Aren't there ways to make it hard for Firebrand to followup? In the first video I saw of it I thought they said it's harder for the Firebrand to combo off of it if you get hit by the assist instead of blocking. Though I think they were using Tenderize in the video.
It really depends on my execution and the latency. Off of a snap-in, if I do it perfectly getting hit by it won't make a difference at all. If I botch the job then you might fall into a soft knockdown and miss the swoop.
The Stalking Flare setup doesn't have this problem though, because I wait until I see my opponent is blocking before I call Dark Hole to pin him, and its just continuing off of Stalking Flare's blockstun. If my opponent doesn't block Stalking Flare then I just combo him anyway.
Tenderizer is really, really finicky. So finicky that I honestly thought it didn't work if your opponent gets hit by it when I tried it in training mode several times. I know there's a lot of speculation about the Tenderizer setup, but even players who use Firebrand/Skrull don't go for it because if you screw it up you just lost a bar for nothing.
Plus, Firebrand only does like 300K off of the combo he gets if you use Tenderizer and your opponent gets hit. So if you want to kill two characters with 1 million health, you're looking at repeating the snapback loop perfectly
at least 8 times to kill a character, and maybe more because while you're doing the snapback loop on one character, the other one is regaining red health. Plus your opponent gets a ton of meter from all this, and you're spending 1 bar per 300K combo. Firebrand isn't generating positive meter during all of this, either.
I hesitate to call the Tenderizer setup overrated, but the people it impresses the most are definitely not the people who play Firebrand, haha.
As Hulk if you are in an unblockable situation on the ground, you can X Factor Gamma Crush to get out of it and also damage him in the process. But then you would be free to Dorm X factor chip so really you have be using crossover counters.
I agree with Karsts that a lot of rules and mechanics of TACs are poorly understood. What I know today is completely different from what I knew about it yesterday.
Also is this related to the Doom tech?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSXO3C1qljo
Naw, he won't hit me. If a Hulk player XFCs into Gamma Crush I just let go of the swoop right after he goes into the air, so Gamma Crush whiffs. And Stalking Flare only goes out if Dormammu gets hit, not if Firebrand gets hit. So even if he does hit me, Stalking Flare is going to hit him right back, and then I get a free combo when I Bon Voyage off of it. Only particular crossover counters work. Slasher was doing this with Wesker, and Wesker would just get hit by Firebrand anyway. You need to put a character with an invincible hyper or something in to really make it work. And even then, you're still eventually going to get hit by Stalking Flare unless you're Captain America or something.
Because Firebrand's dive just goes through all of Zero's things, basically. The one where he surfboards on Zero. When you're spoiled by Zero's priority, things like that that can overpower Zero's attacks are scary.
Honestly the only thing that made me even survive wasn't Zero, it was Nova overpowering Dorm and that I saw everytime you'd land with Firebrand / Morrigan, you mashed hard on L (understandly so, it's great). If I blocked it, quick jump into Buster or dash from Nova since you'd keep hitting L a bit too long even after it was blocked.
Surfboard divekick = Bon Voyage. It's basically an inferior level 3 buster, though. It doesn't actually outrange Zero. The range on Bon Voyage is pretty mediocre. It's just moving while it's attacking like any dive kick, so it's hard to gauge how to counter it. Vergil and Dante players just launch me straight out of it, and it pisses me off since that's basically all Firebrand has to open people up with (his mix-ups are pretty terrible).
I definitely feel as though Zero was what made the matches the most difficult on my end. My problems with Nova are primarily inexperience. His shitty air dashes really mess with my head because they're so slow. I expect him to come zipping forward, but he just kind of floats toward me and my brain psychs itself out.
The thing about Firebrand is that he doesn't really have anything good to cancel a lot of his stuff into. Like if you're pushblock Bon Voyage and I had a brain fart that made me hit c.L anyway, there isn't a lot for me to do regardless. He doesn't have anything that lets him retain momentum from his blockstrings outside of Demon Missile H, and that is a risky move against a lot of characters, and doesn't even lead to anything if it hits.
My Morrigan really just needs a lot of work. It's hard to get practice with your anchor, and this team does not perform well with Morrigan on point. A lot of it was the disinterest in the matches, though. I didn't want to be a dick and just stand there, but I also couldn't muster the energy to be using Morrigan right most of the time.
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