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UK General Election - 8th June 2017 |OT| - The Red Wedding
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Lyn Crosby
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as far as nukes go...i've a bit of a hard time imagining France sitting there, seeing the UK being hit by several tsar bombas, and going "this is fine. just play it cool.". Or doing that if any major european country gets hit, really. Trident always seemed more of a "old man wanting to show off his brand new car" kinda deal.
Spuck-uk
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The fallout alone would kill millions in Europe. Not that it would matter because the retaliatory strikes would kill the world.
Not having nukes, but telling the world you do, is the best option, surely?
This is stupidity at its finest.
QuicheFontaine
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When was the last time we did a test? The warheards could be filled with the innards of clock radios and we'd never know.
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Getting pretty close to just saying "You are stupid" to someone there. Maybe let's keep it civil?
I'd say just not having them in the first place is the better option.
Considering we're trusted with Europe's radioactive waste, this hardly seems a sensible suggestion.
Spuck-uk
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That's not helpful, and people have already done a good job trying to educate.
YES I'M BEING REASONABLE FOR ONCE.
31GhostsIV
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Didn't we do one recently that went tits up and nearly resulted in the UK launching missiles at Florida? Not sure if that was nukes, absolutely terrifying if it was. Terrifying either way, come to think of it...
There's no use being helpful to these people anymore. They've made up their minds despite not knowing what they're talking about.
SlickShoes
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If someone nukes someone then the immediate response cannot be to simply launch a retaliatory attack. That just leads to chaos and probably the end of the world as we know it as soon everyone with the capability would be launching them to "protect their own".
Nukes are a huge waste of money, something needs to have already gone catastrophically wrong diplomatically for someone to launch a nuclear attack on another nation. If that happens then having nukes to fire back is scant consolation for the tens of millions of dead people.
QuicheFontaine
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Eh?
At some point it's all that's left to be said. I thought people have might have learned from the American election that cutting off your nose to spite your face doesn't work and is a pretty dumb thing to do. It's demoralising.
Lol, I actually did a double take at that first line
Can't expect people to pay attention to US politics when they won't even pay attention to our own. Educating is all we can do, being right is worthless in a vaccuum.
Spuck-uk
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Listen yeh...
I'm trying. (might be because my meds are starting to work and I'm no longer in constant pain)
HazySaiyan
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British politics is Alien vs Predator confirmed
zorlaczerohero
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This popped up on my Facebook feed, just a little song called 'Please don't vote for Mr Corbyn'.
TheMagician
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I think the Tories will win tomorrow, but it won't be the complete white wash everyone expected when the election was announced.
Jeremy Corbyn has been an absolute credit to himself, his party and the voters.
If this election was a football match then Labour would have been 5-0 down at kick off but when the final whistle goes they will have lost 6-5.
I think the damage was done before the election when there was a huge smear campaign against Corbyn in the media. Remember when he was 'unelectable'? He might not win but I can assure you that there isn't a Labour MP alive right now that would get as many votes as Corbyn will do on Thursday.
I personally think another 5 years of Tory cuts will be devastating for this country, especially with the Tory planned 'hard Brexit'.
However...
Although this may be bad for the people, NHS, police, schools etc, I think it may be a good loss for Labour themselves in the long run.
I think Brexit is going to be a big mess and the negotiating party will get a really bad reputation with the public because of it.
Labour can run against that in 5 years time and get themselves into power again when we're completely on our arses.
In fact, I'm 99% sure that will happen.
Jeremy Corbyn has been an absolute credit to himself, his party and the voters.
If this election was a football match then Labour would have been 5-0 down at kick off but when the final whistle goes they will have lost 6-5.
I think the damage was done before the election when there was a huge smear campaign against Corbyn in the media. Remember when he was 'unelectable'? He might not win but I can assure you that there isn't a Labour MP alive right now that would get as many votes as Corbyn will do on Thursday.
I personally think another 5 years of Tory cuts will be devastating for this country, especially with the Tory planned 'hard Brexit'.
However...
Although this may be bad for the people, NHS, police, schools etc, I think it may be a good loss for Labour themselves in the long run.
I think Brexit is going to be a big mess and the negotiating party will get a really bad reputation with the public because of it.
Labour can run against that in 5 years time and get themselves into power again when we're completely on our arses.
In fact, I'm 99% sure that will happen.
Theonik
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If you can convincingly do so then yes. It's far cheaper than actually having them.
To be fair Hillary and Trump were also both terrible and equally awful human beings, no doubt about it, they would have been equally bad as president totally all the way
Totally unrelated but just had a swell time in London, can't wait to be back when the school year starts, hopefully with Corbyn as PM!
formasymphonic
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Daily Mail with a 13 page attack on Corbyn and the Sun equally doing their part to discredit him.
