A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I'm not too familial with everything about those characters but probably Dante.
Though imo Dante is pretty execution heavy.
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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT2| New Age of Zeroes
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I'm not too familial with everything about those characters but probably Dante.
Though imo Dante is pretty execution heavy.
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It does, but there is precedence for sony exclusivity, fighting game sales are apparently wearing off, Sony is obsessed with exclusive titles and wants as much momentum possible going into next gen.
Unlikely, but not implausible.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I don't know why people thought Ray Ray was going to win. Even if Ray Ray got a lead on Fanatiq he still had his Spencer to lean back on.
I don't think his Spencer is that bad either (though I've only seen it destroying Mike Ross so...)
I don't think his Spencer is that bad either (though I've only seen it destroying Mike Ross so...)
I think when it comes to an effective easy-mode team, Spencer/Wesker/(Forward Assist) is up there. Good synergy, both characters work well with a forward assist (Sentinel, Hawkeye, Taskmaster), and you can get decent damage from magic series (though there's plenty of room for improvement). Spencer/Assist/Wesker may be better, as you take advantage of XF3 Wesker, and you'll probably get a better hyper to DHC into.
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Ray Ray had a great Spencer to practice against, but no Storm.
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Consoles.
Wesker/Vergil/Magneto?
I've tried practicing spencers combos from the official strategy guide for hours on end just to have me near breaking my stick in frustration.
EDIT: Okay, Akuma's BnB's seem hella easy, I'll stick with this for the time being.
crimsonspider89
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Also in a bit, I will do a breakdown of chars I consider to be the synergy kings.
And then later break down potential Marvel characters into the four categories that Nitsuma uses: Technical, Balanced, Power, Quick IIRC.
And from what I hear, Storm was the deciding fact.
And then later break down potential Marvel characters into the four categories that Nitsuma uses: Technical, Balanced, Power, Quick IIRC.
And from what I hear, Storm was the deciding fact.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
It could also easily mean that they're developing on PS3 and Vita first and porting it to 360 later in development, if they really did start Darkstalkers IV, it'd make sense that it's in the very initial stages.
Don't they charge money for patches for Games for Windows Live games? Or am I mistaken?
I took this to mean that since DLC characters are supposedly being released at the Vita version's release, there's likely to be a patch too, which would obviously have this in it.
I would think a balance patch wouldn't require the entire team.
I dunno, everything about it seems rather reasonable and not too crazy.
I dunno, I never really saw Spencer as an easy mode character. A mediocre Spencer can overwhelm mediocre players sure, but using his bnbs aren't too easy for beginners. I've always liked Ryu/Wesker/Hawkeye aka Chris G's old team as a decent beginner team. Ryu's easy to understand, Wesker has the easy combos and the OTG assist to teach that, Hawkeye teaches zoning/using his assist for mixups or getting in. Taskmaster, Wolverine, Akuma, and Sentinel are also good candidates for easy to learn characters. The old easy team of Wolverine/Wesker/Akuma is still really effective today too.
I'm talking EASY mode, ABC launch MMHS into ender easymode. Vergil and Magnus take some effort to get good with, comparatively.
His midscreen combos are hard to do, but that's where Wesker's assist comes into play. And screw BnB's, his magic series does good damage by itself, into OTG assist upgrapple into hyper does ~700k.
Of course they all have hard to do advanced stuff to eek in an extra 100k, but I was trying to list a team that was really easy to pick up and play.
Here's as close as I can get to making a dream roster for a potential Marvel-based game while preserving all of the UMvC3 characters. Ideally, I'd like to cut a few of those guys for redundancy reasons (Mr. Fantastic instead of Super-Skrull), but whatever. Most people want the veterans to come back.
(I'm sorry about the terrible action figure cut-outs.)
Here's how I vaguely imagine the newcomers:
(I'm sorry about the terrible action figure cut-outs.)
