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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT2| New Age of Zeroes

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Frantic

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Solune said:
So any Spencer pros know how to get an additional Armor Piercer after an Up Grapple like in this vid? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnkdpA1eS6o .

I'm thinking it might be due to the exchange combos or if someone knows whats up...
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I'm pretty sure they have to be at a certain height before the up shot. I know I was messing with it in training mode, and that's what I found out, anyways. I usually could only land it from a launcher. I think that's how it works, anyways.
 
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"God's Beard!"

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Fully optimized Spencer BnB for incoming characters ^_^

6H+A2(EMD), MH xx Upgrapple, Bionic Bomber, MH xx Upgrapple, A1(Purification), S xx Upgrapple xx Bionic Maneuvers, Air Grapple H, jS, Upgrapple, Bionic Bomber

1,018,400 damage for one bar

I haven't checked how much meter it builds yet, and I need to adjust the version off a command grab and the midscreen versions, but this is basically the idea.

Also, I made a couple SICK ASS resets with Stalking Flare and raw tags off throws. <_<
And I made a better version of my Dormammu BnB off the Masta CJ mixup.

Seriously, once I start playing this team at Southtown Arcade, people are gonna be like WTF at how often I change characters. Looking like I'll make my debut in 2 weeks at the next ranbat if all goes well then at NCR :) :)
 
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"God's Beard!"

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Fuck you combo:

Spencer:
Command Grab, raw tag to Magneto, Gravity Squeeze, raw tag to Dormammu, Flame Carpet + A1(Slant Shot), Dark Matter, 2HS, jH xx Air Tag down to Magneto, jMMH xx flight, jLH adf jh adf jh adf jh adf jh adf jh add jS, Gravity Squeeze, dash forward S + A2(Purification) SJC Magnetic Shockwave

somewhere around 1.2 million damage for only 7 bars

God tier troll version:

Spencer:
Command Grab, raw tag to Magneto, Gravity Squeeze, raw tag to Dormammu, Flame Carpet + A1(Slant Shot), Dark Matter, 2HS, jH xx Air Tag down to Magneto, jMMH xx flight, jLH adf jh adf jh adf jh adf jh adf jh add jS, Gravity Squeeze, raw tag to Dormammu, Flame Carpet x-factor Chaotic Flame
 
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Killa Sasa

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I have seen the truth -- his name is Rocket Raccoon.

Just wait until you run into a real good one. You will swear like a demon -- I'm glad I won't get caught off guard by one since I play with one of the best out there IMO.

That little bastard...
 
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Professor Beef

Banned
Spencer probably has the worst damn music in the game besides Iron Man.
Killa Sasa said:
I have seen the truth -- his name is Rocket Raccoon.

Just wait until you run into a real good one. You will swear like a demon -- I'm glad I won't get caught off guard by one since I play with one of the best out there IMO.

That little bastard...
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I am not a believer.
 
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smurfx

get some go again
Killa Sasa said:
I have seen the truth -- his name is Rocket Raccoon.

Just wait until you run into a real good one. You will swear like a demon -- I'm glad I won't get caught off guard by one since I play with one of the best out there IMO.

That little bastard...
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i fought this rocket/strider team and holy shit was it annoying. kept getting crossed up and its hard to get to him. although once i catch him he is usually dead.
 
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Killa Sasa

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Professor Beef said:
I am not a believer.
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You will be once you get Boulder Loop'd 8 times, self-unblockable'd or Romket Skate'd. Over and over again.

His Sonic spring is pretty ridiculous too, near Summon Swords IMO. It's the same idea in that you spend one bar and get immediate screen control.

His damage is pretty decent too. And dat hurtbox makes me a sad panda.


smurfx said:
i fought this rocket/strider team and holy shit was it annoying. kept getting crossed up and its hard to get to him. although once i catch him he is usually dead.
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Rocky's pretty ridiculous. Gotta kill once you touch him, but I have to adjust all my combos to non-optimal for him too >_> So many times it's on a stray hit so I have to blow some resources just to finish him for good.

He's made my kill-at-all-costs-list along with Zero, Skrull, Felicia, Strider and Dormammu.
 
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crimsonspider89

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Was this midscreen boulder loop or corner? Let us not forget Rocket's unblockables he has with boudlder trap and wild ripper IIRC.

Yeah, be happy for his hard air to air confirms and low damage.
 
shaowebb

shaowebb

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I'm guessing vajra plus dig for setups or did he pop shots, call vajra and rocket skate in with lows for a seriously tricky to block setup? Guy can land hits pretty easily with assists to force you to block wrong or lock you down. His problem is getting damage so he's got to either build a bunch of meter or be sick at abusing loops/setups.

