A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Stupid Iron Man costing me matches already.
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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT3| To infinites... and beyond!
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There. Much better.
eventhubs put out an anchor tier list, demonstrating their inability to do anything right:
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/...imate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-eventhubs-community/
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/...imate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-eventhubs-community/
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I tried to main Modok but I always get choked when it came to specific characters online/lobby/etc.
Stopped reading that anchor tier list when they included fucking Dorm, Doom and Wesker with the holy trinity of anchor characters.
The assist tier on the otherhand is not that bad aside from Bolts and Spitfire being a bit lower as well as Felicia's Rolling Buckler:
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/...imate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-eventhubs-community/
The assist tier on the otherhand is not that bad aside from Bolts and Spitfire being a bit lower as well as Felicia's Rolling Buckler:
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/...imate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-eventhubs-community/
Now?
That vid is old my nukka.
You should watch this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJItB_3c5QI
Doom and Dorm shouldn't be in S, but I think Wesker should be the lowest in S/Highest in A.
Skrull too
"God's Beard!"
Member
Magneto is a better anchor than Strider. Come at me.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Dr. Strange below Zero lol.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
"God's Beard!"
Member
Holy Trinity of Anchors:
Magneto, Dr.Strange, Sentinel
Magneto, Dr.Strange, Sentinel
Didn't realize this was that old too.
The MODOK and Spiderman subforums in SRK. They're always active and they've got a small number of dedicated posters that are very good with them.
The same guy (Nos99) put this video up in October that shows how a team of Magneto/MODOK can kill any character off Magneto throw and 1 bar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPLumklT0_g&list=UL
itzknickknac
Member
Why are they setting me up against 9th's and 8th's? I've been losing and I'm back to fighter so wtf?
And wow, haven't played against a skilled zero before... x_x
and frank is becoming part of my salt-tier list
And wow, haven't played against a skilled zero before... x_x
and frank is becoming part of my salt-tier list
Want to play me so you can feel better about yourself?
itzknickknac
Member
Lol sure. I think I need a break from (edit: getting) pwnt
You can do the same whiffed hyper trick with Skrull and Tron. You can do the same whiff trick with Spencer, but it doesn't do a lot of hits.
He had 1.3 million health in one of the later builds. :'(
I still can't believe his c.L is NINE frames.
Killa Sasa
Member
I've been messing around with Task+RR and they seem to work pretty well with each other. Taskmaster doesn't seem bad at converting if log trap assist hits- he can wavedash in and either use fwd.H or shield skills to convert into a full combo. Log trap+arrows gives you a good amount of total projectile durability to help zone too- 19 low durability points with charged arrows. If you land the counter hyper, you can DHC into mad hopper and get a pretty standard RR combo afterward. If Taskmaster just does the counter into legion arrow, he gets around 450k for his two bars, but by going into mad hopper, you can get similar damage, but you end up with less net meter loss (exact amount depends on your post mad hopper combo, of course), and you can also keep up pressure and set up oki stuff much better than if you had just gone into legion arrow after the counter. If Task could TAC infinite off of more than one direction, a landed counter hyper could probably lead to a dead character two thirds of the time.
Rocket can DHC nicely into Task (but who can't?) which is nice, as many characters are difficult to DHC to from regular RR BnBs. We all know Task has good assists, though I'm not sure exactly how good horizontal arrows are for RR as opposed to other similar assists.
If I go ahead and try to make this a full-fledged team, who do you guys think would be a good third? I was considering Ammy for the good lockdown for RR and Moons demonstrated how Ammy can work together with Taskmaster- nice safety/pressure options and that THC technology. You guys have any other ideas?
Rocket can DHC nicely into Task (but who can't?) which is nice, as many characters are difficult to DHC to from regular RR BnBs. We all know Task has good assists, though I'm not sure exactly how good horizontal arrows are for RR as opposed to other similar assists.
If I go ahead and try to make this a full-fledged team, who do you guys think would be a good third? I was considering Ammy for the good lockdown for RR and Moons demonstrated how Ammy can work together with Taskmaster- nice safety/pressure options and that THC technology. You guys have any other ideas?
Karsticles
Member
Thanks! I'm changing the team's order to abuse some mechanics, and I think it'll be better next time.