Here's how I vaguely imagine the newcomers:
- Daredevil - Speed type; fights primarily with his clubs, similar to Birdie
- Punisher - Standard type; Marvel's version of Chris
- Moon Knight - Standard type; a jack of all trades who can utilize a variety of weapons or fight up close using expert martial arts, similar to Batman
- Green Goblin - Technical type; for the most part, picture Marvel's answer to Firebrand, swooping around on his glider and throwing pumpkin bombs
- Doctor Octopus - Power type; a heavy, lumbering grappler who strikes at the opponent with his tentacles
- Loki - Technical type; besides standard fare magic techniques, his defining characteristic is the ability to cast illusions of himself to confuse the opponent
- Black Panther - Speed type; fights up close using unorthodox African fighting techniques, using a sword or staff as a special move
- Mandarin - Technical type; he can fight using ancient martial arts in the vein of Gen, and he can use the rings on his fingers to cast a number of spells
- Red Skull - Standard type; carries a pistol, holds out the Cosmic Cube for a number of different special moves, and uses the infamous Dust of Death as a level 3 hyper combo
- Black Widow - Speed type; think Jill meets Cammy meets C. Viper
- Blade - Speed type; primarily a katana user combining qualities of Vergil and Karas, but he uses other weapons as well
- Howard the Duck - Speed type; a small, agile kung fu master with over the top animations, with a play style inspired partly by Polimar and Rufus
RayRay vs Fanatiq Post-Match Analysis
Like I said a long time before the match took place (like weeks in advance), my heart says RayRay is going to win but my theory fighter brain says Fanatiq is going to win. What that basically meant that I WANTED RayRay to win based on his style, execution and level of tech that he possessed plus the general talent he brings to the table. But my theory fighter brain put other qualities above them and those were experience, nerves and fundamentals.
Big money matches have a whole extra level of meta game to it which is the general psychology of a long set. 2 loses that involved mostly data collection could be the difference between a win and a lose. You are able to find more kinks in someone's armor in a long set and those who find those kinks start hacking away at them. Fanatiq found the kink in RayRay and that was his overzealous use of mobility options. RayRay is known for his godly mobility and spacing with both Magneto and Sentinel but this comes at a cost and that is that whenever he is doing an air dash Magnetic Blast without properly placing a Blast or properly placing a j.M/j.H Sentinel air normal he is vulnerable to air throws. Fanatiq picked up on this tendency and pulled out numerous clutch wins. About 7 games into the set it was anyone's game and it was clear at that point they were evenly matched on a skill level. The difference was that because Fanatiq had downloaded RayRay more than RayRay had downloaded Fanatiq, he was able to pull off more clutch wins which hit on RayRay's match psychology. Fanatiq was also completing more combos than RayRay equating to more characters dead and more morale in his favor. I also feel that RayRay might have felt the pressure of the crowd and got the hype plus initial wins get to him.
The match might have been a blow out on paper but so much stuff happened in the game that pleased me greatly. The superb match up knowledge that both players had on each other's Magneto and Sentinel was a treat to watch as they were fighting for every inch of real estate on that screen, fighting for every pixel and reacting to every movement and set up. The difference ended up being the synergy of the teams and the lack of match up knowledge on the two secondary characters on the team: Ryu and Storm. Fanatiq clearly had not played a Ryu of this caliber and underestimated Ryu's mix up and footsie capabilities. He was trying to play footsies with Ryu and got happy birthday'd by him WAY too many times showing a lack of respect for the character. Finally Fanatiq gave the character the respect he deserved and even on a few occasions X factor killed him to get the incoming mix up on Magneto and these combos he clearly had practiced before as they did just the right damage of 1 million to finish off Ryu. RayRay also lacked respect for Storm and underestimated her general speed, she was zipping around Sentinel like a fly always getting underneath him to either scoop him or mix him up ... same for his Magneto and even Ryu. If there was one character in Fanatiq's team that made the difference it was Storm for sure. She did a shit ton of work, from pulling clutch wins, to maintaining life leads to punishing assists for a massive lead. In a battle of attrition, Storm ended up being a valuable partner.
