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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT2| New Age of Zeroes
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Yeah, I still play Spencer. I can play right now, if you want.
go go go go
You guys are so fucked up for that last page. Game Theory Admiral... #dead
Looking forward to the OT, and Marlin hype early? What's the next event he's playing at? I need my dose of "the most electrifying man in fighting games" after all. :lol
Looking forward to the OT, and Marlin hype early? What's the next event he's playing at? I need my dose of "the most electrifying man in fighting games" after all. :lol
Vergil team, So I guess Vergil/Wesker/Ironman it is then. Would Vergil/Wesker/Dormammu work too?
Does Maximilian have a video detailing his combos and such? I've searched his channel, but I can't find anything and it seems some tutorials are buried in videos with no indication in the title. SRK has some BnB stuff, but some of the terminology I can't understand and it isn't explained. (ie what does j.H or j.F mean? I've seen both used in one combo, so I don't know if they both mean fierce or not)
scytheavatar
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You should play Wesker/Vergil instead of Vergil/Wesker, since Wesker can build meter for Vergil (which needs lots of meters) and Vergil is easier to DHC in safely. As for assists Iron Man is nice but Iron Man is hard to use. Dorm's assist is nice as lockdown for both Vergil and Wesker, and they are deadly with any lockdown assist. Plus Dorm is a better anchor than Vergil and Wesker. Although I think Magneto and Hawkeye are probably the more convenient choices.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
j. H means using H while in the air.
f. H is using H while holding forward.
cr. H would be using H while crouching.
Dorm/Wesker is good, but not with Vergil.
f. H is using H while holding forward.
cr. H would be using H while crouching.
Dorm/Wesker is good, but not with Vergil.
Try to slot in Vergil seccond if you can. Wesker/Vergil/Ironman is fine. Ironmans beam assist is great and helps out both Vergil and Weskers teleport mixups. Practice timeing the assist call with your teleports.
Dormammu would work as well but Someone with a beam assist might be better. Theres plenty of VErgil tutorial vids on youtube. Dahmbom the resident Vergil guy can probably help you out better with that.
So what would be a good Dorm/Wesker team and what would be a good Wesker/Vergilteam?
Dorm/Beamassist/Wesker
and Wesker/Vergil/Beam assist.
In fact before i asettled on my current team i tried Dormammu/Taskmaster/Wesker and Wesker/Vergil/Taskmaster
GGs. You've gotten rustier than Sentinel after ten years. Also, my Dante shouldn't have made so many XF-less comebacks, LOL.
And sadly, there is no hard counter to Zero. All you're gonna be able to do is find characters that go even with him.
As long as I'm not dead tired or something, sure.
hmmm do zero, nova, or dante have good beam assists? Everyone keeps talking about how Iron man is hard to use, I thought he was the character that most beginners play with because he's so well rounded?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Those characters don't have a beam assist unfortunately. Iron Man does though. I personally find IM hard to use in this game. Though I have bad execution for the most part, it's why I use Hulk lol.
A character that I feel does well with Dorm/Wesker is Hawkeye and I find him quite easy to play.
The closest to a beam assist would be Dantes Weasel Shot. But with Wesker/Vergil maybe Jam Session is better. I dont really know cause i sure as hell cant play Dante
If you want a well rounded character thats "easy" to use, play Taskmaster
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I think a good beginner team would be Hulk/Sent/Wesker. Low execution, high damage. Just have to not get used to that super armor once you move on to harder characters
I'll try taskmaster, hawkeye, and Ironman and see which one I like more. Thanks for the help!
Will try this as well
not enough damage, i know she got the tools like counters and stuff but i need something with more health, i need to grind real hard the mastacj team in this week.
http://www.twitch.tv/localbattles
MarlinPie going fucking HAM right now GODDAMN.
EDIT: He just reverse OCV'd Noel with Ammy with about 100k health and an pseudo-infinite I haven't seen before from Ammy.
