MarlinPie TAC combos are still super godlike, and they expressly build meter (and less meter for the opponent) for the guaranteed kill, faster. Still more efficient, all things considered.
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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT2| New Age of Zeroes
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you know i think marlinpie can still do his swag combo and keep it going. he usually ends the combo after landing with his level 3 or that aerial projectile hyper. can't he simply jump after landing and then continue the combo till the character dies? or at least till he builds enough meter for the level 3 and kill you for sure. don't know if this will work but i'm sure he will figure it out.
SolarKnight
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...Sheesh, is this infinites for everyone day or something?
Im not sure I understand, what allows these infinites? Just the jumping so fast the game thinks you havent touched the ground yet thing?
Im not sure I understand, what allows these infinites? Just the jumping so fast the game thinks you havent touched the ground yet thing?
You may be able to get one touch kills with any character - this'll be interesting.
Yeah, when you 'hit' the ground the hitstun from your last move makes the game thing you're still in the air when it looks like you've touched the ground, but you can still jump again to continue the infinite.
Yeah, when you 'hit' the ground the hitstun from your last move makes the game thing you're still in the air when it looks like you've touched the ground, but you can still jump again to continue the infinite.
Yeah. Guessing is fun. It does happen all the time, though.
Oldschoolgamer
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If you don't have a scummy welcome mix-up then the only thing you're doing is giving your opponent XF2 and 5 bars, by using this. Characters that can reset at will, probably will get the most benefit out of this, since they won't be giving their opponent extra resources for using the infinite fully. Then comes the characters that kill fast enough where their opponents still don't have enough time to get much. Similar shit with MvC2.
Zero starts the round, gets a hit, goes through the motions and either lightning loops you to death or uses the "unblockable tac" to switch to Magneto. Magneto starts doing his thing until the opposition starts gaining meter. They drop the infinite and reset the situation (depending on the assists, his resets get really ridiculous). Say you survive, and land back on the ground. Your screwed yourself, since you're going to have to block. If he has drones, pushblocking won't help you. If he continues with the infinite, then you get resources, but you're going to have to guess which side you're coming in on. Get hit, then die via XF Gravity squeeze or DHC to Zero. Of course, he can just raw tag back to Zero and force you to block lightning.
Morrigan can do the same shit, except she can put you in bullet hell or drain your meter...
Zero starts the round, gets a hit, goes through the motions and either lightning loops you to death or uses the "unblockable tac" to switch to Magneto. Magneto starts doing his thing until the opposition starts gaining meter. They drop the infinite and reset the situation (depending on the assists, his resets get really ridiculous). Say you survive, and land back on the ground. Your screwed yourself, since you're going to have to block. If he has drones, pushblocking won't help you. If he continues with the infinite, then you get resources, but you're going to have to guess which side you're coming in on. Get hit, then die via XF Gravity squeeze or DHC to Zero. Of course, he can just raw tag back to Zero and force you to block lightning.
Morrigan can do the same shit, except she can put you in bullet hell or drain your meter...
5 bucks you can't do it on a match against me on a casual match at EVO. I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU TAKE ON THAT BET, YO.
Oh yeah, folks. we doing bets on GAF now. :3
shadoclone
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Wouldn't the S do a full knockdown because its a TAC?, you'd probably have to do gun loops, also I tried with him but that was before I knew you had to instant jump, but even still, there are also people saying that hitstop on landing is what allows it, either way I don't think it'll be that easy for Wesker, I'll probably be trying again though in a bit.
Why would Zero of all characters risk the kill going for a TAC into an infinite into ANOTHER reset?
This exploit basically benefits someone like Firebrand or Storm the most because of their partners Dorm and Sentinel/Magneto. Firebrand/Storm get a touch but don't have meter to finish off the character so they TAC into either Dorm or Mag/Storm for the infinite. Fanatiq team is going to get hella mileage out of this and Storm is definitely slightly above in her placements on tier lists because she doesn't have good TOD combos at all. Of course it's more than likely she has an infinite herself meaning all of Fanatiq's team could have an infinite (I am 90% sure Storm is going to have an infinite, Strange already has one by the way).
If the Wesker infinite is true, then someone like Wolverine while being Berserker Charged can TAC into Wesker if he can't finish himself. Thing is that Wesker's minimum scaling is shit low and he would be building the opponent a ton of meter with his infinite. Some characters infinites are going to be way better than others due to minimum scaling. If Viper or Zero get infinites off of this then they will be killing characters much quicker for less opponent meter gain.
