A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
You have some horrible taste sir.
And get rid of Dormammu too while we're at it.
You have some horrible taste sir.
Donovan ;_;
How is everyone messing with the image?
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Doesn't any character that can dash-cancel grounded normals have better ground movement than Iron Man?
You have some horrible taste sir.
Easy chops I wouldn't mind:I agree with God's Beard. I don't think any character needs chopped.
I don't have photoshop or anything.Selecting the images on the side, Cut/pasting the "fix" and "x" images, and finally plopping the copies down on the faces of the cast.
Hahaha, I think you're alone on that one. I think most people agree that Dormammu is one of the best additions to this game among the newcomers. He has style in spades, and is really unique.And get rid of Dormammu too while we're at it.
I don't have photoshop or anything.
TBH my list of who I would cut is huge.
Chris, both DMC twins, Ryu, Chunners, Sent, Shuma. Yeah I like the Marvel roster.
I think you just have some series hatred. And Sentinel is a classic character in this series - have some respect.TBH my list of who I would cut is huge.
Chris, both DMC twins, Ryu, Chunners, Sent, Shuma. Yeah I like the Marvel roster.
Eh, I typed the list out already.In that case just open it in paint and type either a red X or a blue F (for fix) onto faces to set it up.
Not a lot unless I'm very sure that I want to use the team for a long time. I'd rather be playing.How much time do you guys spend practicing combos for your teams? I'm pretty sure I'm going to be in practice mode for quite a while.
So basically no DMC rep.both DMC twin
*I don't know what to think of She Hulk, Taskmaster and X-23. Gut instinct says to axe them but they were really well made so it's hard to just simply axe them. Depends on who would replace them, I mean if it's She Hulk vs Ms Marvel I might actually pick the latter... or Scarlet Witch/Psylocke over X-23. Or Moonknight over Taskmaster.
There is no way they are getting rid of Ryu. Even for Ken.
I made my list mostly on 2 things. How dumb/boring a character looks and based my decisions around characters that I feel are definite main stays in the eyes of the people that will be making these decisions. You are not getting rid of Captain America I'm pretty sure. So I'm not even going to bother with him/
Yeah I was going to say fix Phoenix by getting rid of DP but that makes no sense.
I'd be like what they did to Jill from MVC2->3
Yeah but Akuma goes in with your second criteria. Akuma is definitely a "main stay" way more than people may give him credit for. The only reason why some people would have a problem against Akuma would be his similarities with Ryu even though he is way more varied and interesting in play style.How dumb/boring a character looks and based my decisions around characters that I feel are definite main stays in the eyes of the people that will be making these decisions. You are not getting rid of Captain America I'm pretty sure. So I'm not even going to bother with him.
I think keeping Akuma in just because he was the character first used in the crossover is a pretty lame excuse. Even though I do like Akuma.
I'm a Shuma-Gorath fan. If he weren't a charge character and had a goddamn consistent bnb, I would use him more.Shuma lovers? You mean there's more than one?
Scratch that, there's one at all?
I'd rather Akuma just start out as Oni. Ken just needs the Evil transformation - that's a lot of work to put into one character that wouldn't ever get utilized otherwise.Ryu should have Ken/Sakura/Gouken/Evil Ryu transformations. Akuma should have an Oni transformation.
Yep, in fact, this entire cast is pretty good at making every character unique. Though I do say that for MvC4, the characters to look at for cutting out first would probably be characters like Shuma Gorath or Nemesis. And there's just no way they're ever cutting out Chun-Li and Akuma though guys.Some of you definitely aren't taking playstyle diversity into account, either. I think Trish offers something pretty unique in this game.
I think Chun-li could be replaced with Cammy if they need another SF girl. Cammy is far more Marvel than Chun-li. I think Chris is still a pretty boring character design in terms of gameplay. Superjump gunshots! I think I just summarized the character and what he offers. Deadpool is much more interesting and has a similar motif going for him.Yep, in fact, this entire cast is pretty good at making every character unique. Though I do say that for MvC4, the characters to look at for cutting out first would probably be characters like Shuma Gorath or Nemesis. And there's just no way they're ever cutting out Chun-Li and Akuma though guys.
