• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

UK PoliGAF: General election thread of LibCon Coalitionage

Status
Not open for further replies.
X

Xavien

Member
tubgirlsplumber said:
No issue is more important at the moment as the Economic issue.

Electoral reform can wait, avoiding bankrupcy can't.

I look forward to more taxes and less spending (well I don't but you know), because that's the only thing that's going to fix this mess we're in. It's going to be a bitch ... but there's no avoiding it.
Click to expand...

Electoral reform will be shelved for a generation if its put on hold now. The economy isn't that important, Cameron said the markets would run on the pound in the event of a hung parliament... and it hasn't happened, makes you wonder what other economic issues the tories are lying about.

The Tories are feeding the press the economy line to try to take the focus off electoral reform, as long as people are focused on it, the Tories are going to find it very hard to put it off.
 
K

killer_clank

Member
BBC are saying there's been a 'mixed response' from Lib Dems about the deal, although the Live Text says that Conservative MP's have been asked about a referendum on an AV system.

Meanwhile, Gordon Brown might be making a statement later on today, in which he'll say that he'll lead a government which will introduce reform and financial polices, and then he'll step down for someone new to come in.

So, looks like this could still go on for a while yet...
 
S

Sage00

Once And Future Member
It seems the deal between the Tories and Lib Dems is one of "supply and confidence plus". This is the regular "supply and confidence" agreement where the Lib Dems will support measures such as an agreed Budget and Queen's speech, also protecting them against a vote if no confidence. It's effectively a minority government with insurance.

Where the "plus" comes in is instead of voting for/against all Tory legislation issue by issue, they will both have a few bills they will agree to pass for each other, such as tax reform, the schools program, etc. then the rest of the bills the Lib Dems will be free to vote for or against.
 
W

Walshicus

Member
So, this will be the end of all three party leaders? Brown will be forced out as a result of the ConDems; Cameron and Clegg will both suffer at the grass-roots - Clegg for propping up the Tories
[any Liberal candidate who agrees to it has lost my vote]
, Cameron for bending toward them.
 
K

kitch9

Banned
killer_clank said:
I was at primary school in the 90's and we only got milk if you paid for a lunch. Right wing bastards, taking my free milk. :(
Click to expand...

You make me feel old...... Early-mid 80's I was at primary school....
 
V

Varion

Member
Looks like Danny Alenxader will be making another statement in a few minutes. Words 'positive' and 'constructive' expected.
 
J

J Tourettes

Banned
kitch9 said:
You make me feel old...... Early-mid 80's I was at primary school....
Click to expand...

Same here but I hated the fucking warm, disgusting milk. i used to have to pay someone to drink mine or I'd have to sneak it down the sink when the teacher wasn't looking.
 
D

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
Based on Nick Clegg saying he wants a decision by the end of the day, I imagine this statement will have a little more substance.
 
V

Varion

Member
What on earth was that :lol

This really isn't looking like there's going to be an agreement today regardless of what might've been said yesterday.
 
K

kitch9

Banned
J Tourettes said:
Same here but I hated the fucking warm, disgusting milk. i used to have to pay someone to drink mine or I'd have to sneak it down the sink when the teacher wasn't looking.
Click to expand...

I remember we all had the milk in front of us in class, and we weren't allowed to drink it until the teacher said so, not that anybody was looking forward to the milk that had been delivered 8 hours ago and had since been sat in a back corridor all day in the middle of summer....

Has any politics happened yet?!?:lol
 
dr_octagon

dr_octagon

Banned
killer_clank said:
Still saying the same as they were yesterday. Ugh.
Also, why is this being broadcast over mobile phone? The sound quality is DIRE.
Click to expand...
The next stage will be to film Gordon Brown getting happy slapped on a mobile.

Should have just sent a text to all the press - 'no prog, conz r bein slo + frigid, clegg <3, xx'
 
D

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
I think the Tories should come out from their bunker and say something.

It's bound to be electoral reform that's holding things up, and they don't want to comment on it for fear of upsetting their MP's, members and having a rampaging Tebbit on their hands.
 
dr_octagon

dr_octagon

Banned
There aren't any negotiations, I suspect they are just meeting to hit a giant pinata of Blair and Thatcher and they'll make something up last minute.
 