Could you describe the tactics he was using Sasa? Like how he played his footsies or did his setups? Knowing if he played teleport abusing, rocket skate dash around,assist + zoning tools keep away or some of each to move and set you up would be interesting. I've mentioned him several times here its just there are easier guys to use so no one seems to try him. I'd like to hear more about those that do.
crimsonspider89 said:
Was this midscreen boulder loop or corner? Let us not forget Rocket's unblockables he has with boudlder trap and wild ripper IIRC.

Yeah, be happy for his hard air to air confirms and low damage.
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Also his grenade corner loop. If he can hit you with net trap at any point in the corner you are going to eat it.
 
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Sixfortyfive

He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
AFAIK, the key to beating a good raccoon is staying in the air, but not every character has an ideal air-to-ground game.

That thing can be a bitch to fight if you're grounded.

EDIT: Shaowebb, you should catch a ride to Final Round with Riley.
 
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Killa Sasa

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crimsonspider89 said:
Was this midscreen boulder loop or corner? Let us not forget Rocket's unblockables he has with boudlder trap and wild ripper IIRC.

Yeah, be happy for his hard air to air confirms and low damage.
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It was a corner boulder loop -- he was using Romket Skates to carry since it's much easier and the he doesn't see the damage differential worth the potential drop (70k difference I believe -- against my team, that's not gonna make a difference since I'm running 2 900k's and an 825k).
 
shaowebb

shaowebb

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Sixfortyfive said:
AFAIK, the key to beating a good raccoon is staying in the air, but not every character has an ideal air-to-ground game.

That thing can be a bitch to fight if you're grounded.

EDIT: Shaowebb, you should catch a ride to Final Round with Riley.
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I haven't even played but a few times since December since portfolio grind to the finish line started for me at my animation school. I've just been watching vids on Sundays after the week's workload pans out to try to occasionally see whats gone on. Not that school was letting me play much before that as you saw lol.

Congrats on the Darkstalkers news recently BTW. I figure this is a big moment for you.
Killa Sasa said:
It was a corner boulder loop -- he was using Romket Skates to carry since it's much easier and the he doesn't see the damage differential worth the potential drop (70k difference I believe -- against my team, that's not gonna make a difference since I'm running 2 900k's and an 825k).
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I had a feeling it was skates since he was using Strider instead of a lockdown. If you had said Dr. Doom then I'd believe in Dig being a bigger factor to his setups thanks to plasma beam assist (though hidden missile OTG for resets is cool with him if you can nail them after log trap).

RR/Doom/Strider is actually a pretty good team.
 
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Solune

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Professor Beef said:
Spencer probably has the worst damn music in the game besides Iron Man.
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Buahahah my bad, next time I won't use that team. I just really really wanted to try pulling off that Rawtag combo in a real match. and i didnt pull it off in 20+ matches fuck!
shaowebb said:
I haven't even played but a few times since December since portfolio grind to the finish line started for me at my animation school. I've just been watching vids on Sundays after the week's workload pans out to try to occasionally see whats gone on. Not that school was letting me play much before that as you saw lol.

Congrats on the Darkstalkers news recently BTW. I figure this is a big moment for you.
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Sucks about not being able to play man. Also what's this about Darkstalkers?

Professor Beef said:
GGs again, Sollune. I'm just happy that I managed to get two Level 3's during that entire session.
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GGs that was godlike haha. Also that avatar really needs to go, Digivice needs to come back stat.
 
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Sloosha

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Calling Spencer assist during boulder loop is difficult. :(

Might try out Vergil for anchor now. Would rapid slash be a good assist for RR.
 
shaowebb

shaowebb

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Solune said:
Sucks about not being able to play man. Also what's this about Darkstalkers?
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Not being able to play is a small price to pay for a game industry job though so I'll live :)

And the Darkstalkers thing is related to how in the past week there was a thread talking about how Capcom filed a trademark for the name "Darkstalkers" again. Thread was here and it seems to show that something really was meant by this moment awhile back teasing Darkstalkers wasn't dead.

Nothing specific is known about what this means, but it definitely means something is going on again with it and thats why I congratulated SixFortyFive since he's a pretty big Darkstalkers user and player from way back in the day. I snagged that goin outta business clearance artbook of Darkstalkers from Borders BTW for next to nothing SixFortyFive. Just thought I'd mention it found a good home in the end.
 
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spyhunterzero

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Anyone here going to the Texas Bar fights tournament in Plano, Tx? Was just wondering since I might end up going just to watch. Don't think I good enough to play though.
 