MarlinPie going fucking HAM right now GODDAMN.
EDIT: He just reverse OCV'd Noel with Ammy with about 100k health and an pseudo-infinite I haven't seen before from Ammy.
JeTmAn81
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Well, just when I didn't think I could get any LESS offline play in...the local gaming place which was the headquarters for pretty much all of the fighting game action in this area, limited as it is, got broken into and all their gear stolen. TV's, Xboxes, games and controllers. They had around ten setups. It's really a crying shame. It's hard enough getting people together for stuff like this without some rat finks screwing everything up. There was supposed to be a tournament next Saturday and I was actually going to be there. I really hope they're insured.
and...its gone.
Damn, I wanted to see some Pie tonight.
FUCK I MISSED IT.
Faced a pro through fight request and holy shit at this game. It seems like once you get to the pro level you can pretty much kills off a character with one combo. The guy juggled me once and from there I was pretty much watching a video of my health going down from 100 to 0 and there was nothing I could do about it.
"God's Beard!"
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and the mahvel gaf life time achievement award goes to God's beard! here is your trophy.
I feel so loved, I finally have the courage to give it my all this weekend at NCR.
Professor Beef
Banned
Good luck to you, Eraldo and Musuko! I hope I'm not forgetting any other Gaffers.
BeautifulMemory
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I will play. But I never really practiced since despite getting the game day 1. You guys will literally just kill me with one combo
But I am game if you guys ever wanna get together
You just made my day. I am no DMC vet but I appreciate all the intricacies, and by the way how DmC and NG3 threads have gone, I am really convinced that there's not many people on GAF who give a damn about how DMC/NG really should be played. I am really hoping a decent port given the crap that is SH Collection
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
If anything, it goes to show that tons of people care about how DMC/NG should be played, considering there hasn't been much positivity floating in either one. lol.
I just hope my execution will allow me to do half of the stuff I was doing when I was studying TatsumuraBlack(sp?) videos, and the like. DMD Turbo + Fresh Start Dante / Vergil made me feel gdlk. Doubt I'll be able to do that shit now. lol
I'll be around tonight, if you or Frantic wants. I'm actually running a tourney in two weeks, again, so I should probably knock some rust off. That and some VF rust
.SF X TK....I keep expecting people to bail on that game since a lot of people seem to have complaints, yet people don't.
I also need to play Smurf, a LOT, since Haggar is a bane of mine. Someone's normals beating Zero = agh?!
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Yeah that's how this game goes most of the time. It's not that fun when you are on the receiving end of it, but you get used to it after a while. Luckily for you the teams that you are using a very much capable of doing the same thing to the opponent.
crimsonspider89
Banned
#greatestfightinggameever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAJUelWRWBs&feature=player_embedded
People called me nuts when I said Nitsuma was a better designer than Trollno.
#cryingforDS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAJUelWRWBs&feature=player_embedded
People called me nuts when I said Nitsuma was a better designer than Trollno.
#cryingforDS4
"God's Beard!"
Member
Yay, Kusoru is gonna enter SFxT!
Everyone was salty when Megaman was the worst character ever, now they're salty he's the best. How're they gonna feel about that 2013 Hakan patch?
The music fucking makes this video, oh my Godddd. #dead
god that megaman glitch is the funniest thing ever. i wish i had a ps3 just so i could abuse it.
SolarPowered
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Someone posted this on SRK hours ago. I was fucking dying lol. The only people saying Niitsuma shouldn't be in charge of Darkstalkers are vets who don't want anyone from Capcom making it or people who never played the games. Only one group knows what they are talking about.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Old vets. But given the choice: Nitsuma or Ono? I think I know who I would pick. I don't want any of the SFxT shit to get in. And I will GLADLY take ToDs over time outs.
didnt neo g do the vampire series mechanics?
Karsticles
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The answer seems to be obviously "Niitsuma" to me.
