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Ugly Masculine Female Leads In Video Games

Didn't play Uncharted 4, but I just watched the Nadine vs Nate + Sam fight.

What kind of super soldier serum is she using?

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The funny thing is - I played Uncharted 4 on PC after all the TLOU2 drama, and my immediate thought was 'How the hell did people not see this creepy pattern of Druckmann injecting his fetish for ridiculously masculine women beating up men?'. I had no idea he'd done this all before. It's so bizarre and obvious when you put the two games next to each other. And I bet we're about to see more of it in Intergalactic lol.
 
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SF Kosmo

Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Please do find and quote statistics that back this up. Remember, you have to find ones that break down what platforms people play games on, and what kind sof games they are playing.

Because:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_and_video_games



Every single major console and PC game genre is still overwhelmingly played by men. Intergalactic likely comes under the action adventure genre. 82% male audience.
The commercial factor at hand is not what percent of the audience is female, but what percent of the male audience are terminally online little goblins obsessed the bone structure of female game characters.
 

Brakum

Neo Member
will never understand the people who scream impractical at fighting in high heels. Every women i know thinks it looks badass because they dont give a fuck about practicality in fictional worlds. You know who else doesnt? Man. What is more badass? A Man in a practical full plate armor? Or a shirtless viking on an ice planet? Exactly
 

Nickolaidas

Member
will never understand the people who scream impractical at fighting in high heels. Every women i know thinks it looks badass because they dont give a fuck about practicality in fictional worlds. You know who else doesnt? Man. What is more badass? A Man in a practical full plate armor? Or a shirtless viking on an ice planet? Exactly
For the record, full plate armor is fucking badass.
 

Boss Mog

Member
Remember that collage of all the white guy leads that was making the rounds like 5+ years ago. I feel like we could easily make a much bigger one with "ugly masculine female leads" now.
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
It's kind of funny that the people arguing beauty are ..

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lol. But really it's not about how ugly they are its the meaning behind it that I don't like.
 

MarV0

Member
Stupidity goes both ways. The normies are loosing big time.

What the fuck are you talking about? lol
The main character of Intergalactic is a toothless fat woman?
You stupid?

You called Asmon a toothless pig complaining about ugly women in his entertainment and I'm telling you toothless fat ugly women are enjoying the hottest men in their entertainment without anyone trying to deprive them of their sexuality.
 
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MayauMiao

Member
Didn't play Uncharted 4, but I just watched the Nadine vs Nate + Sam fight.

What kind of super soldier serum is she using?

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This is the most ridiculous moment in Uncharted 4. Its stupidly ridiculous that 2 men, having past experience in prison, fights, got beaten by a woman. Don't give excuse just because she's in the military it made her pro at hand to hand combat.
 

Pedro Motta

Member
You stupid?

You called Asmon a toothless pig complaining about ugly women in his entertainment and I'm telling you toothless fat ugly women are enjoying the hottest men in their entertainment without anyone trying to deprive them of their sexuality.
Clam yourself my celibate friend.

There is content for everyone. I'm sure there are toothless fat women watching a tootheless pig calling normal women ugly and feeling good about it.
 

Mister Wolf

Member
This is the most ridiculous moment in Uncharted 4. Its stupidly ridiculous that 2 men, having past experience in prison, fights, got beaten by a woman. Don't give excuse just because she's in the military it made her pro at hand to hand combat.

Neil is a feminist and champion for gender dysphoria. Knowing that expect any and all kinds of fuckery when he is involved.
 

realwords

Member
This is the most ridiculous moment in Uncharted 4. Its stupidly ridiculous that 2 men, having past experience in prison, fights, got beaten by a woman. Don't give excuse just because she's in the military it made her pro at hand to hand combat.

This wasn’t?

 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Fucking toothless pig talking about how ugly women are. This world has gone to shit.
He is rich now and got all brand new teeth. He will get hair transplant too.
He got the money to fix his stuff and he likes his girlfriends to have fake stuff too.
Then he talks about this topic. Hypocrite af
 

MayauMiao

Member
This wasn’t?


