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[painey]

referendum... ♫

 

[Wes]

So Labor probably offering a more guaranteed PR? Conservatives offer a referendum they dont back?

 

[Dambrosi]

Did Brown just implicate that FPTP would not be an option in the referendum?

 

[Veidt]

Up to Clegg to swallow his word and ride it out with Lab now.

 

[navanman]

Now the games can begin!

 

[jorma]

What does a referendum mean in this context?

 

[Withnail]

That stuff about the Euro and G7 meeting was clearly trying to calm the markets.

 

[Empty]

i think the deals with the nationalists is a way more interesting story. lib-lab doesn't have a majority.

 

[Veidt]

What does a referendum mean in this context?

"Trust us, we'll arrange a time to discuss it when we have the chance"

 

[Wes]

What does a referendum mean in this context?

Referendum on changing the electoral voting process from First Past The Post to something incorporating Proportional Representation.

 

[gofreak]

What does a referendum mean in this context?

Would mean that they'd have a referendum on the system of voting to have.

The commitment to 'immediate' provision for this was perhaps interesting. It's probably the strongest offer Labour could make to the Lib Dems.

 

[Xavien]

country gets to vote about if they want PR or not.

If yes, it'll happen next election whenever that'll be

if no, well.. I lose complete and utter faith for the British Public

 

[industrian]

Darling's holding onto his job for dear life in these Eurozone economy meetings.

Speaking of which, does anyone know how to get grease off a laptop? Godamn fried chicken.

 

[Jex]

Cameron will just paint Brown as an obstacle to a secure government.

 

[Veidt]

Darling's holding onto his job for dear life in these Eurozone economy meetings.

Speaking of which, does anyone know how to get grease off a laptop? Godamn fried chicken.

Surface cleaner.

 

[JonathanEx]

Cameron: I think I'm PM therefore I am

 

[industrian]

301 seats to the Conservatives now.

 

[freethought]

What were the front pages like?

 

[industrian]

Cameron: I think I'm PM therefore I am

Like Nick Robinson rightfully said (you have no idea how much it pains me to say that) it worked for Alex Salmond in 2007. The SNP had a majority of 1 seat but the Lib Dems had already made it known they didn't want to work with Labour again so Salmond just instantly set out to make a SNP government with him as First Minister. He offered the Lib Dems and Greens a coalition deal but IIRC both chickened out over the biggest issue in the SNP agenda - the independence referendum. To this day, the SNP maintain a Scottish Parliament with a 1-2 seat majority.

 

[gofreak]

God, those polls really show people don't understand the questions, what's going on.

 

[Jex]

Democracy is for chumps.

 

[Empty]

God, those polls really show people don't understand the questions, what's going on.

well it's a very confusing system.

 

[industrian]

God, those polls really show people don't understand the questions, what's going on.

"Polls, I'm sick of the polls. Cut 'em out, they're not funny. Quit it. Ya know? They're so misleading. I saw this one on CNN one time. 'How many people disapprove of George's Bush's handling of the country?' 70% 'Of these same people, how many will vote for him again in November?' 70% Where the fuck where did they take that, an S&M parlor? 'Ow! Oooh, that hurts! Ow! No, don't stop! Owwwww!'"

 

[industrian]

Matt Frei seems bored. He looks so out of place not talking infront of a bluescreen White House.

 

[JonathanEx]

I don't even know who Matt Frei is talking to.

 

[JonathanEx]

One of these days I might stand for MRLP.

 

[Lucius86]

Why could I not vote for the monster raving looney william hill party

 

[gofreak]

That was an awesome party name. The dancing loony guy.

 

[Empty]

Lib Dems hold! with a bigger majority.

rad.

 

[industrian]

LD's keep their seat. Good job.

I don't even know who Matt Frei is talking to.

Neither does he. :lol

 

[industrian]

One of these days I might stand for MRLP.

I almost got a place on the List for Scottish Socialist MSPs. I was in their student wing, and they said I had good speaking skills and ideas. So if I stayed with them who knows.

Don't laugh, I hate myself too. I was a really far-left lunatic back in my first year of university.

