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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT2| New Age of Zeroes
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Karsticles
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Posting for the new page - I can't see that Enzo added it anywhere in the OP:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah4zxqcb0_eodHZraDVlaUVPTGlXYW15VlljNWFwQUE#gid=0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah4zxqcb0_eodHZraDVlaUVPTGlXYW15VlljNWFwQUE#gid=0
lol@ leaving the Kappa in.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
It's actually much funnier that way.
Kappa is everywhere
Changing the subject, Jwong will stream later his labing time, trying new stuff with the TAC glitch, should be good!
Just trying to say they seem like an interesting pair, I haven't tried it so I was intrigued by the combination.
And I have also been saying the same thing, TACs are great but implemented very poorly.
Might be able to get something off of Air Joe?So no Viewtiful Joe infinites, then?
Ok.
Dante has one too.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Good luck man! What team do you play?
WesternHeretic
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Oh yea forgot about that one. But Dante does have flight mode in devil trigger yea but you're talking about the one he does jump m, h, air play right? I haven't seen anyone do that past like a few reps.
Karsticles
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Storm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBN7fmwf2l4&feature=player_embedded
Fanatiq's entire team can infinite now.
Anyone got a head count of all the post TAC infinites? I got the following:
Chun Li
Trish
Magneto
Storm
Sentinel
Strange
Dante
Taskmaster
MODOK
Phoenix
Dormammu
Doom
Nova
Hsien Ko
Rocket Raccoon (rumored)
X-23 (rumored)
Iron Man (rumored)
Wesker (rumored)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBN7fmwf2l4&feature=player_embedded
Fanatiq's entire team can infinite now.
Anyone got a head count of all the post TAC infinites? I got the following:
Chun Li
Trish
Magneto
Storm
Sentinel
Strange
Dante
Taskmaster
MODOK
Phoenix
Dormammu
Doom
Nova
Hsien Ko
Rocket Raccoon (rumored)
X-23 (rumored)
Iron Man (rumored)
Wesker (rumored)
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Maaaaan I'm too lazy to learn all of these.
SolarKnight
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Rocket does too supposedly, but there's no video yet since the damn thing is even harder than the loops apparently :/
Karsticles
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Gah, I just realized that Evo is taking place on the same weekend that I'm moving. FML.
shaowebb
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So much for Iron Fist then. Any ideas on how he might still get one?
WesternHeretic
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MSS will always be the BEST.
Remember when everyone thought that Marvel 3 was all about Capcom characters?
Yea... well Marvel said fuck that we still run this shit like MVC2.
Remember when everyone thought that Marvel 3 was all about Capcom characters?
Yea... well Marvel said fuck that we still run this shit like MVC2.
Burning Water
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Question, TheoryGAF. How long til these infinites break or ruin Marvel?
For this EVO? I don't see anyone making a big enough impact for people to be scared, but I can see the combos become more mainstream 4 months from now. Also, Shady_K had to say this about the matter:
If the TAC infinites become a main staple of the game though (which I doubt), I can see myself being turned off from online/local and regional competitive play. :/
Until someone figures out a way to exploit the TAC system where a TAC is all but guaranteed or the chance is greatly in your favor (ala the Morrigan fly cancel TAC trick). Then you come up with some meter intensive unblockable set ups like X-23 and you can 300% their team without them getting a chance to play because of the meter you built up from the infinites.
That's pretty close to a broken game IMO. But that's in the future, right now it's not that big of a deal but expect players like Fanatiq and FChamp to have a small edge at EVO since they can potentially infinite off of any TAC. The basic game is still the same it's just that the ante has been raised dramatically on what is possible after you get hit and also the reward for a successful TAC is increased by numerous folds. It's basically EXTREMELY HIGH REWARD vs almost no risk. TODs and regular combos will still have value as they are guaranteed though that might change if more TAC exploits are discovered.
Also Vergil is extremely bolstered by these infinites just like Phoenix is. 2 of his best partners Dante and Magneto have an infinite. You KNOW Yipes is in that lab with Dante and Magneto.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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I am just so happy that with these new infinites that we can see combos longer than Vergil and Zero combos. Thank you based Mahvel Gods!
Karsticles
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LLND is the source of the Hsien-ko claim. Can't get much more solid than that, even without a video.
Yeah, notation was given as well; even without the video, I believe it.
WesternHeretic
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Or they just release another version and add a $39.99 price tag behind it because it's Capcom....
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
If these become popular, we'll probably see a rise of "The Machines."
Is it bad that I'd be down if there were new characters..?
[/no I don't have a problem]
MarlinPie confirmed it twice. Also I edited Hsien Ko since the notations for that were released.
SolarKnight
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Karsticles
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I would buy a 12 character expansion every 6 months for $40 easy, and have absolutely no regrets. I spend $30 on a restaurant meal when my wife and I go out, minimum. It costs me most than $30 to see a 2-hour movie; almost $40 with pop and popcorn. $40 for a rebalancing and retooling of the game and 12 more characters to mess with? Goddamn is that a good deal. Gamers are just messed up in the head if they don't realize how very fair that price is. I've gotten at least 500 hours out of this game so far - how could I reasonably complain?
Im Ok with this.
Oh hey, we're back to the part of the cycle where we beg for an update with more characters? That chart should really be updated.
And Cyclops please Capcom. I'd lol if they include his version from Avengers vs X-Men though, anybody who's been following or reading that should know what I mean.
And Cyclops please Capcom. I'd lol if they include his version from Avengers vs X-Men though, anybody who's been following or reading that should know what I mean.