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Dahbomb

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Oldschoolgamer said:
Things I don't understand after seeing WB:

-The horrible Vergils.
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What's there to understand? People don't know how to play Vergil properly. They don't know the right confirms, combos, mix ups and set ups. I seriously though Zeus on SRK was going to have an aneurysm over the Vergil play on display especially at that money match exhibition. Hopefully when he comes to Final Round he will at least show people what this character is capable of. TODs off of ANY button and any distance and if he can't TOD you he puts you in a very shitty situation. Terrifying block strings, mix ups and set ups.

-Weskers that still don't use palms or command grabs.
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See above. Although there are hardly many Wesker specialists out there who actually go in-depth with the character.

-People not killing off Zero when they touch him.
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Probably don't have the combos to do so usually. Most Zeroes at the tournament were fraud-like too. There were only 3 Zeroes who I thought were proficient enough to be a legit threat at the tournament... MM Steve, Flocker and Dr Chaos.

-Zero players getting a thousand touches on a character and not...actually...killing them.
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Look above. Also too many Zero players got Lightning Loop happy and tried to do it every time (and dropped numerous time) they could do it when a simple Rekkoha combo could've gotten the job done. Against Justin, Flocker should've done Rekkoha XF Rekkoha easy mode combo but tried to do the hard combo and dropped it.


@ Enzo: You missed a classic of a tournament. Missed you when we were nutting ourselves from hype.
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Oldschoolgamer

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Dahbomb said:
What's there to understand? People don't know how to play Vergil properly. They don't know the right confirms, combos, mix ups and set ups. I seriously though Zeus on SRK was going to have an aneurysm over the Vergil play on display especially at that money match exhibition. Hopefully when he comes to Final Round he will at least show people what this character is capable of. TODs off of ANY button and any distance and if he can't TOD you he puts you in a very shitty situation. Terrifying block strings, mix ups and set ups.
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I hope he does too, cause damn. Winrich's vergil is pretty fun to watch tho.

See above. Although there are hardly many Wesker specialists out there who actually go in-depth with the character.
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Since when do you need to be a specialist to learn Wesker's bnb? It's easy as hell. Hell, Viscant gave everyone a tutorial on how to play him. Spend an hour in the lab and you'll have his shit down. The Jumping gunshot loop is about the only thing that needs lab work, and that's because you need to set it up.


Probably don't have the combos to do so usually. Most Zeroes at the tournament were fraud-like too. There were only 3 Zeroes who I thought were proficient enough to be a legit threat at the tournament... MM Steve, Flocker and Dr Chaos.
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Word. I'm about taking the problem out, so if I have to burn XF to do it, so be it.

MM Steve's Zero leveled way up.

Look above. Also too many Zero players got Lightning Loop happy and tried to do it every time (and dropped numerous time) they could do it when a simple Rekkoha combo could've gotten the job done. Against Justin, Flocker should've done Rekkoha XF Rekkoha easy mode combo but tried to do the hard combo and dropped it.
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True enough enough, but even if it's not a TOD, something isn't right if you aren't even killing with a bunch of separate hits...
 
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LakeEarth

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Unknown made it clear to me that Nemesis is crazy enhanced with an OTG assist. That corner reset into command throw is just nasty. Now I just gotta figure out who on my team can go, Hawkeye or Doom.
 
JeTmAn81

JeTmAn81

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Watching the replay of the WGC Marvel singles Grand Finals, I think I found French Yipes:

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Bizazedo

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That was at Winter Brawl, right? Can't see from work.

I was a few stations down when that happened. Lets just say the crowd was not kind to CJ.
 
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Killa Sasa

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SolarKnight said:
You mean something like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR6xpE7fPsQ&feature=player_embedded

Or is it something else?
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Yeah it was similar, more boulders I believe :lol Thing is, even if he drops the loop, you're in a shit situation regardless because the guy I was playing has Dorm behind Rocky with Dark Hole to set up lockdown regardless.

His words, when I was discussing with him how bullshit (aka MAHVEL) it was:

"boulder hits high, c.L is 4f and mashable
if you get stuck in a lockdown assist I can just dash>boulder trap>c.L and you die
oil carpet is the same deal but you can pushblock it so the timing is a lot trickier

you rolled forward every time iirc which lets me do IOH/fake IOH low
but if you neutral/back tech into the dark hole I can just dash forward boulder trap>c.L and you die anyways"
 
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SolarKnight

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Killa Sasa said:
Yeah it was similar, more boulders I believe :lol Thing is, even if he drops the loop, you're in a shit situation regardless because the guy I was playing has Dorm behind Rocky with Dark Hole to set up lockdown regardless.

His words, when I was discussing with him how bullshit (aka MAHVEL) it was:

"boulder hits high, c.L is 4f and mashable
if you get stuck in a lockdown assist I can just dash>boulder trap>c.L and you die
oil carpet is the same deal but you can pushblock it so the timing is a lot trickier

you rolled forward every time iirc which lets me do IOH/fake IOH low
but if you neutral/back tech into the dark hole I can just dash forward boulder trap>c.L and you die anyways"
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Hahaha, I so need to do stuff like that. The bolded is what I'm working on right now. Btw, how does he usually start the Romket Skates?
 