G

ghst

thanks for the laugh
dr_octagon said:
There aren't any negotiations, I suspect they are just meeting to hit a giant pinata of Blair and Thatcher and they'll make something up last minute.
Click to expand...

i prefer the idea of them all caking themselves in white make-up, throwing on a wig and some pantaloons and dancing round whitehall on hobby-horses dropping hankies at the feet of those they fancy and suggestively giggling as they canter away.
 
C

Chinner

Banned
dr_octagon said:
There aren't any negotiations, I suspect they are just meeting to hit a giant pinata of Blair and Thatcher and they'll make something up last minute.
Click to expand...
i heard the negotiations involve clegg, cameron and smokeydave and it involves clegg and cameron throwing darts at a poster of nick griffin while dave cries in the corner saying "he's a very misunderstood invidual! the left wing media agenda have treated him with unfairly!"
 
phisheep

phisheep

NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
Gary Whitta said:
Also, did anyone post this yet? How the 2010 election might have played out if PR had been used. Surprisingly, not all that different...
Click to expand...

Different enough that Labour + Libdems could have formed a government.

Highlights how important this deal is not just in the national interest, but to the Conservatives - because so long as Lab and LD continue to be seen internally and externally as natural allies the outcome would always be a LibLab coalition.

And, no matter how proportional it may be, an electoral system that doesn't actually end up giving you a choice isn't that much of an electoral system.
 
C

Chinner

Banned
Gary Whitta said:
Also, did anyone post this yet? How the 2010 election might have played out if PR had been used. Surprisingly, not all that different...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/data...ortional-representation-general-election-2010
Click to expand...
FTFP is what we currently have. AV is not proportional. STV is the only proportional system there, and its quite drastic.

AV+ is also (more) proportional, not as proportional as STV though. Wish the Guardian had included it. At the moment, AV+ seems like our best chance, and will hopefully act as a stepping stone for a jump to STV sometime in the near future.
 
S

SmokyDave

Member
Chinner said:
i heard the negotiations involve clegg, cameron and smokeydave and it involves clegg and cameron throwing darts at a poster of nick griffin while dave cries in the corner saying "he's a very misunderstood invidual! the left wing media agenda have treated him with unfairly!"
Click to expand...
Actually it's the liberal left elite and their agenda-driven leftist media. But then you'd know that, wouldn't you Goosey, you're part of it. You all are. No wonder these walls are closing in....

Those Winmau darts aren't even 'indigenous' to this island :(
 
G

Gary Whitta

Member
Chinner said:
FTFP is what we currently have. AV is not proportional. STV is the only proportional system there, and its quite drastic.

AV+ is also (more) proportional, not as proportional as STV though. Wish the Guardian had included it. At the moment, AV+ seems like our best chance, and will hopefully act as a stepping stone for a jump to STV sometime in the near future.
Click to expand...
Ah ok. Yeah STV seems to distribute things much more evenly, although still with Tories in first, Labour second, LD third.

Ooh what is Brown going to say?
 
Nicktendo86

Nicktendo86

Member
Shit... all bets are off. I just don't understand how a Lib/Lab coalition would work though, they would need so much support from other parties it would fall apart in days.
 
G

Gary Whitta

Member
Brown was always going to have to leave. It was just a question of sooner or later. Seems like it might be later.

Cameron must be fucking FUMING!
 
D

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
Electoral reform, Brown goes, Lib Dems having influence at cabinet level and getting rid of Labour's authoritarian plans ...

It's like ordering a starter, and then being offered a 5-course meal as a result.
 
M

Mad_Ban

Member
Gary Whitta said:
Brown was always going to have to leave. It was just a question of sooner or later. Seems like it might be later.

Cameron must be fucking FUMING!
Click to expand...
5EAEA6F0-BB02-1907-EE2836C4FFAC8993.jpg
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

  • Locked
[TNYT] Brazil Blocks X After Musk Ignores Court Orders
Social News Community 2
69
5K
ManaByte replied
Satya Nadella: Annual letter to stockholders. Content on new platforms will continue
4 5 6 7 8
352
21K
noob smokes replied
Bobby Kotick, former CEO of Activision, Interested in Buying Tik-Tok
2 3
143
11K
Gameplay Gods Bless replied
Big Business and Government: Grand conspiracy or ramblings of a mad man?
3
2K
Soodanim replied
  • Locked
UK General Election - 8th June 2017 |OT| - The Red Wedding
396 397 398 399 400
20K
2M
chromatic9 replied
Top Bottom