Worst part of it is probably how successful it will end up being
Worst part of it is probably how successful it will end up being
Hillary equally terrible and as awful as trump?
This attitude is why trump won.
Edit: probably a troll on reflection
Lmao. Is this the definition of a shitpost?
I was being sarcastic, lol. They are in no way comparable, I was having some fun with the poster quoted by the poster I quoted.
Corbynistas have socialist acid for blood that will erode our strength and stability. The Tories are sharpening their blades to rip the spine out the back of the NHS and will hunt as many vulnerable scrongers and foxes as they can.
Whoever wins, we lose.
Spuck-uk
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Unfortunately just weapons grade anti-acid, anti inflammatories and antibiotics that make me insanely nauseous if I drink, as it turns out.
I would happily share some of this big bag of weed though
zorlaczerohero
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Whilst I agree with everything you say I don't see it as a win in 5 years time. Labour will move far away from Corbyn policies, embrace the Tory-lite mantra and claim that's how they got back in. Nothing will change. If the US takes some cues from Sanders and moves left to defeat whoever (please God let Trump be gone) is in the whitehouse then the UK may possibly see Labour move in that direction, but I'm not hopeful.
PJV3
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Thanks, I was trying to formulate a response to that statement, I was struggling to be honest.
Thornton Reed
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I'll meet you on the park behind the cotton exchange
OH, BBC butting in again, they can't allow him to speak freely for too long, must spin it.
I FUCKING HATE THE BBC
EDIT: I fondly remember the BBC giving Gordon Brown what felt like an hour of unlimited pacing back and forth time so he could talk down independence and promise vows and other bullshit that amounted to fuck all, when he wasn't even in a position to offer ANYTHING.
I FUCKING HATE THE BBC
EDIT: I fondly remember the BBC giving Gordon Brown what felt like an hour of unlimited pacing back and forth time so he could talk down independence and promise vows and other bullshit that amounted to fuck all, when he wasn't even in a position to offer ANYTHING.
To be fair you're talking shit and this kind of thinking is what allowed Trump to win and is a huge reason why Corbyn has little chance to win tomorrow.
You would have thought that in the scenario where: every school child gets a proper meal, NHS staff get a pay rise above inflation and proper investment, privatisation in the NHS is rolled back, more police are put on the streets, people on the lowest wages earn more, the country invests in infrastructure , monitises the rail and energy supply sectors for public, not private gain, and students don't come out of uni saddled with debts (that most never pay anyway) - that some of us would win in that scenario.
Who wins under the Tories again?
I can't remember a single positive thing they've said. They have been prattling on about the IRA and magic money trees, like the magic money trees that funded the bank bailouts, and the ones that channel money through the Cayman islands and weep a dark viscous sap whenever a poor person dies. They're a bit like those weirwood trees from game of thrones. When prayed to in the right way, they can deny a JSA claimant money from many hundreds of miles away, and perform Work Capability Assessments on people clearly unfit to work.
They're deffo all as bad as each other. Valar morghulis. Valar dohaeris.
Who wins under the Tories again?
I can't remember a single positive thing they've said. They have been prattling on about the IRA and magic money trees, like the magic money trees that funded the bank bailouts, and the ones that channel money through the Cayman islands and weep a dark viscous sap whenever a poor person dies. They're a bit like those weirwood trees from game of thrones. When prayed to in the right way, they can deny a JSA claimant money from many hundreds of miles away, and perform Work Capability Assessments on people clearly unfit to work.
They're deffo all as bad as each other. Valar morghulis. Valar dohaeris.
Spuck-uk
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Thats the worst case scenario, ayup. A desperate bellyflop to a centre that appeals to nobody who wasn't voting for the Lib Dems anyway.
Spuck-uk
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I used to have my lunch in that park, worked in Lancaster house, small world/city.
Spuck-uk
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V for Vendetta coming true a few decades late.
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vonStirlitz
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V for Vendetta meets Children of Men.
https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/872418339695583233
see you in 2019 when brexit goes to shit
see you in 2019 when brexit goes to shit
I thought the totally all the way bit would be a dead giveaway, unless I'm totally misunderstanding what you're saying
Lmao, that's gold.
I know, you were being sarcastic
JonathanEx
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tbf even if she did deny it that'd mean jack shit on her previous record
Eh, at this point they must have tapped their user base against Corbyn and there won't be too many neutrals they could sway.
Or at least, this is what I hope.
That poor old lady is going to have to send her a personal appeal to not hold another one isn't she
If the brexit deal collapses (because, you know, no deal is better than a bad deal) you really think she'll stick around and face the backlash?
we'll definitely have another election before 2022.
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