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Darobga

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If anyone is playing on Vita please feel free to add me or send a Fight Request.

It seems that in ranked as soon as people start losing they like to drop from the game, so any consistent play would be wonderful :)

PSN ID: Darobga
 
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"God's Beard!"

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Ok I figured out a way to get upgrapple off of an overhead midscreen against small characters ^_^

6H+A2(EMD), M xx Wire Grapple forward, LMH xx Upgrapple


whoo, no more character specific combos for Spencer! 830k meterless damage on all characters, wheee
 
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Sloosha

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I really need to learn Spencer - slant shot is too good an assist for RR to pass up. Is Spencer a particularly hard character to learn? I haven't used him outside of mission mode.

Trying to find a good anchor for my RR/Doom team.
 
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LakeEarth

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Sloosha said:
I really need to learn Spencer - slant shot is too good an assist for RR to pass up. Is Spencer a particularly hard character to learn? I haven't used him outside of mission mode.
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He's like Wesker. You can get a ton of damage with minimal effort, but you can eek out 100-200k more if you put in the time. His optimal midscreen B&B is hard, but you can do some major damage in the corner with stuff that isn't too bad.

I'm not sure if he helps Doom all that much. If you're using Hidden Missiles assist, you can use its launch OTG ability to get some CHEAP and easy corner damage against big opponents. Just get them into the corner, call hidden missiles, the second one will OTG them, get the upgrapple. Then the missiles that missed come down and OTG again, upgrapple again into hyper. Upgrapple is unscaled for... some reason, so every one does a clean 80k damage.
 
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Sloosha

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^Thanks. I've spent a lot time trying to build a team around RR, that I haven't really put much thought into what happens when left with Doom. Perhaps Ammy or Strider anchor would be better. I kind of wanted to try out Vergil as well.
 
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A Pretty Panda

fuckin' called it, man
Tobe1 said:
do a psn one today, and tomorrow a live one for my return :)

edit: btw kadey what happen to double stream tech you were going to get?
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If it does become a psn lobby I'd be down to play. I had a dream before that I was using a Vergil/Wesker/Hawkeye team. It is my destiny to play this team today raw.

edit- my vergil sucks. destiny retracted
 
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Parallax Scroll

Banned
I almost feel dirty picking it, but I may be giving team Anime Sword Dudes (Zero / Vergil / Dante) a serious shot in the near future. Zero's been my favorite character since vanilla, and I want to build a solid team around him. Dante and Vergil seem to be two of the best support characters for Zero, I already play an OK Vergil, and I'm still clunky with airdash characters so guys like Doom/Mags are still tough for me to use. I've never given Dante a very serious shot, but if I stick to his simple stuff (no bold cancels for now) I think I can get by.

Todo list for this team:

- Learn basic low-execution Dante BnBs and mixups
- Learn more advanced Vergil combos and setups
- Get better at Zero lightning/buster confirms
- Learn Zero corner combo using Jam Session
- Learn Zero -> Vergil swords DHC

Wish me luck GAF!
 
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Grecco

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Parallax Scroll said:
I almost feel dirty picking it, but I may be giving team Anime Sword Dudes (Zero / Vergil / Dante) a serious shot in the near future. Zero's been my favorite character since vanilla, and I want to build a solid team around him. Dante and Vergil seem to be two of the best support characters for Zero, I already play an OK Vergil, and I'm still clunky with airdash characters so guys like Doom/Mags are still tough for me to use. I've never given Dante a very serious shot, but if I stick to his simple stuff (no bold cancels for now) I think I can get by.

Todo list for this team:

- Learn basic low-execution Dante BnBs and mixups
- Learn more advanced Vergil combos and setups
- Get better at Zero lightning/buster confirms
- Learn Zero corner combo using Jam Session
- Learn Zero -> Vergil swords DHC

Wish me luck GAF!
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If you want easy shit dont bother with vergil/dante. Go with Zero/Wesker/Hawkeye
 
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Parallax Scroll

Banned
Grecco said:
If you want easy shit dont bother with vergil/dante. Go with Zero/Wesker/Hawkeye
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My main team for ultimate has been Zero/Wesker/Vergil, but that was mainly for before I got good at Zero's buster relaunch. I don't really need Wesker for combo extensions anymore. I've been giving Hawkeye a shot recently but he still feels awkward to me. I've given up on Doom like 8 times now so we'll see how this Dante shit goes.

Edit: Really, I just want him for Jam Session. But I think I can get some stuff done with him on point.
 
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