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Ugly Masculine Female Leads In Video Games

jason10mm

Gold Member
You guys really are not using the best arguments here. None of the pictures show her as an attractive girl, especially this one.

Posting more pictures just make things worse.
Eh, I like the way she looks, most times. She was BANGING in that Sabrina show, some real peaches in that cast. But I was trying to show how make-up, lighting, and hair can affect her looks, and how ND went the extreme on her to, IMHO, her detriment.
 

Fake

Gold Member
Lmao, yeah, that's just not true.

Most of the men find physical attractiveness important. I can say this as man, unless you are not. Feel free to prove otherwise.

Eh, I like the way she looks, most times. She was BANGING in that Sabrina show, some real peaches in that cast. But I was trying to show how make-up, lighting, and hair can affect her looks, and how ND went the extreme on her to, IMHO, her detriment.

For you maybe. Taste is not discussed. And again you pick up a terrible picture to prove your point. She is very very ugly in that particular picture.

And I'm not saying you are wrong to "find her beauty", but I'm saying you are wrong for saying "she is beauty".
 
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jason10mm

Gold Member
Whenever I've done martial arts I've hated sparring with females. It's simply just too imbalanced. Karate at least had kata that I could be shown up on. Aikido though... having this experienced woman trying to twist you onto the floor with all her might and you just feel like yawning...
Very true, those little bird-like bones on a slim chick makes them feel hollow.

Every now and then one has some real muscle to her and gets yah with a burst of speed though. But otherwise it's fighting in slow motion.
 

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Yes it is. For women, looks = everything. Plenty of ugly dudes with hot girls. Not many reverse examples. Stop the cap.
There's lot's of reasons some will choose to be in a relationship beyond looks. To say it doesn't matter is wrong. Equating that as a necessity of any kind in a game is just fucking absurd.
 
"iF yOU WanT To LoOk At Pretty GirLs THere's PornHuB."
No, I want them to be represented and live everywhere freely without getting harassed/judged by weirdos who can't keep themselves under control.

If you think males liking pretty women in their games is weird, you need to take a good look inside. That's a you problem.
I never said pretty women in games is wierd you clown, but it is hardly the main focus of a game is it? But if it is for you then porn would be a wiser choice.

You must be one of those fringe types that wank to video games one-handed. How do you even do that, your schlong in one hand and the controller in the other?

Edit: Sorry I forgot, maybe you use M&K so How do you choose, keyboard or mouse? Don’t want to discriminate.
 
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Three

Member
It's been obvious that the woke ideology is pushing for masculine women with male traits (with big strong harms or huge man-jaws). I don't like what it implies, it's misogynistic in a not subtle way. As if feminine traits are bad and should be hidden.
This actress hasn't been altered. People have continously posted this completely photoshopped image of her
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as if her actual real traits "are bad and should be hidden". Whoever did that photoshop completely botched her actual jawline with the brush tool
 
Are you talking as a man or as a woman?

Because there are a loads of dudes here and somehow you are saying they are all wrong.
If I tuck does that count? Go back and re-read wtf I'm even talking about. I'm done trying to convince anyone that a physical attraction isn't important to women. That's beyond even my help. Hell, even any brave women here would be laughing if they weren't too busy swiping left.
 

Griffon

Member
This actress hasn't been altered. People have continously posted this completely photoshopped image of her
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as if her actual real traits "are bad and should be hidden". Whoever did that photoshop completely botched her actual jawline with the brush tool

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Doczu

Member
But you were not paired with top trained soldier woman who knows some martial arts.
Anecdotal at best
Well maybe if i was a mid trained soldier paired with a top trained woman with some martial arts i would say the same but change "boxing" with "soldier" with a mix of "martial arts".
There is a reason guys don't fight girls in martial arts.

Nevertheless - i don't care about it in my vidya or movies as long as it's a flashy action romp with explosions, ass and tits. If you take the tits and ass out i am going to care.
 

hyperbertha

Member
There's lot's of reasons some will choose to be in a relationship beyond looks. To say it doesn't matter is wrong. Equating that as a necessity of any kind in a game is just fucking absurd.
Men will go into a relationship because she is hot/cute. Women go into it for a million different reasons, money, lifestyle, vibe etc etc. For women only looks matter really and to say it's not is just willful delusion.
 