 

[jorma]

country gets to vote about if they want PR or not.

If yes, it'll happen next election whenever that'll be

if no, well.. I lose complete and utter faith for the British Public

Is there any way a vote could be 'no, we like it the way it is'? I mean, even the most diehard tory or labour must admit that a system where 22% of the vote can mean 8% of the parliament mandates is archaic and not really democratic at all :x

I mean it makes sense in a fragmented nation (like the UK used to be i guess) where you need to ensure that every fragment that forms the empire gets representation, and much less sense in a nation where the only viable candidates are the same parties everywhere anyway.

 

[Atrophis]

Fuck me its Mr Benn *bow*

 

[Empty]

tony benn on bbc right now. <3

 

[Dabookerman]

The public brought it on themselves. Yes they fucking have.

 

[blazinglord]

Is there any way a vote could be 'no, we like it the way it is'? I mean, even the most diehard tory or labour must admit that a system where 22% of the vote can mean 8% of the parliament mandates is archaic and not really democratic at all :x

I mean it makes sense in a fragmented nation (like the UK used to be i guess) where you need to ensure that every fragment that forms the empire gets representation, and much less sense in a nation where the only viable candidates are the same parties everywhere anyway.

I think the current situation of uncertainty and the idea that the next government will probably be formed out of the losing parties beholden to nationalist interests in Scotland and Northern Ireland will dampen the enthusiasm for PR. Not to mention that the majority of the right-leaning press will probably mobilise an effective campaign for a No vote.

 

[industrian]

Big Jim Wallace is up. Nice to see that comfy life peerage he's got now hasnae dented his accent.

 

[Empty]

The public brought it on themselves. Yes they fucking have.

kinda annoys me when *every* politician keeps saying that britain voted for a strong government. no they didn't, we voted for a hung parliament.

 

[JonathanEx]

The public brought it on themselves. Yes they fucking have.

It's their fault, they should have all voted Lib Dem.


Now where's my damn pizza, hopefully it turns up before Camerwrong's statement.

 

[Veidt]

Junk food
Loss of sleep
Ranting
pictures of MILFs

Yep.
This is gaf at its purest.

 

[Empty]

yes yes yes. big, strong, lib dem hold.

that was an important seat for lib-lab chances

 

[SmokyDave]

Junk food
Loss of sleep
Ranting
pictures of MILFs

Yep.
This is gaf at it's purest.

What? When? Where? Who?

 

[Atrophis]

Another hold. Look at that swing. Where was this earlier

 

[Dabookerman]

I think a lot of people simply did not vote for lib dem simply because the wasted vote mentality was still going on. Westmorland just won, and the swing for lib dem was huge.

 

[Prine]

urgh, overslept and woke up to bad news.

Waking up earlier would have changed this! Now you know

 

[JonathanEx]

I think a lot of people simply did not vote for lib dem simply because the wasted vote mentality was still going on. Westmorland just won, and the swing for lib dem was huge.

Bloody opinion polls. Polls polls polls. Polls can go fuck themselves.

 

[industrian]

Just for shits and giggles btw, here's the number of seats the main parties would get if their seats were representative of their % of the vote:

Conservatives (36.2%) - 235 seats
Labour - 189 seats
Liberal Democrats - 149 seats
UKIP - 20 seats
BNP - 12 seats
SNP - 11 seats
Green - 5 seats
Plaid - 4 seats
English Democrats (0.2%) - 1 seat

And I don't care about the NI parties.

 

[industrian]

THE GREENSCREEN STAIRCASE STRIKES BACK!

Now where's my damn pizza, hopefully it turns up before Camerwrong's statement.

Still not got your pizza? My fried chicken is digesting as we speak. I've busted out the choco digestives (yeah, you get them in Korea) and beer right now.

Junk food
Loss of sleep
Ranting
pictures of MILFs

Yep.
This is gaf at its purest.

Believe.

 

[industrian]

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[JonathanEx]

THE GREENSCREEN STAIRCASE STRIKES BACK!

With non CG pictureframes for the 3! They should have been virtual just to make it all as awkward as it is.

PIZZA IS HERE.