Burai said:It's not semantics. That's how FPTP politics works. If you don't pass the post, you don't win.
BBCLauraK: No 10 sources recognise talks with the libs and labour are over and working out how to declare their side of the negotiation is at an end
on bbc breaking news thing:Wes said:Five Live say the rumour on college green is that the deal is done Con/LD.
Number 10 recognises that talks with the Lib Dems have not and will reach not any positive conclusion, and they are now discussing the method of declaring that their side of the negotiation is over, BBC Radio 5 Live's political correspondent Jon Pienaar says.
Varion said:Laura's on the BBC now saying large holdall bags are being loaded onto cars at the back of number 10. Sounds like Brown's getting ready to get out!
Nicktendo86 said:Bloody hell that's faster than I thought!
Well they blur it out because otherwise someone like me might....RedShift said:Why do they sometimes blur our Nick Clegg's house number and sometimes not? Its not hard to see it even when they do
Nm, brb.RedShift said:its a 2
Thought they were only accepting standard AV?Shanadeus said:Wait, wat, did the Con accept AV+?
RedShift said:I don't see why you'd do a referendum on just AV instead of a preferendum on all forms.
Shanadeus said:Wait, wat, did the Con accept AV+?
Haven't seen any signs of it, BUT, they have gone back to negotiations so who knows?Shanadeus said:Wait, wat, did the Con accept AV+?
Shanadeus said:Wait, wat, did the Con accept AV+?
until labour reinvent themselves, i would keep to clegg. miliband is tempting but unless their policies change then its means nothing.ghst said:not a referendum on store brand av?
question for ld voters, an election comes around in a year and you live in a liblab marginal, clegg and milliband are the leaders. which way do you go?
RedShift said:Why do they sometimes blur our Nick Clegg's house number and sometimes not? Its not hard to see it even when they do
its a 2
The presenter should of said "Are you suggesting members in your constitution are unable to count up to five?"Varion said:"FPTP is the fairest system"
:lol :lol Oh you, mr Conservative.
Edit: And now the Labour guy thinks it would be too difficult for people to work out how to put numbers in boxes.
Varion said:"FPTP is the fairest system"
:lol :lol Oh you, mr Conservative.
Edit: And now the Labour guy thinks it would be too difficult for people to work out how to put numbers in boxes.
ghst said:not a referendum on store brand av?
question for ld voters, an election comes around in a year and you live in a liblab marginal, clegg and miliband are the leaders. which way do you go?
Chinner said:The presenter should of said "Are you suggesting members in your constitution are unable to count up to five?"
ghst said:not a referendum on store brand av?
question for ld voters, an election comes around in a year and you live in a liblab marginal, clegg and miliband are the leaders. which way do you go?
Nicktendo86 said:BBC update thing - Confusing signals coming from the Lib Dems. A frontbench Lib Dem source has told the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg that a deal between his party and the Tories will be announced later today. But, in response to the question, "Have the talks collapsed with Labour?" another Lib Dem insider has told our correspondent Mike Sergeant: "No. Our expectation is that talks will continue."
RedShift said:Supporters of AV etc need to stress the point John Cleese makes in that video Chinner posted
Either - 'Well yes, if you can't count to 5 it is quite confusing'
or - 'Obviously British voters can't handle it, unlike French voters'
Gary Whitta said:I don't get it - how did we go from the Brown ragequit megaton and Libs requesting formal talks with Labour, suggesting the Tory talks were going nowhere, to suddenly it's the Lib/Lab talks that are on the skids and the Tories have the momentum back - all in less than 24 hours?
Varion said:Oh so apparently the bags might've been Darlings? Hmm!
Gary Whitta said:Just woke up here in the US and am trying to catch up. Holy crap, this is like a telenovela, how is anyone supposed to keep up with all this intrigue?
I don't get it - how did we go from the Brown ragequit megaton and Libs requesting formal talks with Labour, suggesting the Tory talks were going nowhere, to suddenly it's the Lib/Lab talks that are on the skids and the Tories have the momentum back - all in less than 24 hours?
right wing media.sohois said:The lib/lab talks were probably just a tactic used by the lib-dems to get more out of the conservatives. There wasn't really any suggestion that Tory/lib talks were going nowhere either, some people just assumed that.