I've already said my piece on creature characters.
Shuma-Gorath is the poster boy for a remake. Every Shuma-Gorath fan was hoping he would get one. He's far more like Dormammu or Dr. Strange in the comics. He basically has the ability to make his will into reality in his own dimension, and then has weaker versions of that outside of his dimension. That he just turns into some goofy ball and shoots out eyes is pretty sad.Creature characters are great but on the totem pole of creature characters Shuma should be on the bottom.
I know he's supposed to be the king of some dimension or something, which is great and all but when it comes to a moveset that's not helping him at all. His moveset is that he hits you with tentacles, turns into a spike ball, and shoots a laser on occasion. He plays how he looks for the most part, a squid with an eye in the middle.
Meanwhile we have Ammy and RR who go beyond their appearance. Ammy has a crazy solar plate on her back, she can shoot ice, she's got a sword, etc. Definitely not just some dog. RR has crazy rocket jets, traps, and guns. Definitely not just some raccoon.
I thought she did a lot of this stuff in DMC2 or something.Half of the moves that trish uses aren't even canon to her character, the rest are moves she inherited from the twins like round trip, killer bee, high time and flight. The traps can be given to any number of characters over her... because she isn't some trap master or anything like that.
I also forgot to mention that nova needs to be fixed as well. He needs more cosmic tools.
Agreed, let's remove Vergil.I'd actually be down with letting Trish stay if I didn't feel she brought the DMC representation a bit too high.
I think Chun-li could be replaced with Cammy if they need another SF girl. Cammy is far more Marvel than Chun-li. I think Chris is still a pretty boring character design in terms of gameplay. Superjump gunshots! I think I just summarized the character and what he offers. Deadpool is much more interesting and has a similar motif going for him.
I've already said my piece on creature characters.
Oh don't get me wrong, I feel the same way, I just think Capcom would be more likely to just keep Chun-Li and ADD Cammy, they wouldn't replace the iconic SF female with her though.
And I personally always felt that Sakura was the most Marvel of any of the females, but there's already enough shotos in the VS series as is with Ryu and Akuma.
Shuma
Can all go.
No, I think X-23 and Cammy should play differently. Make Cammy a fast rusher who can has a six way airdash with great speed. I honestly think if X-23 is dropped, they should pick another young Marvel female to replace her just to let people know about said females.
I think She Hulk could be fixed with some buffs to be a unique character who serves as a hybrid of rusher/heavy.
Phylla Vell Quasar.Hmm...young Marvel female to replace X-23...
Restricting Quasar to merely filling X-23's style would be selling her short. She can do all that and a ton of other tricks. She's pretty much Green Lantern and I'd hate to see her potential wasted on a pure rushdown moveset given all the constructs, beams, and flight I'd like to see her do.Phylla Vell Quasar.
I would rather just keep her than transfer her moveset to someone else. If I had to pick a young female: Magik, Hazmat(come on, let's throw all the negative effects on one character), Surge.
If I could backhand you through this screen, I would. Storm is an S Tier character and badass. Her only problem is the man Marvel wed her to.Storm needs to take a hike though. I say replace her with Ms Marvel.
If I could backhand you through this screen, I would. Storm is an S Tier character and badass. Her only problem is the man Marvel wed her to.
This is how you just made me feel:I know Storm is a good character to play as I just feel she's played out by now and if cuts were made I see her being one of the oldest faces in the game and needing to go. She's not making waves, shes just as good as ever and everyone is no longer excited to play her after this long given all the other new and exciting cast they can use. New cast with different tricks filling in for her role of massive air combos queen and damaging hypers that are good for DHC would be a big thing. I say ax her and see how hype people would get for a new character coming in to cover her role with different options to play with. Now theres a role for Phylla Vell Quasar to fill.
Black Panther is actually rising in prominence recently thanks to the cartoon and the comics are supposed to make a move with him soon as well.