I also felt that because RayRay had Magneto 2nd a lot of the times he didn't get to play Magneto because he died to a brutal incoming mix up. Fanatiq always got to play his Magneto and got to set the tone of the match. Ryu did a lot of work but Magneto failed to pull through when his team needed him the most. RayRay also relied too much on his anchor Sentinel and saved XF for him rather than burning it on Magneto. Fanatiq had the match up against Sentinel down pat, he didn't fall into any of his gimmicks or mix ups but instead RayRay fell against Fanatiq's Sentinel more than a couple times despite having a big advantage early on. RayRay had great offensive tech but his defense was lacking which was another aspect of RayRay's overall play that Fanatiq capitalized off of. Both his air throw game and general blocking was not up to par with Fanatiq's which ended up making the difference alongside key match up inexperience against Storm. Another difference in the two was like I mentioned earlier was combo completion. Although RayRay finished a majority of his combos with Ryu he missed quite a few Magneto combos possibly going for the most damaging combo when a lesser, easier combo would've sufficed. Fanatiq almost always went for just as much damage he needed for the easiest combo possible (a lot of the times with Storm he just did launcher, j.H, j.S Hailstorm to finish off a character).
Overall the match was played impeccably by both players as they truly proved they were near masters of their characters and teams. I enjoyed watching these masters at work and IMO the score difference is much larger than it should've been as RayRay truly dropped at least 5-6 easily won matches. But clutch play is clutch play and hats off to Fanatiq for an impressively solid showing both in fundamentals and technical execution. I really hope that RayRay doesn't quit and recovers from this crushing loss as he has immense potential to push this game even further than he already has. He is a tech wizard but with more match experience he can be a more complete player.
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R version:
*Their Magneto and Sentinels were generally equally matched but Fanatiq was able to use Magneto + Drones more often because RayRay had Magneto 2nd which meant he usually died to incoming mix ups
*RayRay underestimated Storm and lost a lot of matches to her. Match up inexperience was showing. Probably the biggest match decider in the set in terms of character vs character meta game is concerned.
*Fanatiq underestimated Ryu and lost a few matches because of it. He adjusted by using X factor to kill Ryu or burned just enough meter to end him plus he respected the character more in terms of not messing with his normals or aerial Tatsu. His initial 2 losses were there to download RayRay's Ryu tech although RayRay still had more tricks up his sleeves
*Nerves got to RayRay due to getting himself hyped up by 2 early wins, huge crowd backing him up and his eventual dismantling
*Combo completion was a major factor in the match psychology, Fanatiq clearly edged out RayRay here
*RayRay's overuse of mobility options got him air thrown a lot. He started being more cautious late into the set but he was clearly playing outside of his comfort zone
*Fanatiq had better defense than RayRay which allowed him to stay alive and clutch out wins. Fanatiq did exactly what he said he was which was he won on fundamentals.
Like I said a long time before the match took place (like weeks in advance), my heart says RayRay is going to win but my theory fighter brain says Fanatiq is going to win. What that basically meant that I WANTED RayRay to win based on his style, execution and level of tech that he possessed plus the general talent he brings to the table. But my theory fighter brain put other qualities above them and those were experience, nerves and fundamentals.
Big money matches have a whole extra level of meta game to it which is the general psychology of a long set. 2 loses that involved mostly data collection could be the difference between a win and a lose. You are able to find more kinks in someone's armor in a long set and those who find those kinks start hacking away at them. Fanatiq found the kink in RayRay and that was his overzealous use of mobility options. RayRay is known for his godly mobility and spacing with both Magneto and Sentinel but this comes at a cost and that is that whenever he is doing an air dash Magnetic Blast without properly placing a Blast or properly placing a j.M/j.H Sentinel air normal he is vulnerable to air throws. Fanatiq picked up on this tendency and pulled out numerous clutch wins. About 7 games into the set it was anyone's game and it was clear at that point they were evenly matched on a skill level. The difference was that because Fanatiq had downloaded RayRay more than RayRay had downloaded Fanatiq, he was able to pull off more clutch wins which hit on RayRay's match psychology. Fanatiq was also completing more combos than RayRay equating to more characters dead and more morale in his favor. I also feel that RayRay might have felt the pressure of the crowd and got the hype plus initial wins get to him.
