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UK PoliGAF: General election thread of LibCon Coalitionage

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i think this is actually working out very well for the LD's, they get to blame labour's division for ruining the chances on the left so don't upset the activists, they get more than they bargained for with the tories after yesterdays chaos, are allowed the ability to implement key policies on civil liberties and education, get experience in office, and demonstrate coalitions can work in the future. all they need to do is make sure they get a very solid deal for a set period of time so the tories don't fuck them in going for a majority, and sign it quickly before people are upset and it's all good.
 

xbhaskarx

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Burai said:
It's not semantics. That's how FPTP politics works. If you don't pass the post, you don't win.

Okay but the way FPTP politics "works" the LibDems were the biggest losers and Labour were the second biggest losers.
 

Chinner

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Wes said:
Five Live say the rumour on college green is that the deal is done Con/LD.
on bbc breaking news thing:
Number 10 recognises that talks with the Lib Dems have not and will reach not any positive conclusion, and they are now discussing the method of declaring that their side of the negotiation is over, BBC Radio 5 Live's political correspondent Jon Pienaar says.
 

Varion

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Laura's on the BBC now saying large holdall bags are being loaded onto cars at the back of number 10. Sounds like Brown's getting ready to get out!
 

RedShift

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Why do they sometimes blur our Nick Clegg's house number and sometimes not? Its not hard to see it even when they do

its a 2
 

painey

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DonSalvatoreLeone.jpg

"It's over for guys like us!"
 

Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
Ah well, I guess a Labour involved coalition would just be too toxic for the public, press and some Labour MPs. Given the voting system and the result it produced, a LibCon pact is probably the only realistic outcome. Hopefully it will be enough to stop some of the right-wingers from having free reign.
 

ghst

thanks for the laugh
Shanadeus said:
Wait, wat, did the Con accept AV+?

not a referendum on store brand av?

question for ld voters, an election comes around in a year and you live in a liblab marginal, clegg and miliband are the leaders. which way do you go?
 

Chinner

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ghst said:
not a referendum on store brand av?

question for ld voters, an election comes around in a year and you live in a liblab marginal, clegg and milliband are the leaders. which way do you go?
until labour reinvent themselves, i would keep to clegg. miliband is tempting but unless their policies change then its means nothing.
 

curls

Wake up Sheeple, your boring insistence that Obama is not a lizardman from Atlantis is wearing on my patience 💤
I hope its AV+
 

Varion

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"FPTP is the fairest system"

:lol :lol Oh you, mr Conservative.

Edit: And now the Labour guy thinks it would be too difficult for people to work out how to put numbers in boxes.
 

Chinner

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Varion said:
"FPTP is the fairest system"

:lol :lol Oh you, mr Conservative.

Edit: And now the Labour guy thinks it would be too difficult for people to work out how to put numbers in boxes.
The presenter should of said "Are you suggesting members in your constitution are unable to count up to five?"
 

curls

Wake up Sheeple, your boring insistence that Obama is not a lizardman from Atlantis is wearing on my patience 💤
Varion said:
"FPTP is the fairest system"

:lol :lol Oh you, mr Conservative.

Edit: And now the Labour guy thinks it would be too difficult for people to work out how to put numbers in boxes.

Load of bollocks, as long as they explain how it works via TV/internet/media before the election people will get it. It's all about the clarity of information.
 

Nicktendo86

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Huh?

BBC update thing - Confusing signals coming from the Lib Dems. A frontbench Lib Dem source has told the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg that a deal between his party and the Tories will be announced later today. But, in response to the question, "Have the talks collapsed with Labour?" another Lib Dem insider has told our correspondent Mike Sergeant: "No. Our expectation is that talks will continue."
 

iapetus

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ghst said:
not a referendum on store brand av?

question for ld voters, an election comes around in a year and you live in a liblab marginal, clegg and miliband are the leaders. which way do you go?

Why would I not vote LD in such a situation?
 

RedShift

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Supporters of AV etc need to stress the point John Cleese makes in that video Chinner posted

Either - 'Well yes, if you can't count to 5 it is quite confusing'

or - 'Obviously British voters can't handle it, unlike French voters'
 

Empty

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ghst said:
not a referendum on store brand av?

question for ld voters, an election comes around in a year and you live in a liblab marginal, clegg and miliband are the leaders. which way do you go?

i'm pretty happy with how clegg has handled things here, and their manifesto for this election, so lib dem. but it could feasibly change depending on how they handle the next 12 months, the exact deal and how much labour changes over the next year, even if i doubt it.
 

ghst

thanks for the laugh
Nicktendo86 said:
BBC update thing - Confusing signals coming from the Lib Dems. A frontbench Lib Dem source has told the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg that a deal between his party and the Tories will be announced later today. But, in response to the question, "Have the talks collapsed with Labour?" another Lib Dem insider has told our correspondent Mike Sergeant: "No. Our expectation is that talks will continue."

labour talks shutting down is entirely detrimental to ld's position to barter with the tories. it's for this reason that i'm not at all surprised that labour are putting out signals that their talks are over, putting ld's in a difficult position.
 

Varion

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RedShift said:
Supporters of AV etc need to stress the point John Cleese makes in that video Chinner posted

Either - 'Well yes, if you can't count to 5 it is quite confusing'

or - 'Obviously British voters can't handle it, unlike French voters'

:lol :lol
 
Just woke up here in the US and am trying to catch up. Holy crap, this is like a telenovela, how is anyone supposed to keep up with all this intrigue?

I don't get it - how did we go from the Brown ragequit megaton and Libs requesting formal talks with Labour, suggesting the Tory talks were going nowhere, to suddenly it's the Lib/Lab talks that are on the skids and the Tories have the momentum back - all in less than 24 hours?
 

Wes

venison crêpe
Gary Whitta said:
I don't get it - how did we go from the Brown ragequit megaton and Libs requesting formal talks with Labour, suggesting the Tory talks were going nowhere, to suddenly it's the Lib/Lab talks that are on the skids and the Tories have the momentum back - all in less than 24 hours?

Groups of the labour party going... mmm you know what I don't fancy this. Making the LD decision easier.
 

sohois

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Gary Whitta said:
Just woke up here in the US and am trying to catch up. Holy crap, this is like a telenovela, how is anyone supposed to keep up with all this intrigue?

I don't get it - how did we go from the Brown ragequit megaton and Libs requesting formal talks with Labour, suggesting the Tory talks were going nowhere, to suddenly it's the Lib/Lab talks that are on the skids and the Tories have the momentum back - all in less than 24 hours?

The lib/lab talks were probably just a tactic used by the lib-dems to get more out of the conservatives. There wasn't really any suggestion that Tory/lib talks were going nowhere either, some people just assumed that.
 

Chinner

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sohois said:
The lib/lab talks were probably just a tactic used by the lib-dems to get more out of the conservatives. There wasn't really any suggestion that Tory/lib talks were going nowhere either, some people just assumed that.
right wing media.
 

RedShift

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Lol at Lembit making fun of the news guy for switching to Cameron getting in a car.

'You should get the helicopter out to follow him'
 
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