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UK PoliGAF: General election thread of LibCon Coalitionage

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Parl

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Zenith said:
Tories will just clinch it or just miss it. But I think it'll be so close they'll appeal to the smaller parties for a coalition than the Lib Dems.
Or form a minority government.
 
Varion said:
I really know nothing about any of the local election candidates, and I'm only going to be living in this constituency for 3 more months, so I just went for the same on the local card :lol

I voted Labour for my local election because they sent me a birthday card on my 18th.

:lol
 
Parl said:
That's just silly. Why don't they just have it so you can only vote at the polling station that's on your polling card?

They do.
Oh you mean the polling card that I lost? They didn't ask for it... I could have found the names and address of many different people and voted that way.
 
Just got phoned up by the LibDems to check I voted :lol

Is Guto Bebb the candidate for Mos Eisley?


So here we are in the final hours before CAMERUIN.
 
thechemist said:
Did my part, now we wait.
What time would we get the first real indications? I know the first exit polls are at 10pm ish.

The big exit poll will be released at 10pm exactly - it's illegal otherwise. The big exit poll by the BBC got it exactly right in 2005 I think, so it should be pretty accurate.
 

thechemist

Member
killer_clank said:
The big exit poll will be released at 10pm exactly - it's illegal otherwise. The big exit poll by the BBC got it exactly right in 2005 I think, so it should be pretty accurate.

Thanks.
 

Wes

venison crêpe
Gary Whitta said:
LOL at the BBC's CGI paving stones :lol

Did you see the bit the Daily Show did on the elections last week? Stewart's face at seeing the BBC's virtual election displays was priceless :lol
 

xbhaskarx

Member
Nate Silver: Final UK Projection: Conservatives 312, Labour 204, LibDems 103

Polling during the past 48 hours has tended to show very slight gains for the Conservatives and Labour at the expense of the Liberal Democrats. Our projection model now forecasts that Conservatives will have 312 seats in the House of Commons (up from 308 in our previous forecast), Labour 204 (up from 198) and Liberal Democrats, 103 (down from 113).
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EDIT: If, as before, we take an "average of averages" from UK Polling Report and PoliticsHome -- both of whom have their numbers up now -- our forecast is only trivially different, with a prediction of Conservatives 315, Labour 205, LibDems 99.
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phisheep

NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
killer_clank said:
The big exit poll will be released at 10pm exactly - it's illegal otherwise. The big exit poll by the BBC got it exactly right in 2005 I think, so it should be pretty accurate.

... and exactly wrong in 1992 ...

this one is so close I don't think we'll have any real feel for the outcome until around 4 am when big swathes of results are in. Margin of error on the polls is bigger than the swings needed to change things in far too many seats.
 

Parl

Member
Napoleonthechimp said:
Oh you mean the polling card that I lost? They didn't ask for it... I could have found the names and address of many different people and voted that way.
Now that's definitely true. You can't go around voting at loads of different places as the same person though. To commit fraud, you'd need others's names and addresses, their local station, and get there before them (which is pretty easy).

I think they should at least require you to take your polling card, and clearly label that it is required to vote. Send one out a few weeks before, and another to be posted a day or two before the election to make sure.

Could have an independant code on each card to prevent further fraud. Similar provisions for postal voting should be made too.

Should be a large campaign to inform the public though, to ensure turnout isn't disrupted via the changes, and possibly even to increase turnout.
 

phisheep

NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
Parl said:
Now that's definitely true. You can't go around voting at loads of different places as the same person though. To commit fraud, you'd need others's names and addresses, their local station, and get there before them (which is pretty easy).

I think they should at least require you to take your polling card, and clearly label that it is required to vote. Send one out a few weeks before, and another to be posted a day or two before the election to make sure.

Could have an independant code on each card to prevent further fraud. Similar provisions for postal voting should be made too.

Should be a large campaign to inform the public though, to ensure turnout isn't disrupted via the changes, and possibly even to increase turnout.

It would all be so much easier if we all had an ID card backed by a DNA database ...

and no. I'm not in favour of it
 

Omikaru

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So I did my part and voted for the LibDems. It's probably a wasted vote, though. I'm voting them because I think Cameron has this one in the bag (by a very slim majority), but if he doesn't then we're in hung parliament territory, and I'd like to see Clegg have more of a mandate (if only in popular vote) than Brown in order to make more demands.