The match might have been a blow out on paper but so much stuff happened in the game that pleased me greatly. The superb match up knowledge that both players had on each other's Magneto and Sentinel was a treat to watch as they were fighting for every inch of real estate on that screen, fighting for every pixel and reacting to every movement and set up. The difference ended up being the synergy of the teams and the lack of match up knowledge on the two secondary characters on the team: Ryu and Storm. Fanatiq clearly had not played a Ryu of this caliber and underestimated Ryu's mix up and footsie capabilities. He was trying to play footsies with Ryu and got happy birthday'd by him WAY too many times showing a lack of respect for the character. Finally Fanatiq gave the character the respect he deserved and even on a few occasions X factor killed him to get the incoming mix up on Magneto and these combos he clearly had practiced before as they did just the right damage of 1 million to finish off Ryu. RayRay also lacked respect for Storm and underestimated her general speed, she was zipping around Sentinel like a fly always getting underneath him to either scoop him or mix him up ... same for his Magneto and even Ryu. If there was one character in Fanatiq's team that made the difference it was Storm for sure. She did a shit ton of work, from pulling clutch wins, to maintaining life leads to punishing assists for a massive lead. In a battle of attrition, Storm ended up being a valuable partner.
I also felt that because RayRay had Magneto 2nd a lot of the times he didn't get to play Magneto because he died to a brutal incoming mix up. Fanatiq always got to play his Magneto and got to set the tone of the match. Ryu did a lot of work but Magneto failed to pull through when his team needed him the most. RayRay also relied too much on his anchor Sentinel and saved XF for him rather than burning it on Magneto. Fanatiq had the match up against Sentinel down pat, he didn't fall into any of his gimmicks or mix ups but instead RayRay fell against Fanatiq's Sentinel more than a couple times despite having a big advantage early on. RayRay had great offensive tech but his defense was lacking which was another aspect of RayRay's overall play that Fanatiq capitalized off of. Both his air throw game and general blocking was not up to par with Fanatiq's which ended up making the difference alongside key match up inexperience against Storm. Another difference in the two was like I mentioned earlier was combo completion. Although RayRay finished a majority of his combos with Ryu he missed quite a few Magneto combos possibly going for the most damaging combo when a lesser, easier combo would've sufficed. Fanatiq almost always went for just as much damage he needed for the easiest combo possible (a lot of the times with Storm he just did launcher, j.H, j.S Hailstorm to finish off a character).
Overall the match was played impeccably by both players as they truly proved they were near masters of their characters and teams. I enjoyed watching these masters at work and IMO the score difference is much larger than it should've been as RayRay truly dropped at least 5-6 easily won matches. But clutch play is clutch play and hats off to Fanatiq for an impressively solid showing both in fundamentals and technical execution. I really hope that RayRay doesn't quit and recovers from this crushing loss as he has immense potential to push this game even further than he already has. He is a tech wizard but with more match experience he can be a more complete player.
TL
R version: *Their Magneto and Sentinels were generally equally matched but Fanatiq was able to use Magneto + Drones more often because RayRay had Magneto 2nd which meant he usually died to incoming mix ups
*RayRay underestimated Storm and lost a lot of matches to her. Match up inexperience was showing. Probably the biggest match decider in the set in terms of character vs character meta game is concerned.