Niitsuma:
-Has demonstrated an ability to balance a diverse character roster
-Has good aesthetic taste when it comes to character design
-Made a really fast paced game
Ono:
-Consistently failed to make SFIV more balanced with each iteration, even though there's much less differentiation between each character than in MvC3
-Allows his character designers to make aesthetic freakshows like the uniboob
-Has no experience with a fast paced game
Both of them have their share of glitches, but something like an infinite by mashing the same attack over and over? I don't think Niitsuma would fail that much. Niitsuma managed to do a lot with a significantly smaller budget than Ono. If Capcom execs gave Niitsuma a little more breathing room and funding, I think his superiority as a developer would be much more clear.
It's incredibly ironic that UMvC3 got shafted with 8 less characters and who knows what else simply because Capcom executives didn't want it to interfere with SFxT sales. Rocket Raccoon alone has more style and substance than the entire SFxT launch roster (I haven't seen the 12 on-disk unlockables).
Professor Beef
Banned
Disagree.
If I understand anything of the situation, NeoG is just a guy who was a consultant for the bigger fighting franchises in Capcom over the years. Dirty Beret (who now does GG? MIA?) was the one responsible for most of the Vampire specifics, especially Saviour.
"God's Beard!"
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Sentinel/Rocket Raccoon/Magneto
Not fair, Niitsuma has Neo_G on his team. If Dimps borrowed him for DS4, it'd be the same level of battle system. The only battle director as skilled as him is working on Resident Evil 6. Besides, Niitsuma gets to work in MT Framework with a lot of people super experienced in that engine. Ono got SF4 on a prayer, I wouldn't be surprised if Vanilla Marvel had the bigger budget.
biosnake20
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Karsticles
Member
It's not like Neo_G is a possession that only Niitsuma can own. I'm sure Ono could have run things by him. IIRC, we've read quite a few interviews with Niitsuma saying he wishes he could have had Ono's budget.
Agreed - great mechanic. The only problem with MvC3 in terms of battle features is TACs.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
IIRC, SSFIV was pretty decent in terms of balance, until AE...
Things Nitsuma has done:
-Vanilla Phoenix
-Vanilla Wolverine
-X Factor
-DLC Glitch
-TAC nonsense
He's just as bad as Ono, the only difference is that he has Neo_G on his side and that gives him an advantage.
While I don't disagree that the art style for SFIV isn't...aesthetically pleasing to the eyes, it's not like Nitsuma was even given a chance to fuck that up. Marvel wouldn't have let anything like that fly. lol
I'd want Nitsuma to make VS for certain, but he's done some of the same shit Ono has...
Things Nitsuma has done:
-Vanilla Phoenix
-Vanilla Wolverine
-X Factor
-DLC Glitch
-TAC nonsense
He's just as bad as Ono, the only difference is that he has Neo_G on his side and that gives him an advantage.
While I don't disagree that the art style for SFIV isn't...aesthetically pleasing to the eyes, it's not like Nitsuma was even given a chance to fuck that up. Marvel wouldn't have let anything like that fly. lol
I'd want Nitsuma to make VS for certain, but he's done some of the same shit Ono has...
x-factor would be a great mechanic if it wasn't so horribly implemented. there shouldn't be an xf1 or xf2. each kill you get in xf3 should reduce your available xfactor time.
crimsonspider89
Banned
And that was due to the budget and time constraints which Nitsuma has been open about. He knows that some broken things made it through but he didn't have the money or time to make things as he wanted.
High level play at its finest... my god. @_@
Honestly, I used to have a lot of trouble with Haggar's normals, but I've gotten good with my spacing to not have a problem with them anymore. What kills me is that freaking lariat. I hate dropping a hit confirm and running face first into that thing and getting ToD for my troubles.
Viewtiful Joe's slowdown is such an amazing tool that most of the Joe players don't really use.
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