Men will go into a relationship because she is hot/cute. Women go into it for a million different reasons, money, lifestyle, vibe etc etc. For women only looks matter really and to say it's not is just willful delusion.
For random hookups? Sure. For a long term relationship? Well, gl with that if attraction is your only criteria.
 

Griffon

Member
I never said pretty women in games is wierd you clown, but it is hardly the main focus of a game is it? But if it is for you then porn would be a wiser choice.

You must be one of those fringe types that wank to video games one-handed. How do you even do that, your schlong in one hand and the controller in the other?

Edit: Sorry I forgot, maybe you use M&K so How do you choose, keyboard or mouse? Don’t want to discriminate.
"iF yOU WanT To LoOk At Pretty GirLs THere's PornHuB."

Same thing again eh. You're proving my point.
 
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Three

Member
She ain't a skinny lady in the uncharted movie either if you find unflatteringly masculine shots


She has makup on though. But I'm talking about her jawline and face which is her natural self more than the photoshopped shots people are using.
 

gow3isben

Member
Suspension of disbelief isn't broken by Drake overcoming small groups of enemies through the player's own stealth, skill, and outmaneuvering, sequentially, many times over the course of a game. Each individual scenario is relatively plausible.

Suspension of disbelief is immediately broken by a tiny lady overpowering and manhandling two hardened male killers in a hand to hand brawl (unless she has superpowers or a cyborg body). It's also in an interactive cutscene which will be extra frustrating to the player.

Lost Legacy mildly helped by having her get repeatedly overpowered by that Indian dude
 
I'm not buying games starred by ugly chicks, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

Game devs should realize that they are making very expensive to develop products that have to cater to as many people as possible. Putting an ugly chick in there appeals to who exactly? I don't get it, it's like they'd rather smell their own farts than making money.

Hope this flops, hard, and Neil gets the boot. ND has some of the best talent in the industry, they deserve a better game director.

Rockstar excel at making ugly characters and no one seems to care. Weird, right? Oh, also Wario because he's the best.

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See, man... It's just a double standard. It's everywhere, too. Not just games. You don't really hear people complaining about men being too unattractive in media. No ridiculous arguments about "who will this appeal to?" No stupidity about how having a male lead that isn't hot will be overly self-serving. No one hoping that a movie will fail because, gosh darn it, Anthony Hopkins isn't hot enough.
 

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Rockstar excel at making ugly characters and no one seems to care. Weird, right? Oh, also Wario because he's the best.

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See, man... It's just a double standard. It's everywhere, too. Not just games. You don't really hear people complaining about men being too unattractive in media. No ridiculous arguments about "who will this appeal to?" No stupidity about how having a male lead that isn't hot will be overly self-serving. No one hoping that a movie will fail because, gosh darn it, Anthony Hopkins isn't hot enough.
Ok? Dude, I'm not buying games with ugly chicks, and I don't care how the males look at all.

Call it double standards or whatever you like. For me, it's very simple: I'm a consumer and if the product doesn't appeal to me, then fuck that product.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
Rockstar excel at making ugly characters and no one seems to care. Weird, right? Oh, also Wario because he's the best.

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See, man... It's just a double standard. It's everywhere, too. Not just games. You don't really hear people complaining about men being too unattractive in media. No ridiculous arguments about "who will this appeal to?" No stupidity about how having a male lead that isn't hot will be overly self-serving. No one hoping that a movie will fail because, gosh darn it, Anthony Hopkins isn't hot enough.
For me I don’t want play as ugly male or female characters, this is one of my reason why I’m more attracted towards Japanese games compare to western games.

I’m not playing games for “realism” I don’t want butt ugly characters in my entertainment….its that simple.
 