*Fanatiq underestimated Ryu and lost a few matches because of it. He adjusted by using X factor to kill Ryu or burned just enough meter to end him plus he respected the character more in terms of not messing with his normals or aerial Tatsu. His initial 2 losses were there to download RayRay's Ryu tech although RayRay still had more tricks up his sleeves
*Nerves got to RayRay due to getting himself hyped up by 2 early wins, huge crowd backing him up and his eventual dismantling
*Combo completion was a major factor in the match psychology, Fanatiq clearly edged out RayRay here
*RayRay's overuse of mobility options got him air thrown a lot. He started being more cautious late into the set but he was clearly playing outside of his comfort zone
*Fanatiq had better defense than RayRay which allowed him to stay alive and clutch out wins. Fanatiq did exactly what he said he was which was he won on fundamentals.
I know that feel. Basically you have to be able to TK and Super jump cancel ALOT with Spencer. Overall hes easy but you need that on point. I still fuck up my inputs with Spencer and ive considered dropping him multiple times.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Just thought I would throw my hand at this. A list of synergy kings. These are characters that thrown on a team automatically creates synergy. AKA the whores of the game.
One True King
Dante- Goes with everybody, goes every position, yeah, adds synergy anywhere.
The Seven Kings
Ammy- Cold stars, two great DHCs, GREAT anchor, good point character.. arf arf.
Doom- ALL FALL BENEATH DOOM. Has two good assists, great DHC out and easy DHC to finish people off but only alright point.
Akuma- I think we all know why. YOU ARE BENEATH ME!
Strider- Vajira, orbs, insane mix ups..... I think we all understand the scarf wielding techno ninja
Magneto- I AM THE LEADER OF THE BROTHERHOOD, MASTER OF MAGNETISM, disruptor, shockwave, tempest, anchor potential, any more?
Taskmaster- Solid point, great assist, good DHC, WHERE IS MY CASH?
Hawkeye- Makes any team better. Great DHC into/out, good point. Good assist
The Lesser Kings
Vergil
IM
Strange
RR
Storm
Sent
Yeah all I got at the moment.
One True King
Dante- Goes with everybody, goes every position, yeah, adds synergy anywhere.
The Seven Kings
Ammy- Cold stars, two great DHCs, GREAT anchor, good point character.. arf arf.
Doom- ALL FALL BENEATH DOOM. Has two good assists, great DHC out and easy DHC to finish people off but only alright point.
Akuma- I think we all know why. YOU ARE BENEATH ME!
Strider- Vajira, orbs, insane mix ups..... I think we all understand the scarf wielding techno ninja
Magneto- I AM THE LEADER OF THE BROTHERHOOD, MASTER OF MAGNETISM, disruptor, shockwave, tempest, anchor potential, any more?
Taskmaster- Solid point, great assist, good DHC, WHERE IS MY CASH?
Hawkeye- Makes any team better. Great DHC into/out, good point. Good assist
The Lesser Kings
Vergil
IM
Strange
RR
Storm
Sent
Yeah all I got at the moment.
crimsonspider89
Banned
See Dante is better on point and as an anchor and has better DHCs overall as well as THC unblockable with million dollars.
Ya, the one thing I hate most of all is practicing for hours on end and feeling as if you're not making any progress. I feel that with Spencer. Mag is hard, but When I practice with him I feel as if I'm getting a better hang of his combos every time.
Face it Tiger..
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crimsonspider89
Banned
Alright gonna try to analyze objectively the characters that Mahvel could add in each of the categories.
Power: Cage(blah), Thanos, Hank Pym(movie incoming), Namor(really big player in AvX), Colossus, Thing
Pixie/Quick: Black Widow, Black Panther, Wasp, Daredevil, Mr. Fantastic, Carnage, Quicksilver
Balance: Gambit(new solo comic), Cyke, Ms. Marvel, Quasar, Human Torch, Ultron
Technical: Rogue, Emma, Scarlet Witch
This is all I have for now. But also hope they inject some new blood in the game in the form of some of the newer X-Men or Academy kids. And of course a non humanoid...... Man-Thing could be it, but unsure.
