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[industrian]

He should go wacky and fire off the Tridents, then you can create new jobs to replace the old missiles.

And new jobs to clean up and rebuild the Tory constituencies that got hit! Win-win!

 

[phisheep]

I expect a Con/Lib coalition, or at least some sort of arrangement. Can't see Libs entering coalition with Labour and retaining any honour - or credible plans for deficit reduction.

 

[Mr Nash]

So I'm guessing England doesn't have a Single Transferable Vote system (though it seems Scotland and N. Ireland do)? Something like that would have probably helped the Liberal Democrats be better represented in parliament, though most politicians loath STV so the chances of it being implemented are slim and none.

 

[Xavien]

gap between tories and Lab+Lib = 15

So I'm guessing England doesn't have a Single Transferable Vote system (though it seems Scotland and N. Ireland do)? Something like that would have probably helped the Liberal Democrats be better represented in parliament, though most politicians loath STV so the chances of it being implemented are slim and none.

Yep, no STV. LD are for STV and if Lab can ally with LD, LD might be able to push for STV as its in both Labour and LD interests (as they hold 50+% of the popular vote together and they have quite an overlap in policy issues).

Ofcourse the Tories would never accept it and they'll lose any chance of gaining a majority ever again.

 

[scotcheggz]

So I'm guessing England doesn't have a Single Transferable Vote system (though it seems Scotland and N. Ireland do)? Something like that would have probably helped the Liberal Democrats be better represented in parliament, though most politicians loath STV so the chances of it being implemented are slim and none.

Spot　on. This why any sane person wants a government that supports voting reform.

 

[industrian]

Can't wait to see how Paxman tears this woman up.

 

[dakster]

I expect a Con/Lib coalition, or at least some sort of arrangement. Can't see Libs entering coalition with Labour and retaining any honour - or credible plans for deficit reduction.

I agree with this.




Christ I'm meant to be up in an hour and a half, need to get some sleep.

 

[Varion]

So I'm guessing England doesn't have a Single Transferable Vote system (though it seems Scotland and N. Ireland do)? Something like that would have probably helped the Liberal Democrats be better represented in parliament, though most politicians loath STV so the chances of it being implemented are slim and none.

Exactly. Wanting STV is one of the major reasons a lot of people in this thread voted Lib Dem.

 

[scotcheggz]

Can't wait to see how Paxman tears this woman up.

He better not, shes safe, knocked on my door twice during the campaigns and came across properly decent.

 

[sohois]

The Green Mp failed to mention her anti-science credentials.

 

[industrian]

He was gentle to her.

 

[D4Danger]

oh god the paving stones are back

 

[dschalter]

gap between tories and Lab+Lib = 15



Yep, no STV. LD are for STV and if Lab can ally with LD, LD might be able to push for STV as its in both Labour and LD interests (as they hold 50+% of the popular vote together and they have quite an overlap in policy issues).

Ofcourse the Tories would never accept it and they'll lose any chance of gaining a majority ever again.

Pointing out the gap is sort of silly though, because people vote for reasons other than ideology. If you tried to combine the two parties somehow you'd get a huge number of defectors (not saying it would happen, just saying the Lib+Lab combining to prove a point is silly).

 

[Xavien]

I expect a Con/Lib coalition, or at least some sort of arrangement. Can't see Libs entering coalition with Labour and retaining any honour - or credible plans for deficit reduction.

Would never happen, Tory would never agree to STV and LD wants STV so they can have a fair representation in parliament.

 

[scotcheggz]

oh god the paving stones are back

:lol 60FPS or bust Jeremy!

 

[Jonnyram]

Fucking Pudsey. Thought you had more sense. I'm ashamed to be from this neighbourhood.

 

[industrian]

100 seats left to declare, the Tories need 58 of them.

 

[Feathers]

Jesus, first time I've seen the paving stones:lol

 

[Withnail]

Does anybody else find the paving stones really patronising? I'm sure the only people watching now are political nerds who fully understand the situation.

 

[Xavien]

Pointing out the gap is sort of silly though, because people vote for reasons other than ideology. If you tried to combine the two parties somehow you'd get a huge number of defectors (not saying it would happen, just saying the Lib+Lab combining to prove a point is silly).

I was saying about a coalition parliament between labour and LD for the foreseeable future if STV was to be adopted. Not that Labour and LD would combine parties.

 

[D4Danger]

BBC: Nick Griffin's share of the vote went down.

That is really fantastic news.

 

[industrian]

I hope they kept the receipt for that iPad.

 

[giga]

So I have no clue about the UK election system or politics. What’s going on or what’s going to happen? I hear stuff about Conservatives winning? I’m assuming these guys are “lite” Republicans?

 

[industrian]

So I have no clue about the UK election system or politics. What’s going on or what’s going to happen? I hear stuff about Conservatives winning? I’m assuming these guys are “lite” Republicans?

