Daffy Duck
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How do the media get away with this shit?
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UK General Election - 8th June 2017 |OT| - The Red Wedding
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Freewheelin'
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Because people are stupid enough to buy it.
Miles Quaritch
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It's not even how the media keep getting away with this shit, it's how people keep fucking falling for it.
Once or twice, okay, everyone is allowed a couple of chances to realise they've been played like an idiot, but to keep fucking falling it, over and over again and then to bitch and moan about being lied to after the fact.
Cunts.
Because if the government shuts down a large collection of sites the public would be forced to visit traditional media either by print or government approved sites.
Self interest basically, and this works with the Tories as you can make deals and influence traditional media.
They don't think they have been lied to. That's why. If you go speak to lifelong conservative voters, they'll tell you Maggie was the best thing to happen to this country but was betrayed by her weak ministers, that Blair and Brown ruined the economy by taxing and spending, and the only way to get out of Brussels and away from meddling EU unelected bureaucrats is to vote for May.
These aren't people thinking they have been tricked. The papers don't shape people from nothing, they are a reflection of that mind set - they feed off each other, reinforcing hatred,
Wow, gutter press at its gutter best. Disgusting
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Edit: Oops. Didn't notice they had all been posted by now. Thought it was only the one (The Sun).
RedSparrows
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Fully expect tomorrow to be the magical inversion of the 'will of the people' to fight the establishment. They wailed, the context changed, now they will squeak.
peanutbutterlatte
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The lack of critical thinking in this country is really heartbreaking. A generation, and another one, and another one, who can't realise that they're being lied to through the teeth of politicians that care nothing for them.
Can't wait to have my very minimal say tomorrow, holding out hope for a surprise.
Can't wait to have my very minimal say tomorrow, holding out hope for a surprise.
TheCrackInTime
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The S*n never fails in it's ability to disgust me. The sooner that piece of shit rag, the Daily Mail and Daily Express are consigned to the history books, the better off we'll be as a country.
Which in itself sounds right wing
SirRattleBalls
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If you ask me, if Students don't come out and vote in full force it's going to be another wipe this election. The hit job right wing news is doing of Diane Abbott is border line racist right now. DM and the Sun need to be investigated.
Investigated by who? The right wing government who love this shit or the police who will be even more understaffed and completely unable to do anything?
Chasm Skulker
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On the one hand, yes it's basically a gotcha before its begun having Diane Abbott on TV because she's guaranteed to fuck up or make herself and Labour look stupid, which is obviously great for the Tories but also makes for great ratings.
On the other, she wants to be Home Secretary. In her latest appearance on Sky she was practically slurring. People should know who else will be in a government when they cast their vote.
Well nobody can use her as an excuse not to vote Labour anymore.
"Diane Abbott standing down as Shadow Home Secretary because of ill-health."
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...campaign-final-day-human-rights-politics-live
"Diane Abbott standing down as Shadow Home Secretary because of ill-health."
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...campaign-final-day-human-rights-politics-live
JonathanEx
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Lyn Brown is now 'standing in' as Shadow Home Sec because of Abbott's ill health.
SNAP
SNAP
show me your skeleton
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i am really not sure this is good for labour but hopefully she gets better soon.
ReplacementPelican
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I can't even fathom how disgraceful the lower-rungs of right-wing press are in this country. Its absolutely scandalous.
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Edit: Oops. Didn't notice they had all been posted by now. Thought it was only the one (The Sun).
I can't believe this is just okay to do with no repercussions.
What asking for the media to be impartial is right wing?
"B-b-but she didn't look ill in the tube picture I don't understand" - The internet
Fixed that for you
Heh
Unrelated: I know it's been mentioned before but I'd be really interested to know the spending of the Conservatives on internet ads - they are EVERYWHERE
I wonder how The Sun thinks it will get half of its content if Facebook gets shut down.
BossDarkseid
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Critical thinking and the Sun don't really go hand in hand.
Dirtyshubb
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I think the thing that bothers me the most to think about this country voting for the Conservatives is that i just dont understand it (other than People=Stupid).
You have the immigration and/or racist angle, i hate it and dont agree with it but i could understand. If your town has suffered due to cheap workers coming in i could see that helping to shape your view, along with our disgusting media.