Since this thread is really about Intergalactic, I'll say something I told a friend. Naughty Dog really messed up with the shaving of the head. If the main character wasn't unattractive and had hair in front of the scars, she could have brushed the hair aside to reveal the scars. That's way more intriguing and people would be coming up with theories on everything in the trailer instead of the current situation. It's just incredible how much ND goofed.
 

Zacfoldor

Member
All these ad hominem attacks against people who won't buy the game but strangely no attacks against those who would buy it.

Freedom is scary.

It's not asking much for the industry that we continue to fund, to conform to our desires - IF they want to sell us videogames. Nowadays there are plenty of alternatives and on this one they don't got me with nostalgia, so good luck selling this.

The game just doesn't appeal to me.

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SenkiDala

Member
Forget who's making the point. That doesn't really matter. Yes, Asmon is a bit of a cunt. But he's saying that games that don't appeal to the main target audience are more likely to fail. What's your opinion on that?

Half these discussions get utterly lost in attacks on the messenger, rather than the message.
Mario, Pikmin, Master Chief... What characters look like doesn't matter and never mattered.

And even if it did, seeing the main protagonist of this game as "ugly" and "masculine" just because she shaves her head... I mean look at her face, she's a very beautiful woman, and as long as I don't mind being surrounded by NeoGAF homosexuals, I'm still quite surprised.

Having hair or not does not erase your beauty, the harmony of the lines of your face. It is also a proof of beauty, if you are beautiful without hair you are beautiful in any situation, especially for a woman.

And anyway in the end beauty is subjective, to a certain level. As a person attracted by women I think she's pretty. In the same way that most of GAF users, who appears to be homosexuals, are attracted by guys like Nathan Drake, Kratos, or I dunno, Ryan Gosling ? Tell me guys.
 

Warablo

Member
Intergalactic I dont mind the way she looks, mostly because she pulls off the look well and matching attitude. Witcher 4 I was also fine with, Ciri looks more mature and confident with experience.
 

FunkMiller

Banned
Mario, Pikmin, Master Chief... What characters look like doesn't matter and never mattered.

And even if it did, seeing the main protagonist of this game as "ugly" and "masculine" just because she shaves her head... I mean look at her face, she's a very beautiful woman, and as long as I don't mind being surrounded by NeoGAF homosexuals, I'm still quite surprised.

Having hair or not does not erase your beauty, the harmony of the lines of your face. It is also a proof of beauty, if you are beautiful without hair you are beautiful in any situation, especially for a woman.

And anyway in the end beauty is subjective, to a certain level. As a person attracted by women I think she's pretty. In the same way that most of GAF users, who appears to be homosexuals, are attracted by guys like Nathan Drake, Kratos, or I dunno, Ryan Gosling ? Tell me guys.

The fact you immediately drop into childish ‘you’re all gay’ insults clearly indicates you have no interest in engaging with the salient point.

‘She IS beautiful. You’re all homosexuals’ is not much of an argument when the discussion is about whether games developers should tailor their games to the core audience that will make it a success or not.

Either act like an adult and address the conversation topic, or go back to Reee and celebrate how clever you are with them.

Also, what characters look like and who they are very much do matter in narrative driven, third person action adventure games of the type Naughty Dog make. Super disingenuous to suggest otherwise.
 
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hyperbertha

Member
Rockstar excel at making ugly characters and no one seems to care. Weird, right? Oh, also Wario because he's the best.

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See, man... It's just a double standard. It's everywhere, too. Not just games. You don't really hear people complaining about men being too unattractive in media. No ridiculous arguments about "who will this appeal to?" No stupidity about how having a male lead that isn't hot will be overly self-serving. No one hoping that a movie will fail because, gosh darn it, Anthony Hopkins isn't hot enough.
I said it before. Both genders are different. Mens looks don't matter nearly as much as women's. Yes there is a double standard but that's just how the world is.
 

SenkiDala

Member
The fact you immediately drop into childish ‘you’re all gay’ insults clearly indicates you have no interest in engaging with the salient point.

‘She IS beautiful. You’re all homosexuals’ is not much of an argument when the discussion is about whether games developers should tailor their games to the core audience that will make it a success or not.

Either act like an adult and address the conversation topic, or go back to Reee and celebrate how clever you are with them.