Both the USA parties would probably be considered on equal footing with our Conservatives.

 

[phisheep]

So I have no clue about the UK election system or politics. What’s going on or what’s going to happen? I hear stuff about Conservatives winning? I’m assuming these guys are “lite” Republicans?

That's the common assumption, but in reality the Conservatives are pretty much equivalent to the Democrats and everyone else (in US terms) is pinko commie leftists.

 

[Xavien]

11 seats gap between Tory and LD+Lab

 

[defel]

There will be huge pressure from the labour base to step aside and let the tories/lib dems take power rather than surrender and accept a new voting system. If Labour accept a new voting system then we may get labour for another 5 years but we'll never get a labour majority again.

 

[D4Danger]

Tories need 57 from 96

getting really close now.

 

[Feathers]

Christ, things have slowed right down. I'll give it another 30 mins then I'm off.

 

[industrian]

"Winning Labour candidate in Barking Margaret Hodge tells BNP to "get out and stay out" of the east London constituency, the BBC's Dominic Hurst reports. In her victory speech she says Labour has "smashed" the BNP's attempt to win there and calls it a victory over "fascist politics". The BNP came third and the Conservatives second."

 

[sohois]

MY constituency still hasn't announced. It seems like the results have dried up for the rest of the seats as well, so i'm gonna go to bed finally.

 

[Xavien]

There will be huge pressure from the labour base to step aside and let the tories/lib dems take power rather than surrender and accept a new voting system. If Labour accept a new voting system then we may get labour for another 5 years but we'll never get a labour majority again.

How'd you think that? Conservatives suffer under STV, not labour...?

 

[CrunchinJelly]

Funny how accurate the exit poll is turning out to be. Scarily accurate, in fact.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

That's the common assumption, but in reality the Conservatives are pretty much equivalent to the Democrats and everyone else (in US terms) is pinko commie leftists.

Yeah, which is what makes it funny for most Americans watching, with a working knowledge of English politics, get the feeling that the General Election is sort of like a very active Democratic primary. :lol

 

[defel]

How'd you think that? Conservatives suffer under STV, not labour...?

Im not big on voting systems but afaik if labour accept PR then it will be the end of Labour AND the Tories as we know it.

 

[Big-ass Ramp]

Hi, I'm really clueless, but who is projected to be the prime minister after all of this?

 

[industrian]

I find it funny that I get the London news when watching on the BBC Website. Unless they've changed, the BBC Scotland woman is hot.

 

[D4Danger]

Hi, I'm really clueless, but who is projected to be the prime minister after all of this?

Gordon Brown until a deal is made.

 

[Varion]

"I'm afraid we've usurped your usual breakfast schedule because the election is so fascinating!"

It's okay Dimbleby, you can usurp my breakfast schedule any day.

 

[brain_stew]

There will be huge pressure from the labour base to step aside and let the tories/lib dems take power rather than surrender and accept a new voting system. If Labour accept a new voting system then we may get labour for another 5 years but we'll never get a labour majority again.

STV means we'll never get a Tory majority again and the Tory's don't snatch power in an election they looked nailed on to win. Most Labour party members would jump at the chance of that.

 

[Xavien]

Im not big on voting systems but afaik if labour accept PR then it will be the end of Labour AND the Tories as we know it.

But the tories rely on large sums of money (they have more party funds than any other party in the UK) to push through in battleground seats, with STV that advantage mostly goes away.

 

[Charmicarmicat]

Hi, I'm really clueless, but who is projected to be the prime minister after all of this?

I think technically in a hung parliament Gordon Brown stays on, but there are already rumblings that Labour will try and replace him in that situation as Nick Clegg won't make a coalition with him, but might if they have a new leader.

 

[killer_clank]

Surely Dimbleby will die soon?

 

[defel]

But arent Lib Dems pushing for PR not STV? Wouldnt that be more damaging for labour? I think im missing something.

 

[industrian]

Hi, I'm really clueless, but who is projected to be the prime minister after all of this?

David Cameron will have the mandate to declare himself Prime Minister it if the Tories have the most seats. Unless the Labour and Liberal Democrats can put forward a coalition that has 326 combined MPs then it's not happening for Gordon Brown or Nick Clegg.

 

[Big-ass Ramp]

David Cameron will have the mandate to declare himself Prime Minister it if the Tories have the most seats. Unless the Labour and Liberal Democrats can put forward a coalition that has 326 combined MPs then it's not happening for Gordon Brown or Nick Clegg.

Hmm, ok, thank you very much.

 

[Withnail]

Lib/Lab only about 6 behind Cons at the moment, will be 5 after Clegg gets his seat.

 

[killer_clank]

God this is unbelievably close.

 

[industrian]

This dude sounds like every breath he takes will be his last.

Surely Dimbleby will die soon?

He'll go into his incubation chamber after this for the next 5 years.

 

[Varion]

Well at least Clegg kept his seat. Some small consolation for him? :/