Great! You likely have corrected my inputs, I was sort of guessing based on seeing it happen on streams, haha.
The thing about Wesker is most people suck ass with him. I cannot count how many times a Wesker is facing my Dormammu down, we're both in crouching block, and he tries c.L. The answer to all Wesker woes is: not enough command grabs.
America, fuck yeah!
Eventhubs made that awesome character walk speed list for Vanilla, and I'd love to see it return.
This list is truly awful, though. I can see Dr. Doom being #1 simply because part of being an anchor is supporting your team so you don't have to be played, and he can legitimately make comebacks, but I'd put him in A, not S. If this system weren't stupid...
Dr. Strange's big problem is that he can't cross-up against cornered opponents.
The only advantage is that it comes out instantly on a DHC. Not worth it cause you're now spending 4 bars for crap damage, but there are times where it can work, i.e. point blank bionic arm, DHC level 3 if they didn't jump. It's a gimmick.
I still say that move was originally going to anti-air grab too, based on the whiff animation.
SolarKnight
Member
How? With his machine gun super I'd expect the opposite.
As for your question of a third character, I'd definitely say Ammy.
Characters who are strong with low execution requirements? Wesker, wolverine, hulk, sentinel, captain america, taskmaster (maybe?), Doom- I'm sure there are others that aren't coming to mind.
Professor Beef
Banned
Wesker
Ryu (kinda)
Nova
Frank
Wolverine
Captain America
Sentinel
Hulk
Arthur
Ghost Rider
Akuma
Not in any particular order, btw
Don't you have to learn Tridashing with Doom though?
"God's Beard!"
Member
Professor Beef
Banned
It's not as hard as you might think. It's hard because it's weird, mainly.
I should've clarified- if you're mid screen when you land the machine gun hyper, if you let the final blue homing shot come out, they end up kind of high and will air recover before they're low enough for a lot of other hypers (like Dante's million dollars) to hit. Task can do l+h legion arrow after RR shoots the final shot and everything connects fully.
I was trying to practice it with mag and it just seemed hard as fuck. I can do it, but its extremely slow. I go a lot faster by just dash canceling.
For mags, on or near the ground, he is often better off wave dashing, but tri-dashing is still intrumental for his high/low/throw game once he gets in. Some characters like Doom simply have no choice. Do you play on stick or pad?
You can add Nemesis, Haggar, Vergil, Taskmaster and Hawkeye in there as well.
WesternHeretic
Member
Plink it. Dash with MH, and slide to L. Works 100% of the time. Basically Ring finger, middle finger, index finger from H > M > L. Piano style.
Professor Beef
Banned
Vergil and Taskmaster aren't low execution.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Yeah Vergil and Taskmaster are just stupid.
Wesker, nova, Captain America, Skrull, Frank, Vergil, Taskmaster, Dormamu, and Akums.
They are. You can do basic as shit combos with both and do respectable damage, their slightly better combos aren't hard to do. Vergil has no real neutral game, he pokes and does teleports with occasional Round Trip (also not hard to do). Taskmaster is a walking option select anyway, his neutral is easy to learn, its all about fundamentals with the character which has nothing to do with execution.
I mean if Sentinel was listed in that post then these two qualify for sure.
"God's Beard!"
Member
God's Beard's combo challenge of the year:
Using Magneto, do 750,000 damage for no meter and no x-factor, with no TACs.
Using Magneto, do 750,000 damage for no meter and no x-factor, with no TACs.
kevo_huevo
Member
Yep, that about covers all the characters I've tried to learn (excluding taskmaster). But yeah, I know my own execution barrier.
WesternHeretic
Member
What about raw tag?
"God's Beard!"
Member
Perfectly acceptable, assuming most of the combo comes from Magneto. By the way, my current record is 767,600 damage, with no raw tags.
Stick
As much as I bitch and moan about Dante, I've at least been successful in completing his combos, my problem with him is just consistency. Vergil was the very first character I wanted to play and I still can't complete a single combo of his.(sword loop combo specifically)
SolarKnight
Member
I was about to ask about the lobby actually.
i was planning on playing for a while in the lobby but something came up. :[
WesternHeretic
Member
So not fun though. Maybe I just love doing long ass combo but I rather get to enjoy the character. =(