Er derp forgot about that. Gun loop would be my next try though.
I'll make that bet with you. It's *really* easy.
Consider your Taskmaster dead using no meter, sir
.Those were my thoughts, too. I haven't seen a Wesker infinite yet, but part of me thinks it would have to be something to do with the gun loop. Amusingly, before the news broke yesterday, I was actually working on the gun loop. Excellent timing, Biz?!
I mean, it might not. I think the hardest part is going to be getting to the ground and then jumping immediately for Wesker. The down teleport might keep him on the ground too long.
Oldschoolgamer
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If Phoenix is in the back and not drones, then it's like 2 1/2 - 3 bars for the price of one.
"God's Beard!"
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So there's a couple of unexplored avenues with this infinite tech I need to try out, I'll report back in a bit. Until then, I'll keep practicing my Rocket Raccoon infinite, I think I can do one with haggar.
Dahbomb wanted me to pick 3 characters to win evo. I said phoenix/phoenix/phoenix.
Dahbomb wanted me to pick 3 characters to win evo. I said phoenix/phoenix/phoenix.
do it and report back!
SolarKnight
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He has one already too or you mean that youre trying to get one to work? I had some ideas but I wont be home for a while.
No, you can just try and not counter the first one and counter the second one.
I think. Mostly sure that's how it works.
If you guess right and counter the first one, though, I think it still breaks?
We have to set a limit of matches, I s'pose. 5 casuals, 10? If it's infinite (hah) I will get it eventually on him.
Assuming I have time to practice it between now and then.
Naaa man I bet 10 bucks you will get piss drunk and start doing wheelchair backflips all over Vegas trying to do a pizza cutter in rl :lol
Goddamit I promise I'll be there next evo
shadoclone
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You can wait if you think they're going to whiff a TAC, also works for X-Factor and dash cancelling TACs but is obviously also a part of the guessing game.
Holy shit this is true, and I'm pretty sure she will have an infinite if she doesn't already, touch kill, get 5 bars, into lvl 3 kill, oh god this is madness.
Edit: can shuma combo after chaos dimension?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I'm so lost, why are all of these infinite popping up? What the hell started this?
crimsonspider89
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Zero/X-23/whoever. Endgame. TAC glitch, into X23 infinite, third char lockdown assist and dirt nap, then kill and TAC infinite with last char and tag X23 back in.
"God's Beard!"
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changing your bets for new tech. shame shame
Marlinpie really.
Kubo claimed that x23 already has an infinite.
crimsonspider89
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Zero/X23/Dante. Zero can use the TAC glitch to 100% the TAC, X23 infinite. Dante Lockdown with Jam session and Dirt nap into combo into another TAC and then she gets hardtaged back in and repeat.
Fairly certain it's not 100%.
Oldschoolgamer
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Yep, that's endgame level shit.
shaowebb
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TAC infinites explained
This breaks it down, but basically there is a way to trick the game into not kicking in hitstun scaling involving TAC's and its creating infinites.
"God's Beard!"
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Yeah, just changes the direction.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Infinites have always been allowed at Evo. The difference between the ones in this game compared to MvC2, is that these are considerably easier to execute.
And well in mvc2 they would eventually drop out so you had to snap another character I to a guard break and start doing it again, so it was a lot harder, this shit is super low risk and the highest of rewards.
limiting the reps would be a better idea but still is inconvenient like solar said.
SolarKnight
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Limiting the reps, but thats just inconvenient imo.
Is there some TAC tech with Morrigan that I'm not familiar with? Besides the extra TAC off of a corner Finishing Shower (which can only be down or up exchange, I believe)?
Honestly, I've always hated the TAC mechanic. I think the entire thing should just be ditched.
SolarKnight
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She can glitch TACs to make the guessing more confusing.
She can do the air dash cancel TAC stuff as well. That's all I know though unless something developed again recently.
So this is pretty easy to identify too.
I'm not necessarily in favor of it, but they could simply force you to end a TAC combo after touching the ground. That'd universally cover all infinites created by this glitch.
Got a video by any chance? I had no idea this existed.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Wouldn't the specific infinites be identifiable over time?
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