Either way, I'm doubtful that'll happen, so who is excited for Dave's "Big Society"?
 

Sage00

Once And Future Member
Mmm, currently eating fish and chips after proudly having voted Lib Dem in one of the safest seats Labour has. There's something wonderfully self-deprecating about our electoral system. It's too British to change. :p
 
Parl said:
Or form a minority government.

They probably feel they can do this quite safely.

If the other two try and block their legislation they'll paint them as irresponsible parties blocking the recovery. If they trigger another election they'll paint them as irresponsible parties blocking the recovery.

What I'm most interested in tonight is who has the biggest share of the popular vote. I think if that's sufficiently even, or tilting in favour of someone who isn't forming the government we're going to have a really good debate about the merits or lack of with regard to our shitty voting system.

If there's a Labour - Lib Dem coalition but Brown has to step down, does that trigger another election?
 

mclem

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Wes said:
Did you see the bit the Daily Show did on the elections last week? Stewart's face at seeing the BBC's virtual election displays was priceless :lol

Any idea what day? I'll see if I can find it on the 4oD player.
 

Sage00

Once And Future Member
radioheadrule83 said:
They probably feel they can do this quite safely.

If the other two try and block their legislation they'll paint them as irresponsible parties blocking the recovery. If they trigger another election they'll paint them as irresponsible parties blocking the recovery.

What I'm most interested in tonight is who has the biggest share of the popular vote. I think if that's sufficiently even, or tilting in favour of someone who isn't forming the government we're going to have a really good debate about the merits or lack of with regard to our shitty voting system.

If there's a Labour - Lib Dem coalition but Brown has to step down, does that trigger another election?
Nope, party leaders can change as many times as you want.
 

phisheep

NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
Does scampi & chips count?

radioheadrule83 said:
If there's a Labour - Lib Dem coalition but Brown has to step down, does that trigger another election?

No.

But there'll be a heck of a row about it unless Clegg is PM, since one of the main planks of the Labour campaign was the experience of Brown ("I'm the man to see this through") so if he's not actually there it will be difficult to convincingly claim a mandate for a Labour PM.
 

Sage00

Once And Future Member
I really hope Nigel Farage recovers quickly. I'm glad he's ok, he's the one face of that part of the right wing I can stand, and I love his rants..

..but I thought this part of the article on his crash was great:

The aircraft, a PZL-104 Wilga 35A, is a Polish fixed-wing aircraft
 
been in and voted lib dem earlier, i live in quite a safe tory twats seat but you never know might get him out

now please i hope not too many people have fallen for that snake cameron, after living through the tories destroying our country in the 80s and 90s i dont think we could survive them again
 
frankie_baby said:
been in and voted lib dem earlier, i live in quite a safe tory twats seat but you never know might get him out

now please i hope not too many people have fallen for that snake cameron, after living through the tories destroying our country in the 80s and 90s i dont think we could survive them again
It's been long enough that many people have forgotten how shit life in England was under Thatcher and Major. I'm sure they'll all be reminded soon enough though.
 
Gary Whitta said:
It's been long enough that many people have forgotten how shit life in England was under Thatcher and Major. I'm sure they'll all be reminded soon enough though.

i'd say say that the people being so thick that they'd get what they deserve but we'll all have to suffer
 

Sage00

Once And Future Member
frankie_baby said:
i'd say say that the people being so thick that they'd get what they deserve but we'll all have to suffer
With the boost SNP, Plaid and SF/SDLP will get out of a Tory govt. maybe not everyone for long. :lol
 
Placed my local and national vote for the Lib Dems a few hours ago, then went into town to pick up a yellow tie for tonight! :D

The guy running for the local election is who's picking me up tonight. See you guys at 11 tonight.
 
Yeah, I keep remembering we have the Scottish Parliament. Assuming funding to Scotland/Wales/NI stays roughly the same, we should escape the main brunt of evil tories.
 