Other than that though i just dont know how you can look at the last 7 years and say "You did a good job Tories".
NHS is in a mess, Police have been cut by 20,000, Armed police by 1,000, schools are so underfunded they are having to basically go the Patreon route with parents, less well paid jobs etc, etc. and all of that is regularly reported, even by our right wing media, as to be getting worse as we go on.
Those are all things that you should be aware of and have an understanding of how bad it effects people, polls show that these issues are important to people yet every single fucking time they vote for the very same people that are causing the problems.
Like, i sometimes wonder if 45% of our country just have mush for brains because children should be able to understand the connection of whats going on. I say 45% because you also have 5% who are the rich, elite who only care about themselves.
While i never got my hopes up too high, in part thanks to this threads analysis, i was actually feeling hope. Not just hope for Labour but hope that people were starting to understand the real issues that we face BECAUSE of a Tory government and that progressive ideals were breaking through their boogie man reputation.
Now though, that deep despair that i live in a country that is at least 50% Cunt and because of them 95% of us are now going to suffer, some more than others has crept in and im now having to think of what is going to happen and it isnt good.
The one saving grace is that Corbyn has proved many of the haters wrong and shown that there is an appetite for a progressive platform and that the young really are hopefully going to be a force for good. Of course for that to potentially make a big enough difference its going to take at least a decade for the balance to shift from the older, more Conservative views to the 'younger' (50 and under by then) more progressive one but who knows how badly things will have been fucked up by then.
You have the immigration and/or racist angle, i hate it and dont agree with it but i could understand. If your town has suffered due to cheap workers coming in i could see that helping to shape your view, along with our disgusting media.
Other than that though i just dont know how you can look at the last 7 years and say "You did a good job Tories".
NHS is in a mess, Police have been cut by 20,000, Armed police by 1,000, schools are so underfunded they are having to basically go the Patreon route with parents, less well paid jobs etc, etc. and all of that is regularly reported, even by our right wing media, as to be getting worse as we go on.
Those are all things that you should be aware of and have an understanding of how bad it effects people, polls show that these issues are important to people yet every single fucking time they vote for the very same people that are causing the problems.
Like, i sometimes wonder if 45% of our country just have mush for brains because children should be able to understand the connection of whats going on. I say 45% because you also have 5% who are the rich, elite who only care about themselves.
While i never got my hopes up too high, in part thanks to this threads analysis, i was actually feeling hope. Not just hope for Labour but hope that people were starting to understand the real issues that we face BECAUSE of a Tory government and that progressive ideals were breaking through their boogie man reputation.
Now though, that deep despair that i live in a country that is at least 50% Cunt and because of them 95% of us are now going to suffer, some more than others has crept in and im now having to think of what is going to happen and it isnt good.
The one saving grace is that Corbyn has proved many of the haters wrong and shown that there is an appetite for a progressive platform and that the young really are hopefully going to be a force for good. Of course for that to potentially make a big enough difference its going to take at least a decade for the balance to shift from the older, more Conservative views to the 'younger' (50 and under by then) more progressive one but who knows how badly things will have been fucked up by then.
It's interesting, I was speaking to a few on the fence guys in the office and this morning's headlines are actually apparently edging them towards Labour
What they will do in the quiet of the voting station is anyone's guess, but this coverage isn't cut and dry in its effectiveness
Not exactly what you wrote though, is it?
Would these rules stop a left wing publication encouraging people to be left wing?
As for impartiality, I disagree. In an attempt to stop these rags spreading incorrect opinions you'd then have other publications having to portray a balanced view on, for example, removal of human rights, etc
Freedom of the press is not pretty, but to me it's a far scarier world where it's lost.
When I look at the people on the latest series of "Big Brother" it's easy to see why these headlines work. Being dumb and proud has become an aspiration. Something in the UK really changed in the last couple of decades.
SlipperyFishes
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I never thought that here in the UK the term "fake news by biased mainstream media" would hold weight but here we are.
I'm going to assume the Tories will get a 100 seat majority and leave it at that.
If the majority of oridinary people decide to vote Tory/don't vote at all..then frankly they deserve the shit that's coming to them (it really is Turkeys voting for Christmas). A terrible shame for everyone else that gets caught in its wake.
