 
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Doczu

Member
Some of the most awkward moments in my life were when I had to spar against women in combat sports. They have to do it in BJJ to understand what a real life situation is like against a man and how dangerous it is for them, but no one feels good about it afterwards.
So much this. I was paired with a woman during one of my boxing trainings. She was a lot better than me when it came to technique but i could easily over power her and bring her down.
To me it felt weird throwing punches (curse you, my patriarchy ubringing!) but it was a reality check and hard lesson for her. Power fantasy ends when the first jab hits
 

Tams

Member
Some of the most awkward moments in my life were when I had to spar against women in combat sports. They have to do it in BJJ to understand what a real life situation is like against a man and how dangerous it is for them, but no one feels good about it afterwards.

So much this. I was paired with a woman during one of my boxing trainings. She was a lot better than me when it came to technique but i could easily over power her and bring her down.
To me it felt weird throwing punches (curse you, my patriarchy ubringing!) but it was a reality check and hard lesson for her. Power fantasy ends when the first jab hits

I remember in primary/elementary school that another school brought a girl on their rugby team.

We were all worried that we might touch her boobs, or hurt her so went very soft on her. Even then she was a net detriment to their team, and our coach/headmaster made us go easy on them. We still scored over 100.

Whenever I've done martial arts I've hated sparring with females. It's simply just too imbalanced. Karate at least had kata that I could be shown up on. Aikido though... having this experienced woman trying to twist you onto the floor with all her might and you just feel like yawning...
 

Griffon

Member
How the fuck were you able to deduct that from my post? I’m genuinely speechless.
"iF yOU WanT To LoOk At Pretty GirLs THere's PornHuB."
No, I want them to be represented and live everywhere freely without getting harassed/judged by weirdos who can't keep themselves under control.

If you think males liking pretty women in their games is weird, you need to take a good look inside. That's a you problem.
 
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member


He is a 6 and 1 journeyman. Clarissa Shields is a two time Olympic gold medalist and a 2 time undisputed champ in the Pro ranks. Here she is getting her world rocked and they aren't even using 8oz gloves while wearing head gear. I feel zero pity for her because she likes to talk shit about fighting men and male boxers far FAR superior to this guy like Kieth Thurman. When feminist meets reality.

He set her up nicely. Telegraphed his right to make her dodge and had the left hook waiting for her in the blind spot as her head went rearing back with force. Force + Force = On yo ass.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
So much this. I was paired with a woman during one of my boxing trainings. She was a lot better than me when it came to technique but i could easily over power her and bring her down.
To me it felt weird throwing punches (curse you, my patriarchy ubringing!) but it was a reality check and hard lesson for her. Power fantasy ends when the first jab hits
It is frankly ridiculous that we need to say these things out loud in the year of our lord 2024 after men organized society to protect women from male violence for the entire history of human civilization. People have become delusional beyond belief.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
So much this. I was paired with a woman during one of my boxing trainings. She was a lot better than me when it came to technique but i could easily over power her and bring her down.
To me it felt weird throwing punches (curse you, my patriarchy ubringing!) but it was a reality check and hard lesson for her. Power fantasy ends when the first jab hits
But you were not paired with top trained soldier woman who knows some martial arts.
Anecdotal at best
 

Three

Gold Member
"iF yOU WanT To LoOk At Pretty GirLs THere's PornHuB."
No, I want them to be represented and live everywhere freely without getting harassed by weirdos who can't keep themselves under control.

If you think males liking pretty women in their games is weird, you need to take a good look inside. That's a you problem.
So, let's harass the 'ugly' ones instead and have them not represented?
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
On a side note, I have buzzcut myself just because it's simple and I am too lazy to care for my hair. It's not important to me.
Being a woman would suck if I suddenly couldn't do that and had to wear full set of hair and spend x time daily caring for it.
 
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