This is how you just made me feel:
Edit: Ironic that Storm is one of the three getting crushed...
Storm is probably worse from Vanilla. She had an amazing thing going with the Float -> Assist call. She can't do that anymore, and that was what pretty much separated her from Magneto. Storm had a delay game that he didn't. Now she has these two shitty wind moves that are inferior to Magneto's attraction/repulsion/gravitation. Give her back the float and she'll be used more. Capcom also nerfed her air throw launches and her ground float. Basically, all she got in this were the shitty wind moves and mashable hypers, which everyone else got too. And neither of those are as good as what she lost. Overall, she's a worse character.Sorry, but its kind of how things look. How many teams use Storm these days even though she's good? Everyone is always experimenting with someone else in whatever her slot would have been on their team. Out of the big 3 of MVC2 most folks dropped Sentinel, then Storm. Magneto remained the most used out of the three. Its why I put on my list to chop both Storm and Sent. They're played out with the players and Sent doesn't really work as well as he used to anyways. Time to create newer more exciting movesets for new cast in these roles is my opinion.
In a scenario of ax some and fix the rest I see Storm and Sent needing axed because no one really seemed to care when they tried to fix up Storm, and Sent just doesn't pose as big of a threat these days given chip properties and assist punishing changing. Pop in Phobos to cover the Sent playstyle interest IMO unless you want to use a Marvel slot for that. New titles could change Sent's viability, but I see just axing the two rather than redesigning the two as better. Especially Storm, given they tweaked her once already and no one bothered to care about it. Pretty good sign folks have lost interest in her on the roster in spite of her playability. Ax her.
Storm is probably worse from Vanilla. She had an amazing thing going with the Float -> Assist call. She can't do that anymore, and that was what pretty much separated her from Magneto. Storm had a delay game that he didn't. Now she has these two shitty wind moves that are inferior to Magneto's attraction/repulsion/gravitation. Give her back the float and she'll be used more. Capcom also nerfed her air throw launches and her ground float. Basically, all she got in this were the shitty wind moves and mashable hypers, which everyone else got too. And neither of those are as good as what she lost. Overall, she's a worse character.
People tier whore in this game. Don't confuse tier whoring for a lack of love for the character. Unless a character kills on a touch, and can touch often, people don't use that character. Storm has low damage, and her mix-ups aren't particularly strong compared to Magneto. Sentinel still gets a lot of use, so I don't know what you're talking about there.
It really doesn't make sense to complain about the current state of a character for a future title that could change him, especially when you're setting him against another theoretical character that he could incorporate moves from. Not that Phobos has any chance in the world. There are a lot of Sentinel fans out there. It's not their fault that Capcom nerfed him to assist tier. I tried to use him on point for months before giving up after Magneto took me from 100 to 0 using EMD spam in Vanilla. Sentinel is a unique character in terms of gameplay, and it would be stupid to get rid of that. It would be even more stupid to "gift" his moveset to a new character. Sentinel is Sentinel, and there are a lot of things that can be done to make him better.I just think with Sentinel that replacing him with a guy like Phobos who has good anti teleport stuff like Upward lasers and a smaller hitbox would go over well. Dude can still do all that vicious stuff Sent does, but with fewer problems IMO. Sent's fun, but he's risky and easy to read. He's too easy to punish as an assist character too even if you don't convert. Since Vanilla hit his drones have been way easier to deal with than MVC2 and that punishability and predictableness makes me really eager to see if perhaps they can redesign a new face into his role with fewer weaknesses. Phobos fits IMO, but hey if they want to try with another character thats cool too. I suppose at worst I'd label Sentinel as "fix" instead of "ax", but I like the idea of axing him if they have a good idea in mind for what to fill his role of armored long range normals power house with zoning character with.
You have to keep a core cast though or none of the old players will play. Magneto, Storm, Logan, Cap, Spidey, IM, Hulk, Dr. Doom are those characters for the Marvel side. I would rather just use the models again after improving them if needed by running the base through a higher graphics engine.
And add more characters. Only reason MvC3 didn't do this is going from sprites to models.