Also, what characters look like and who they are very much do matter in narrative driven, third person action adventure games of the type Naughty Dog make. Super disingenuous to suggest otherwise.
Come on, I'm kidding because the subject is childish and pointless as fuck.

Since VG heroes exists some look cool, badass, some look stupid, some look realistic etc. I don't think that how the character of that game looks will affecet the sales a bit. Look TLOU2, the heroin is gay, doesn't look attractive at all, her gf look like a normal girl, etc and the game sold very well. In Souls games the characters (I talk about faces) look bad and the games sell very well...

While Stellar Blade sold well with its beautiful heroind, it didn't sell THAT well... 100% sure Intergalactic will sell A LOT better.

I think that what can sell bad is bad character design, for exemple in Concord the characters looked like shit, not that they are not well rendered in 3D but... They are ugly at the point they are painful to watch. For exemple in Valorant the characters look good for what they are, but in Concord... It's about a lack of talent.

I think that the character of Intargalactic looks badass, she reminds me Ripley in Alien 3, she is imo well designed, you can think she's attractive or not it's not the point but, "for what she is", she is well designed.

I'm joking (badly) on this thread because I think it's pathetic to debate about such pointless topic... It's so immature.
 

FunkMiller

Banned
I'm joking (badly) on this thread because I think it's pathetic to debate about such pointless topic... It's so immature.

What exactly is immature about debating the way a major games developer chooses to target its core demographic? I agree that it’s dumb to constantly just whine about what she looks like, but it’s perfectly to valid to have a discussion over the rights and wrongs of the way Naughty Dog chooses to appeal (or otherwise) to its primary audience.

One of the reasons why so many games have failed recently is the refusal to engage with this, and I’m fascinated to see so many people seeking to dismiss something that could have a massive impact on sales.
 

JayK47

Member
I am watching the video now and tend to mostly agree with it. Sales will be hurt by the bad reception of this game. And ND knows full well what they are doing. They are willing to take the financial hit. Most developers these days like to double down on decisions that lead to community pushback. There was a time when they would have listened and made changes to make fans happy. Those days seem to be gone. It is us, the gamers, who are to blame for not liking every game. Good thing there are so many games then, as I can ignore anything that doesn't look good and play plenty of other games. Let the market decide.
 

Fake

Gold Member
Are we talking "not fat" or "significant muscle definition"?

Attractiveness took many forms. Some are more tolerant with near 'chubby' ones, others like a very shape woman.

I don't think I need to tell you that right? Don't confund standart beauty with getting in love with someone.

Tastes vary, but the principle are still in place. Face, eyes, breasts, butt.
 

simpatico

Member
Attractiveness took many forms. Some are more tolerant with near 'chubby' ones, others like a very shape woman.

I don't think I need to tell you that right? Don't confund standart beauty with getting in love with someone.

Tastes vary, but the principle are still in place. Face, eyes, breasts, butt.
I was going to disagree in you meant "muscular" in a broad sense. It's certainly not worse than ultra-fat, but I dated a softball player in college and it's not ideal. It's like cuddling with your gym bro. The sculpted back during sex was also a turn-off. For me at least. Skinny with some padding is the way to go in ideal circumstances. Guys might think they want a muscular girl until they get one.
 

Fake

Gold Member
I was going to disagree in you meant "muscular" in a broad sense. It's certainly not worse than ultra-fat, but I dated a softball player in college and it's not ideal. It's like cuddling with your gym bro. The sculpted back during sex was also a turn-off. For me at least. Skinny with some padding is the way to go in ideal circumstances. Guys might think they want a muscular girl until they get one.

I never mention muscular until you point out. Neither gym. I live in Brazil and a very low part of men here don't pursuit muscle into women. Brazil in fact is one of the top countries that women do plastic surgery, most near to our carnaval period.
Women here care about their aparence and body, nothing to do with 'going to gym' or 'muscle'.
If women here go to gym are to lose weitgh to be in form for our summer.

BTW, the model used for this game don't have muscle. Thats why her head is desproportional to the rest of the body.
 
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