Power: Cage(blah), Thanos, Hank Pym(movie incoming), Namor(really big player in AvX), Colossus, Thing
Pixie/Quick: Black Widow, Black Panther, Wasp, Daredevil, Mr. Fantastic, Carnage, Quicksilver
Balance: Gambit(new solo comic), Cyke, Ms. Marvel, Quasar, Human Torch, Ultron
Technical: Rogue, Emma, Scarlet Witch
This is all I have for now. But also hope they inject some new blood in the game in the form of some of the newer X-Men or Academy kids. And of course a non humanoid...... Man-Thing could be it, but unsure.
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As in "Heathcliff"
So Wii isn't console?
Tizoc
Member
Thanks~
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It's just a joke. I'm salty because I want to play Skyward Sword but I'm not buying a console for one game.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
My point still stands. TVC doesn't count because something something the wii is similar to the arcade thing they used something something pr bullshit.
Oh ok, though I gotta admit, it's funny that you say this when I mostly bought my 360 to play Marvel.
Gonna grab some other things for it when I get the chance though.
Play it on the Dolphin. I plan on doing the same with Xenoblade and The Last Story when I get a chance.
I'm having the exact same dilemma.
Yes I noticed this too and it showed the match up experience that Fanatiq had on Sentinel. RayRay's mix ups and footsies didn't phase Fanatiq at all where as most other players would get bopped by something.
Karsticles
Member
Spencer is, and always has been, one of the most brainless characters in the game. How else can you think of a character that gets in for free with frame advantage by pushing two buttons?
I like the action figures. None of the new characters interest me, but I'd still buy it for Dormammu and good gameplay. No Dormammu, and I'm unlikely to purchase it.Here's as close as I can get to making a dream roster for a potential Marvel-based game while preserving all of the UMvC3 characters. Ideally, I'd like to cut a few of those guys for redundancy reasons (Mr. Fantastic instead of Super-Skrull), but whatever. Most people want the veterans to come back.
(I'm sorry about the terrible action figure cut-outs.)
Here's how I vaguely imagine the newcomers:
- Daredevil - Speed type; fights primarily with his clubs, similar to Birdie
- Punisher - Standard type; Marvel's version of Chris
- Moon Knight - Standard type; a jack of all trades who can utilize a variety of weapons or fight up close using expert martial arts, similar to Batman
- Green Goblin - Technical type; for the most part, picture Marvel's answer to Firebrand, swooping around on his glider and throwing pumpkin bombs
- Doctor Octopus - Power type; a heavy, lumbering grappler who strikes at the opponent with his tentacles
- Loki - Technical type; besides standard fare magic techniques, his defining characteristic is the ability to cast illusions of himself to confuse the opponent
- Black Panther - Speed type; fights up close using unorthodox African fighting techniques, using a sword or staff as a special move
- Mandarin - Technical type; he can fight using ancient martial arts in the vein of Gen, and he can use the rings on his fingers to cast a number of spells
- Red Skull - Standard type; carries a pistol, holds out the Cosmic Cube for a number of different special moves, and uses the infamous Dust of Death as a level 3 hyper combo
- Black Widow - Speed type; think Jill meets Cammy meets C. Viper
- Blade - Speed type; primarily a katana user combining qualities of Vergil and Karas, but he uses other weapons as well
- Howard the Duck - Speed type; a small, agile kung fu master with over the top animations, with a play style inspired partly by Polimar and Rufus
I don't think Storm deserves to be there. Unlike the other choices, her assists are pretty weak.
I got my PS3 for Marvel, with the bonuses being The Last Guardian (FML) and Valkyria Chronicles.Oh ok, though I gotta admit, it's funny that you say this when I mostly bought my 360 to play Marvel.
Gonna grab some other things for it when I get the chance though.
Your avatar is weird now.
SolarKnight
Member
? Unless she was telling him to torrent those games and I didn't get to see it, not really. I mean, there's a thread dedicated to Wii emulation after all.
And yeah, what's up with your avatar's colors?
Oh ok, though I gotta admit, it's funny that you say this when I mostly bought my 360 to play Marvel.