When it comes to guns & bullets, there is a certain amount of suspension of disbelief that we can accept because a single hit from a bullet would end the game immediately.

A more believable fight would be the one from Uncharted Lost Legacy.



At least in this fight, Nadine here is shown not to be some super soldier like in Uncharted 4.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
The funny thing is - I played Uncharted 4 on PC after all the TLOU2 drama, and my immediate thought was 'How the hell did people not see this creepy pattern of Druckmann injecting his fetish for ridiculously masculine women beating up men?'. I had no idea he'd done this all before. It's so bizarre and obvious when you put the two games next to each other. And I bet we're about to see more of it in Intergalactic lol.
Funny. Unfinished uc4 many times and I never noticed anything super human about Nadine. Only after people started pointing things out.
She is a muscular well trained top soldier. Drake is just a guy.

What’s more believable?
Drake jumping around like monkey using super human climbing skills and beating an army…. Or top trained soldier fighting well.
 

Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Its the lowest point in the game. It doesn't make sense for her to manhandle two grown men, in peak physical condition, that are used to fight professional soldiers.
It was a clear example of plot armor, taken to the extreme.
Eh, don't agree with that in the slightest. Drake mows down entire armies of professional soldiers all by himself, that's already completely outside of the realm of reality. That Nadine beats him up and his brother is just as ridiculous, perhaps less even. Of course, we all know why ND did that, but using realism as an argument in Uncharted is just comical. It's no different than those martial arts movies where the hero beats up gangs on his own, but then is up against a top-tier female henchman or the main female villain, and gets his ass handed to him.
 
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rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Its the lowest point in the game. It doesn't make sense for her to manhandle two grown men, in peak physical condition, that are used to fight professional soldiers.
It was a clear example of plot armor, taken to the extreme.
lol they are 2 aging guys.
She is too trained very fit soldier.
I find it very realistic. Besides, she doesn’t straight out win this fight. She holds them off.
It’s more unbelievable what drake does in the game rather than her fighting well.
 

Pedro Motta

Member
Its the lowest point in the game. It doesn't make sense for her to manhandle two grown men, in peak physical condition, that are used to fight professional soldiers.
It was a clear example of plot armor, taken to the extreme.
Am I the only one that saw that moment as a comedy section of it? I think it was genious, what logic would there be if they just fucking broke her teeth with one punch and be done with it?

People love to overthink things.
 

realwords

Member
Hit Points have always been an abstraction that isn't supposed to represent actual damage, going all the way back to original D&D.

The OG complaint from winjer winjer about a woman beating two men is rooted in the assumption that physical combat proficiency is entirely tied to gender, which isn’t true. Nadine, the character in question, is established as a trained and highly skilled military operative with experience surpassing both Drake and Sam in hand-to-hand combat. Plus, the entire commentary of the scene is meant to be kinda slapstick physical comedy.

Complaining about this while accepting Drake surviving absurd scenarios like dodging hundreds of bullets due to “luck” feels selective.

If we’re suspending disbelief for one, why not the other? It’s a fictional universe—trained skill should be more believable than magical “luck” mechanics, right?
 
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N30RYU

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winjer

Gold Member
lol they are 2 aging guys.
She is too trained very fit soldier.
I find it very realistic. Besides, she doesn’t straight out win this fight. She holds them off.
It’s more unbelievable what drake does in the game rather than her fighting well.

Those men spend the whole game running, fighting and climbing. Even if they are older, they are in peak physical condition.
And men are on average 30% percent stronger than women. With greater body mass and bone density.
Even if she is a trained soldier, she would never beat 2 fit and trained men.
If it was a one on one fight, maybe. But against 2 men, its complete nonsense.