Sage00

Once And Future Member
killer_clank said:
Yeah, I keep remembering we have the Scottish Parliament. Assuming funding to Scotland/Wales/NI stays roughly the same, we should escape the main brunt of evil tories.
Depends if tax raising powers are devolved. It's been recommended, Labour were in the process of it and the Tories said they see no reason why they wouldn't continue that plan but who knows. They've been anti-devolution before.
 
killer_clank said:
Yeah, I keep remembering we have the Scottish Parliament. Assuming funding to Scotland/Wales/NI stays roughly the same, we should escape the main brunt of evil tories.

Cameron already highlighted the north east as one of the major targets for spending cuts. :(

I'm pleased some of you guys might escape relatively unscathed but we're going to be royally fucked. I doubt any area will be hit harder.
 

Veidt

Blasphemer who refuses to accept bagged milk as his personal savior
This has been a very exciting day.
Hope things work out for all of us.
 

Ikuu

Had his dog run over by Blizzard's CEO
Voted Lib Dem. the MP around here had an 11k majority in the last election so can't see him being moved.
 

DSWii60

Member
Just voted. Unfortunately my vote counts for nothing here (Croydon North), there's a 30,000 labour majority. I do want the Tories out of the council though and I hope we manage to get rid of them. It's a shame that Croydon Central and Croydon South are going to end up Tory and ruin any hope of that.
 

Varion

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brain_stew said:
Cameron already highlighted the north east as one of the major targets for spending cuts. :(

I'm pleased some of you guys might escape relatively unscathed but we're going to be royally fucked. I doubt any area will be hit harder.
Conservative governments laugh in the face of the north :(

<-- North Westerner.
 
Varion said:
Conservative governments laugh in the face of the north :(

<-- North Westerner.

They know they're never going to win any seats here anyway, so they're free to fuck us over without consequence. Thanks to devolved power, Wales and Scotland may fair better than under the last Tory government but that means us in the north (particularly in Labour heartlands like Newcastle, Sunderland, Durham, Liverpool and Manchester etc.) will get even more of the shaft. It aint going to be pretty. :(
 

Wes

venison crêpe
"Ladbrokes report that their biggest market move has been on turnout being over 70%. The odds have collapsed to 5/4 (from 15/8 this morning) on turnout topping the 70% mark."
 
Wes said:
"Ladbrokes report that their biggest market move has been on turnout being over 70%. The odds have collapsed to 5/4 (from 15/8 this morning) on turnout topping the 70% mark."

Hmm, considering its usually younger voters that fail to turnout and the LDs have a totally disproportionate share of the youth vote..............


Nahh,, don't want to get my hopes up but it could certainly throw a spanner in the works. Either way, its great to see turnout on the rise.
 

Varion

Member
brain_stew said:
They know they're never going to win any seats here anyway, so they're free to fuck us over without consequence. Thanks to devolved power, Wales and Scotland may fair better than under the last Tory government but that means us in the north (particularly in Labour heartlands like Newcastle, Sunderland, Durham, Liverpool and Manchester etc.) will get even more of the shaft. It aint going to be pretty. :(
Yeah, this is why I'm worried :(

Never mind that my dad has a public sector job, and being a few years off retirement really isn't at the age where finding another one would be particularly simple.
 
I'm surprised SKY or some Murdoch groups doesn't run one of these headlines:

CLEGG: Late as usual!
Clegg knows his place: LAST!
Clegg is in last!
Clegg shirking his civic duty.
Clegg late to vote because he was plotting with his foreigner wife to surrender Gibraltar! :lol

Based on this normal election report.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/election_2010/8663716.stm
David Cameron was the first of the main UK party leaders to cast their vote. The Tory leader went to a community hall in the Witney constituency, Oxfordshire, shortly after 1030 BST, accompanied by his wife, Samantha.

Labour leader Gordon Brown went to vote shortly after 1100 BST at a community centre close to his home in North Queensferry, Fife. His wife, Sarah, was with him.

Nick Clegg, leader of the Liberal Democrats, arrived at a polling station in Sheffield Hallam at 1120 BST. His wife, Miriam, is unable to vote in the general election because she is a Spanish citizen.
 

DSWii60

Member
Wes said:
Are we going to do any seat predictions before the exit polls are released at 10pm?

Why not? I'll get the ball rolling.

Conservatives: 311
Labour: 203
Lib Dems: 94

Estimates are based on figures pulled out of my arse.
 
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