I originally got a 360 just because of SNK games. True story.
SolarKnight
Member
Oh, I imagined it had something to do with Magnus but I didn't get it until you pointed it out.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Storm though has a really great DHC in hail storm that also can function with THC shenanigans.
Only reason I put her there.
Only reason I put her there.
SolarKnight
Member
Yeah, Storm's THC potential is pretty good, it's both full screen and OTGs, there's not a single character that doesn't get helped by that (or if there is I can't think of it).
Well it implies not buying a console in order to play a game, which kind of implies not buying the disc (license) either which makes it legal.
Just giving the heads up because these are grey matters and mods are pretty unforgiving. Not usually worth taking the risk.
And yeah it's supposed to be Mag-fuckin-neto. Made it for the RayRay/Fanatiq MM yesterday
Karsticles
Member
I understand, it's just that every other character on that list has a good DHC and has great assists, and while her DHC is top tier, I don't think it's enough to make up for her lack of a good assist, which is why she doesn't get used often.
Plus Monster Hunter.
crimsonspider89
Banned
No that isn't. You can buy discs and use an emulation and not own a console for it. A lot of people do it.
I stand corrected.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Wow I didn't even know that.
I already have a Wii so eh, though.
Actually Galaxy 2 in 720p sounds hot.
Karsticles
Member
Is there a link to the Fanatiq/RayRay MM?
Would Mephisto interest you? I know that you like Dormammu, Morrigan, and Firebrand, and Mephisto fits in with those three perfectly. He's easily the most referenced character in the series' history to not be made playable.
- MSH Blackheart ending - http://i.imgur.com/oC2L8.gif
- MSH stage cameo - http://i.imgur.com/yvSex.png
- MSHvSF palette swap character - http://rq87.flyingomelette.com/RQ/Marvel/MSHSF/meph.html
- MvC3 Morrigan ending - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x4cps83jzU
- UMvC3 Heroes & Heralds card - http://i.imgur.com/o7rR5.png
- UMvC3 Dante ending - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsbDhDqQJ20
- UMvC3 Ghost Rider ending - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTtko9V2stc
Also someone on SRK came up with a statistical breakdown of the RayRay vs Fanatiq match:
Really surprised to see that Fanatiq actually dropped more combos. This means that he was getting way more hit confirms than RayRay and completed the combos that mattered.
No surprise that both player's secondary characters of Ryu and Storm did the most work. Storm had the most kills out of all 6 characters.
And Viscant drops his thoughts on the MM:
Karsticles
Member
Good post by Viscant, and thank for the link DB.
Pre-UMvC3 release, I thought Lupinko was hinting toward Mephisto instead of Firebrand, and I was pretty hyped (all the clues lined up).
You can see how he was made up in Marvel Ultimate Alliance here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je1Wy5PRtIU
Not the most creative, but I think it shows how he could be his own thing.
Oh yeah, I'm all about Mephisto. It might seem like I just love demons (which I do), but I really just love characters that do everything through their natural prowess. No tools. Hence Chris is probably the most unattractive character in this game to me, but I love Shuma-Gorath, Dormammu, Morrigan, and Firebrand. Dr. Strange is kind of in a middle section because he's technically using artifacts as I understand it, but they only work because he's so talented with magic. Dr. Doom is just past where I find the distinction enjoyable - too techy for my tastes. It might seem like I just love villains (and I do!), but the fact is that its always villains who tend to have natural power, while heroes tend to have lots of tools to overcome their natural weakness, so the player can sympathize with their perspective. That's why I'd love to have Rathalos and Nina in this game - one which is amoral, and the other a good guy, but has only natural power.
Pre-UMvC3 release, I thought Lupinko was hinting toward Mephisto instead of Firebrand, and I was pretty hyped (all the clues lined up).
You can see how he was made up in Marvel Ultimate Alliance here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je1Wy5PRtIU
Not the most creative, but I think it shows how he could be his own thing.
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