And remember that almost no women can complete special forces training. Because they all break down from the physical strain. This is not political ideology. These are biological facts.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
The OG complaint about a woman beating two men is rooted in the assumption that physical combat proficiency is entirely tied to gender, which isn’t true. Nadine, the character in question, is established as a trained and highly skilled military operative with experience surpassing both Drake and Sam in hand-to-hand combat.
It is true in virtually all cases when it comes to women fighting men. A 130 lb woman with special military combat training can't take a healthy, experienced, 200+ lb man in a fight. They are worlds apart. Very few women at the level of professional fighters even have the upper body power to KO another woman, and that's with PEDs involved.

It's just a game, and that's fine, but don't make claims about the real world based on a fantasy in your head.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Those men spend the whole game running, fighting and climbing. Even if they are older, they are in peak physical condition.
And men are on average 30% percent stronger than women. With greater body mass and bone density.
Even if she is a trained soldier, she would never beat 2 fit and trained men.
If it was a one on one fight, maybe. But against 2 men, its complete nonsense.

And remember that almost no women can complete special forces training. Because they all break down from the physical strain. This is not political ideology. These are biological facts.
Nonsense. In a game full of these guys doing crazy stunts and killing armies, they are still just guys. Normal dudes against top soldier.
I stand my ground. I don’t find Nadine strange at all. Not in the slightest.
 

winjer

Gold Member
Nonsense. In a game full of these guys doing crazy stunts and killing armies, they are still just guys. Normal dudes against top soldier.
I stand my ground. I don’t find Nadine strange at all. Not in the slightest.

She would have to be an elf or super sayan for that to be true.
Uncharted was never about realism, but that was the moment when it jumped the shark.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
It is true in virtually all cases when it comes to women fighting men. A 130 lb woman with special military combat training can't take a healthy, experienced, 200+ lb man in a fight. They are worlds apart. Very few women at the level of professional fighters even have the upper body power to KO another woman, and that's with PEDs involved.

It's just a game, and that's fine, but don't make claims about the real world based on a fantasy in your head.
She would beat me and my friends. No problem.
Drake is an Indiana jones character. Not a fighter or soldier.
besides. She doesn’t annihilate them lol. The fight doesn’t end in her knocking them out.
She is younger, trained and more agile in general.

If we can suspend our disbelief for what Drake does, the amount of disbelief requires to be suspended for what Nadine does is way way way smaller.
Well name calling isn't going to help.

Care to explain why Nadine suddenly cannot take on a guy in Lost Legacy?
That guy in lost legacy is huge and an army veteran like her
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
She would have to be an elf or super sayan for that to be true.
Uncharted was never about realism, but that was the moment when it jumped the shark.
Again. It’s way more believable than anything Drake does. But somehow people can’t accept that.
 
It is true in virtually all cases when it comes to women fighting men. A 130 lb woman with special military combat training can't take a healthy, experienced, 200+ lb man in a fight. They are worlds apart. Very few women at the level of professional fighters even have the upper body power to KO another woman, and that's with PEDs involved.

It's just a game, and that's fine, but don't make claims about the real world based on a fantasy in your head.

It's not just Nate that couldn't lay a single hand on her in the fight - later on it's him and his brother and neither of them can lay a hand on her either - 2 against 1! Very realistic lol.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Those men spend the whole game running, fighting and climbing. Even if they are older, they are in peak physical condition.
And men are on average 30% percent stronger than women. With greater body mass and bone density.
Even if she is a trained soldier, she would never beat 2 fit and trained men.
If it was a one on one fight, maybe. But against 2 men, its complete nonsense.

And remember that almost no women can complete special forces training. Because they all break down from the physical strain. This is not political ideology. These are biological facts.
But she doesn’t beat them. She even admits that she can’t beat both of them. Both nate and Sam are incredulous that she would even care to them both on.
 
When it comes to guns & bullets, there is a certain amount of suspension of disbelief that we can accept because a single hit from a bullet would end the game immediately.

A more believable fight would be the one from Uncharted Lost Legacy.



At least in this fight, Nadine here is shown not to be some super soldier like in Uncharted 4.

This seems like a much more believable encounter.
 
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