Karsticles
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"Might need to be patched" led to "Hey since you're doing a patch, why not add 12 characters?" Hahaha.
What do you mean?
Karsticles
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Probably not, and he doesn't get to call those shots anyway, unfortunately. Otherwise we would have had 20 characters in Ultimate.
He'll be at EVO, right?
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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Good God man!? That can't be right? Can it? Pop and Popcorn! Dude f-that just sneak shit in. It is so easy to just stuff candy in your pants pocket or a soda in your coat. Don't get ripped off. Hell I have snuck in an entire McDonalds meal before. Nobody cares and you hurt nobody. Get in the game son!
Sorry I have play far too much Marvel today and I think it is starting to effect me.
SolarKnight
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Karsticles
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Oh man, I'm all about sneaking the food in. I've been doing that since I was a little kid. But you can't get theater quality popcorn anywhere but in a theater, and my wife loves fountain pop far more than she loves canned pop, so it's not an easy situation to be in. Sometimes we'll just get popcorn. We don't go to the movies often, maybe once every 6 months.
Looking off of AMC's website now:
1 evening ticket to see a movie = $10.50
Taking concession prices from here (3 years old, so probably lower than now):
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090124101654AANEgoG
Large popcorn = $6.75
Large drink = $4.75
So yeah, over $30 easy before even calculating taxes, which are 10% where I live, making the total $35.75. Theaters wonder why they have trouble staying above ground - oi.
Last I went to see Prometheus, and we actually tried to sneak into Avengers afterward because it was starting right as our film ended and the entrance was next to ours. We got in and waited 10 minutes, and then it advised us to put our 3D glasses on. -_-
Honestly, the delicious taste of theater popcorn is 95% of the reason I'm willing to go. If I could replicate it at home I'd never bother.
Oh, that thing!
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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lol owned
shaowebb
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There are no words for how many times A vs X has disappointed me so far. Bad art all the way around, AvsX "Fun facts! <3" popping up in panels during facts to give stats on characters and to mock the action, lack of any angles other than side views, no sense of foreshortening, plus no real drama to the fights. Just meet up and free for all stuff with barely any one on one versus fights (which would have made for entire issues of fights to drag out the worth of each character).
Its been one big mess done up by B-teamers and why did they
resurrect Captain Marvel to just kill him off again after making him act out of character the whole time?
Also the "new outfits" for the 5 dudes on the X-men are about as unoriginal as they get.
LOOK FAMILIAR?!
God I'm burned so bad by this event being written and drawn by the B-team...
I actually like the basic concept behind TACs, but they are definitely for novice players and they are balanced with that audience in mind. Make them cost a bar and I don't think novice players get enough damage out of them to justify their use vs. just using a DHC, and there wouldn't be much of a point in TACing twice. The current implementation definitely needs some continued tinkering though, as does X-factor.
Makes me curious what direction Capcom will go with for new system mechanics in MvC4.
Makes me curious what direction Capcom will go with for new system mechanics in MvC4.
It would be much better if they reactable.
Karsticles
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It would aid Niitsuma's original vision of heavy characters being second on a team. Imagine I open someone up with Firebrand via Bon Voyage, launch, TAC into Hulk for big damage. Makes good sense, because Hulk's combo will do more damage than Firebrand would alone.
That would be fine too, but it's hard to find that perfect line between "hard to react to", "impossible to react to", and "so easy to react to that no one would ever use it".
Making them cost a bar wouldn't fix anything. If anything a guaranteed TAC would break this game even more.
Do BnB that builds 1 bar, guaranteed TAC into an infinite which puts you at meter positive.
The 5 fixes that I would put in for TAC short of removing them altogether:
1) Increase the window in which a TAC counter can be performed. The color lights up BEFORE the TAC is performed so you can react to it if you are looking for it.
2) TAC resets the hit stun but builds back up with additional hits like normal (so that swag combos are still possible some what). Damage is still scaled heavily. None of this both characters have to be in the air to ignore hit stun crap.
3) A TAC attack/counter cannot be X factor cancelled nor can it be flight cancelled.
4) Performing a successful TAC counter causes an exaggerated wall bounce from which characters can combo off of. The counter will cause the combo to be heavily scaled in terms of damage (even more than throws).
5) TAC attacks don't work on assist characters (meaning you don't get to bounce their assists around by spamming down TAC). The move completely whiffs against assist characters.
These are the bare minimum changes they have to make to TAC to make it playable. I can sort of live without #4 but the rest are necessary changes IMO.
Do BnB that builds 1 bar, guaranteed TAC into an infinite which puts you at meter positive.
The 5 fixes that I would put in for TAC short of removing them altogether:
1) Increase the window in which a TAC counter can be performed. The color lights up BEFORE the TAC is performed so you can react to it if you are looking for it.
2) TAC resets the hit stun but builds back up with additional hits like normal (so that swag combos are still possible some what). Damage is still scaled heavily. None of this both characters have to be in the air to ignore hit stun crap.
3) A TAC attack/counter cannot be X factor cancelled nor can it be flight cancelled.
4) Performing a successful TAC counter causes an exaggerated wall bounce from which characters can combo off of. The counter will cause the combo to be heavily scaled in terms of damage (even more than throws).
5) TAC attacks don't work on assist characters (meaning you don't get to bounce their assists around by spamming down TAC). The move completely whiffs against assist characters.
These are the bare minimum changes they have to make to TAC to make it playable. I can sort of live without #4 but the rest are necessary changes IMO.
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