If the majority of oridinary people decide to vote Tory/don't vote at all..then frankly they deserve the shit that's coming to them (it really is Turkeys voting for Christmas). A terrible shame for everyone else that gets caught in its wake.
KarneeKarnay
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We had our chance to regulate the Newpapers in the UK...
Fuck MAY!
I've been reading about her plans in response to terrorism and I am super worried about the amount of crap she might be planning to pull under the guise of increasing security.
Longer Prison sentences for one, bothers me. If the US has proven anything with it's criminal justice system, its that longer sentences don't work. Our prisons are already at critical in population, not to mention the lack of funding.
All she is going to do is make it easier for us to accept the privatisation of the prisons. That is the aim.
Fuck MAY!
I've been reading about her plans in response to terrorism and I am super worried about the amount of crap she might be planning to pull under the guise of increasing security.
Longer Prison sentences for one, bothers me. If the US has proven anything with it's criminal justice system, its that longer sentences don't work. Our prisons are already at critical in population, not to mention the lack of funding.
All she is going to do is make it easier for us to accept the privatisation of the prisons. That is the aim.
Insert Sun picture of Hillsborough lies and the next 25 years of coverage by them.
SlipperyFishes
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No. It's not but I've heard that Orange twat say it so often that it became dismissible but the term itself applies here rather well.
I don't understand anyone who isn't super rich voting for Tory.
What good are they doing for you at all?
They're cutting/privatising all the public services which makes them more expensive and puts them out of your price range. Police numbers are at an all time low and this is a party hellbent on "security". You literally get no benefit from voting Tory if you're not a multi-millionaire. They've done nothing good for anyone over their past reign.
What good are they doing for you at all?
They're cutting/privatising all the public services which makes them more expensive and puts them out of your price range. Police numbers are at an all time low and this is a party hellbent on "security". You literally get no benefit from voting Tory if you're not a multi-millionaire. They've done nothing good for anyone over their past reign.
Freewheelin'
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Going to be seriously depressing Friday morning waking up and seeing that fucking scumbag May has improved upon her majority.
SuperBowser
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In a post-truth society, facts are an aside.
A lot of people just don't believe that Labour would be better. Sure Labour can offer the moon, but if the economy fails and the country goes bankrupt then the fallout would be a lot worse than a few cuts being offered by the Tories. They might argue it's a choice between not paying nurses enough and not paying them at all!
You also have a lot of selfish people to consider. All they will care about is who offers the lowest taxes, and Tories will always win that fight. A hell of a lot of people in this country are just comfortable. Food banks and disability cuts are things they only see in media, or maybe not at all. Meanwhile their own lives are easy/good enough that they aren't willing to risk voting for massive change.
And tribalism. Their families/friends/media support Tories and they'll do the same, like we're cheering for a football team rather than discussing how best to run the country. (This last point applies to both sides, of course).
Final Spark
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The Tory campaign has been dreadful.
Sad that they will most likely still get a considerable majority even with this shit show of a campaign.
Sad that they will most likely still get a considerable majority even with this shit show of a campaign.
itsbenoclock
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Diane Abbott replaced by Lyn Brown as Home Sec due to "ill health"
It's not like they are guaranteed to keep that majority five years from now because most of the gains in this election for them will be related to brexit.The tories electoral coalition will collpase if brexit is a disaster.
Thornton Reed
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this post is on point
Corbyn should have done this two weeks ago.
Anyway, now's the time for the hard left to put up. All I've heard in the last couple of years is "we shouldn't hold a centrist platform because the people want a genuine alternative, and if there is one, the people will vote overwhelmingly for it". Well after you've finished your six hours of campaigning tonight, you better get out and vote for Corbyn first thing tomorrow. I don't want to hear anything along the lines of: "oh I changed to the Greens because I don't like Corbyn's granola policy" or "I didn't vote because Corbyn's just the same as May", and I expect nothing less than 80% turnout tomorrow.
Remember: anything less than a hung parliament against this woeful Conservative campaign, and there'll never be a hard-left government ever again.
Cosmonaut X
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Yeah, saw that. I wonder what on Earth is going on there - not great to have her switched out with a day to go, but there's clearly a fairly major concern if they've done that.
Huw_Dawson
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She has terminal foot-in-mouth disease, it's very sad.
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