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UK PoliGAF: General election thread of LibCon Coalitionage
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Newspaper politics
(judging by todays papers)
Have I got anybody wrong?
(judging by todays papers)
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Tory:
The Sun>>>>>Daily Express>>>>>Daily Mail>>>Daily Telegraph>>>>>>The Times
Labour:
The Mirror>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The Guardian>>>>>>>FT? (tory readership perhaps)
Lib Dems:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Independent?.
Don't care:
Daily Star
Independent-non affiliate:
Possibly The Independent, although they are typically thought to sit centre leftHave I got anybody wrong?
Ashes1396 said:
I only have read The Times recently(curse no longer being at uni and buying the times, the guardian, and the DT for 75p) and that is way Tory, i dont know how it stacks up against the other papers supporting the Tories. Every day seems to be a new story about what Dave should do.
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From MTuckerNo10:
Dark Machine
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Ashes1396 said:
FT is mostly free market and whatever is best for business really. It also has really good reporting in my opinion and by far the best world news section. (The reason I buy it) also the colour. FT haven't been overly biased towards anyone really, their comment and analysis pages tend to be balanced and much better than other ones I've read. (Times, Guardian, Telegraph) Independant has gone weird since the Russian took over, like they're just utterly indifferent.
Kowak said:
I'm a Scouser and I'm watching it. Liverpool highlights will be on later anyway, football became much less interesting since...around October really. ;_;
Kowak said:
The Times has always been the most centre-right of the papers, it's far less right wing than the telegraph or any of the tabloids. That being said, it has several prominent writers who were former Tory MPs or involved with the party in some way, which maybe why it seemed quite right wing to you.
travisbickle said:
All 3 major parties have backed the principle of tax breaks for the UK games industry. This point, however is not in any of their manifestos. The market value of the games industry is just over £1billion in GDP, this contribution is a big plus factor of which any governement would and should protect and that it doesn't matter which government I chose to vote in or dabookerman choses to vote in we need to support the UK games devlopment with tax breaks.
Its just whether or not it will actually help with the cultural test that would have to occur.
I read The Independent. They generally keep their opinions to the Opinion section, which - coincidentally - has really interesting articles, whether you agree with them or not.Cindres said:
Anybody actually read that Sun article? The entire basis for the claim that Clegg was "stealing Cameron's best lines" was one fucking bullet point saying "DC talks in the language of values - we should do this." What backward morons still buy into this drivel?
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Kowak said:
They had to reschedule the Motherwell v. Hibernian match. For some reason it was scheduled on election day.
Dabookerman
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Mr. Sam said:
Well people who buy The Sun are generally morons.
Dark Machine
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Chinner said:
I saw that you missed out the never before!
Quick edit there Chinny!
Dark Machine
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Chancellor's Debate back on The Daily Politics, BBC2 and Online.
Darling trying to take advantage of his position in the middle. Cable once again saying perfectly sensible things. Meanwhile in Toryland, we're apparently going to be on the phone to the IMF in 9 months.
Darling trying to take advantage of his position in the middle. Cable once again saying perfectly sensible things. Meanwhile in Toryland, we're apparently going to be on the phone to the IMF in 9 months.
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Chinner said:
With a History degree; not that there's much wrong with that particularly, just when you put it next to Cable's CV...yeah.
Dark Machine
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The thing is, as you may have noticed by now. IF you let Cable talk, he always comes up with perfectly logical reasoning behind his decisions. He even managed to explain away an over-eager poster probably made by some guy he's only briefly met. I thought he was in trouble at first...then he just came right back, every time Neil and his girl threw a question he batted it back or fought it off well. The more he spoke (notice the others wern't able to interrupt) the more sense he made. In my (probably biased) opinion.
Osbourne has no fucking clue what he's doing. Even his stupid mate's letter only got him one shot which Cable batted back with a quote from the Inland Revenue.
Also; Clegg was on The World at One, listenable on iPlayer - Radio 4, took calls from about 25 mins in till the end.
Osbourne has no fucking clue what he's doing. Even his stupid mate's letter only got him one shot which Cable batted back with a quote from the Inland Revenue.
Also; Clegg was on The World at One, listenable on iPlayer - Radio 4, took calls from about 25 mins in till the end.
All three of their financial plans are similar, National Insurance is a flash in the pan; the whole thing about the Tories making cuts sooner than later will have a marginal effect; none of the parties will actually implement any real financial regulation because of difficulties of doing it on a global scale. The far more important question is where future growth is going to come from and how the economy is going to move away from financial services to something more sustainable. (Im not watching the debate but I will later)
iapetus said:Unsurprising to see this is your view on things.
Hey i'm technically a swing voter. In the last european elections voted UKIP, in the last council elections voted lib dem, and I can't remember if there was a by-election and probably voted conservative for that.
Chinner said:
It was a long rambling question that roughly said "Can you guarantee that if you're in government either as a majority party or as a member of a coalition government you'll push for immediate review of the state of care for the elderly?"
And the answer was yes.
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Beaten. Debate was much more even between the chancellors this time, Darling really went for it, and Neil (seemingly making up for years of ignoring the Lib Dems) really went for Cable. It is honestly like the press are making up for lost time, digging up all they can about Clegg and the Lib Dems in these last two weeks before the election. I thought Cable was stong when he was allowed to speak without being barracked by Neil. Darling was also strong although I question his policies on the banking sector. Osbourne...seriously what is he doing? Even that secret weapon of a letter from one of his mates didn't do any damage. The guy just doesn't convince me he's got a clue what's going on, he's got as much experience and knowledge of the geopolitical economy as me, and I certainly wouldn't THINK about running the economy right now.
Dark Machine said:
I would say they treated every party fairly but if you look on the bbc's website to compare their policies - its the same colour paint being called three different names.
At this stage the only difference seems:
Labour - centralization of politics
Lib dem - shared balance of power between local government all the away up to the federal state of EP
Conservative - return of direct democracy rather than representative democracy
I mentioned it before, but if you haven't checked out John Harris's election tour series on The Guardian then you definitely should. Good viewing.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/video/2010/apr/21/big-society-conservatives-stourbridge
Latest video is about the Big Society idea and asking people about their faults. It does bring up some issues with the idea when the only person who actually agrees with it only wants the schools to be exclusive for whites.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/video/2010/apr/21/big-society-conservatives-stourbridge
Latest video is about the Big Society idea and asking people about their faults. It does bring up some issues with the idea when the only person who actually agrees with it only wants the schools to be exclusive for whites.
fizzelopeguss
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SmokyDave said:
I am loving this.
Never gonna affect pissheads, too much of a ball ache. And what kind of work, do they want skilled workers cleaning toilets?
BNP are similar in that regard. Having an overarching aim doesn't necessarily make you better, if that aim is a load of crap.sohois said:
Of course BNP are much more detestable than the Cons however. Though to me, this "Big Society" thing doesn't seem like like an admirable aim at all, it seems like it was invented for purely political PR reasons. It smells like it at least.
There are social problems in this country. Too many chavs, too much teenage pregnancy, and other generally irresponsible behaviour, and Labour aven't exactly done a good job with it, but the Cons haven't proposed anything worthwhile either.
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