Why can Vergil wavedash without crouch-canceling? Seriously. Just hold forward and mash on your dash macro and it works.
Haha. Someone on GFAQs made a post about this and it blew my mind.Why can Vergil wavedash without crouch-canceling? Seriously. Just hold forward and mash on your dash macro and it works.
Ghost Rider has his huge normals. I'm not looking to open people up. I honestly don't think Ghost Rider excels at it and ever well. I'm looking to chip people down over time.
That's why I am thinking about Haggar over Iron Man. People duck the Double Lariat and I get to land Ghost Rider's level 3.
I think people are already going to be trying to air throw Chun-li. People rarely stay on the ground these days, I can only recommend low hitting assists for characters that can really, really make them work.
6 frames for a recent range low is fine. She's the fastest character in the game, so I don't think it's that big of a deal. Yeah, her big thing is air dashing past people while calling the assist. I'm not saying she's Vergil tier or anything, just that I think she has good stuff going for her.
It would be awesome if it worked for any character that has a command normal. Dormammu would have a wavedash! :-O
I think the damage there would be minimal, and as a rule I don't use assists purely for combo extension. Most characters can do good damage alone. It's just laziness that makes people pick Wesker, etc. That's not to say that they aren't good, and you don't get more damage. I just prefer to do the character's combos.
?Why do you think he made the video? The account is under Saitsuofleaves, whom is a SRK poster, and IIRC Serpentaurus' SRK account is Serpentaurus. Also, this is why low tier players drive me nuts. Lots of complaining, but almost no work put into their character to see what they can actually do. Good for Abegen. This could have been discovered way back in Vanilla.
Chun-li has three things going for her that rushdown characters like Wolverine don't.Chun is aight, can get 700K+ off an IOH or low, I believe. Stupidest unnecessarily hard air throw combos this side of SJ height Iron Man though (and Tony's aren't that bad with some practice), don't really get why because they don't do great or even good damage.
The invincibility and reversals are good to have, but it's really hard to find her niche, especially since a ton of other characters have more oppressive high-low-throw games. I guess they were kinda going for that with her, since her throw range can be pretty silly, and tried to spice it up with some invincibility/beefy leg hitboxes/reversals, but I don't know how good that whole package is in the long run tbh.
A practical reason for running her is her main problem. Slightly above average to below average pretty much across the board as a character, which sucks, because it's Chun. What does she do better than anyone else other than be Chun-Li
Also good stuff smurf on getting dat GALACTUS power. Still trolling in my master rank, hahaha.
Chun Li also has a fireball she can sort of approach under, an air dash plus triple jump and lots of great reversal options. She would be a great character if she had some godly mix ups. Her damage wouldn't be as big of an issue if she consistently got hits on you.
No problem. I think Saitsuofleaves got pretty angsty after a while. He was always an angry guy.
Calling any of her assists "great" is a stretch, and (3) isn't that impressive because you damn well ought to be killing off of a TAC with any character anyway.
Yeah, TACs lead to character kills if you want to burn meter. An infinite is still worth talking about because it doesn't burn meter. Her lockdown is one of the longest in the game - maybe it is the longest if you don't include Tenderizer, which isn't very good for lockdown generally. If you just want to say it's "good", fine. The point is that Wolverine, etc. have trash for assists, and she doesn't.
Yeah, you can.
That's how I see the Iron Fist team, too.
use training mode to its fullest. if anything is giving you problems then record it in training mode and then find counters. i still don't use training mode as much as i should but since you are starting fresh you should make it a habit to exploit it. other than that make sure to practice your combos till they become a part of you and you won't panic when you get a hit confirm against somebody.
Basic fighting game 4-step plan:
A lot of characters have a TAC thing like that. Weird stuff. Firebrand has one I think. It's very fidgety.
Watch competitive play for your characters, and stick to one team until you feel comfortable with them before experimenting around.
I love watching people who clearly put the time into this game, and are always aware. Slightly too far for hyper to hit? Immediately DHC. X-factored? Take advantage of xfactor only combos. Going to cross-up mid combo? Adjust, keep the combo going. And awesome use of that Iron Man assist.
what is your team?
make sure to use arthurs projectile assist to cover you so he doesn't just punish you when you are zoning. plus don't just zone him with task either. mix it up so you don't become predictable.
You can check youtube as well as I can. ;-)
A couple of things can help you when trying to zone Vergil:
Spencer's really easy. What are you having problems with?
Good to know. I might make a Spencer team later on. I spend about 3 hours in training mode with Chun-li and Frank West today. Chun-li has double overheads that are hard as heck to do (d+M right as you leave the ground, dash cancel into j.H). I can now do a 400K meterless combo with her 25% of the time, lol. Goddamn she's a lot of work. Then I went into training mode to mess with Vergil and just did c.LMHSHS, sj.MMHS and got 400K. -_-
you just have to play around with daggers and tasks zoning and time it so he can't just teleport behind you. learn to use shield skills and then call in daggers and cancel into either arrows or sting master. it will let you chip him down and pressure him. daggers cause a bunch of hitstun when you land them so that will give you enough time to punish any of his characters.
Wow, thanks! That's actually extremely helpful. And when you say to do an empty jump back while calling assist to get a free combo, do you mean punish him during the recovery of the teleport?
No clue, but I bet the SRK forums have it all taken down. I don't think you should worry too much about his best combos if you're just learning him. ABCs will get you far with Spencer. c.LMHS, sj.MMHS, qcf.S gets you 600K.
Don't feel bad about it. The game is about having fun, nothing more. If character difficulty mattered, we'd all be Chun-li, Shuma-Gorath, Morrigan, and Jill mains. As long as you like who you play, that's all that matters. I also think Spencer is a lot of fun to play, and BIONIC AAAAARM is just as satisfying to hear today as it was on release. You could have a character that's easy as hell to play and boring to boot. ;-)all this talk about how spencer is soooo easy makes me feel very fradulent
Yup! It especially helps if you consistently jump back into arrows against non-teleporters, so the Vergil player will think he's just being smart and catching your bad habit.
Ah, well I usually just go straight into Bionic Arm after the wall bounce to save myself the trouble, haha. One thing I've noticed when I do extend the combo, though is that Spencer recovers way faster from the zip kick than you would think. Maybe that will help?