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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT3| To infinites... and beyond!
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Karsticles
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Superjump earlier than you think you need to. The best way to learn hypergrav loops is to pop Magneto into XF3 and start out just doing s.H x qcb.L over and over, then try to do the actual loops. This is helpful because you don't need to actually set up the hypergrav loop to start learning it. Alternatively, put Wesker on your team, put the opponent in the corner, do an ABC combo, OTG and start hypergrav loops.
Ah, that makes more sense. So the move actually connects in 1F no matter what it is? Does that mean you can do like j.H x j.H and both hit together, though one at F1 and the other at whatever frame it normally would? It's interesting, but I wonder if it will actually affect the neutral. I can't see using this with any of my characters.
Then do it off of an assist!
Ew no. I'd do it with Phoenix, though.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Does Fin Fang Foom stop Dark Phoenix Rising?
Karsticles
Member
No clue - test it real quick? I'm assuming it doesn't. If it does, then I'd rather different cards be used, since Dark Phoenix is what I really need to practice with.
So apparently someone likes to steal my combos and make them their own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5pRt2AVjec
All stolen from my Ultimate Exhibition 1 vid from last year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5pRt2AVjec
All stolen from my Ultimate Exhibition 1 vid from last year.
Karsticles
Member
Yeah, but he added really annoying screen effects. Don't forget all the work that took!
Is it within your ability to force Youtube to make him take it down?
Also Caj, would you be at all interested in trying to figure out a bit of synergy between two of my characters for me? You and Solune are the combo masters here, and I'm totally stumped.
Edit: Man, that guy has a lot of combo videos. I wonder if they're all stolen.
Edti2: Watching this Trish/Frank West on stream has convinced me of the pairing. Very good synergy between them.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
GG's Louse
SousedLouse
Member
Yeah, GGs. Thanks for the matches.
Which team or variation did you want work on?
Karsticles
Member
Haggar/MODOK/Shuma-Gorath in Winner's Finals at Armshouse:
http://www.twitch.tv/armshouse
j.S, s.LMH, f.H + Dark Hole, qcf.H, Astral Vision, qcf.S, fly, j.S, s.S, sj.MMHS, qcf.S, Shadow Servant
This does about 600K and is meter neutral while stealing 1.5 bars of meter from my opponent.
I'm looking for something similar between Morrigan and Phoenix for when Dormammu is down. Basically, a way for Morrigan to combo into Astral Vision and land Soul Drain afterward, or even land Soul Drain at all using one of Phoenix's assists. Of her three assists, TK Shot seems the most likely, because TK Overdrive pushes opponents too far away and TK Trap does the same but at an odd angle. I feel like there has to be something here, but I just can't find it.
I'm really looking for a way to do good damage with Morrigan on point when it's just her and Phoenix left, ideally while also activating Astral Vision and remaining close to meter neutral (-0.5 bars is fine, though, since it's unlikely that my opponent will hit Morrigan, snap Phoenix in, and kill her before generating that much meter through damaging me).
Tech I've discovered between them that might help your considerations if you're willing to help:
Morrigan Throw, Shadow Servant -> Healing Field, teleport M, call Dark Harmonizer, s.H, f.H, qcb.L, f.H, qcb.L, c.HS, sj.MMHS, tk.L, dp.H - ~600K damage, -1 bar of meter, but you get a Dark Harmonizer call right after the combo ends to make it -0.7 bars of meter, so it's not a bad deal.
Morrigan combo, TAC to Phoenix, j.MH, f.H, fly, j.MH, f.H, qcf.L, Phoenix Rage -> Astral Vision, qcf.S - does decent damage, but I'm down 1.4 bars of meter at the end of this. If I could find a way to consistently combo into a second Soul Drain and bring myself to -0.8 bars of meter, I'd be satisfied with this setup, but I can't seem to find a way to always position Phoenix Rage off of any TAC anywhere on the screen that makes it possible, even when I use Burn Out Beak.
If you're able to come up with anything, I would be very grateful. I'm reasonably happy with my Dormammu/Phoenix and Dormammu/Morrigan tech, but then again you're the deity in this realm, so maybe you'd stumble upon something there as well, haha.
http://www.twitch.tv/armshouse
I'm using Dormammu/Morrigan/Phoenix, and with Morrigan/Dormammu I can do this:
j.S, s.LMH, f.H + Dark Hole, qcf.H, Astral Vision, qcf.S, fly, j.S, s.S, sj.MMHS, qcf.S, Shadow Servant
This does about 600K and is meter neutral while stealing 1.5 bars of meter from my opponent.
I'm looking for something similar between Morrigan and Phoenix for when Dormammu is down. Basically, a way for Morrigan to combo into Astral Vision and land Soul Drain afterward, or even land Soul Drain at all using one of Phoenix's assists. Of her three assists, TK Shot seems the most likely, because TK Overdrive pushes opponents too far away and TK Trap does the same but at an odd angle. I feel like there has to be something here, but I just can't find it.
I'm really looking for a way to do good damage with Morrigan on point when it's just her and Phoenix left, ideally while also activating Astral Vision and remaining close to meter neutral (-0.5 bars is fine, though, since it's unlikely that my opponent will hit Morrigan, snap Phoenix in, and kill her before generating that much meter through damaging me).
Tech I've discovered between them that might help your considerations if you're willing to help:
Morrigan Throw, Shadow Servant -> Healing Field, teleport M, call Dark Harmonizer, s.H, f.H, qcb.L, f.H, qcb.L, c.HS, sj.MMHS, tk.L, dp.H - ~600K damage, -1 bar of meter, but you get a Dark Harmonizer call right after the combo ends to make it -0.7 bars of meter, so it's not a bad deal.
Morrigan combo, TAC to Phoenix, j.MH, f.H, fly, j.MH, f.H, qcf.L, Phoenix Rage -> Astral Vision, qcf.S - does decent damage, but I'm down 1.4 bars of meter at the end of this. If I could find a way to consistently combo into a second Soul Drain and bring myself to -0.8 bars of meter, I'd be satisfied with this setup, but I can't seem to find a way to always position Phoenix Rage off of any TAC anywhere on the screen that makes it possible, even when I use Burn Out Beak.
If you're able to come up with anything, I would be very grateful. I'm reasonably happy with my Dormammu/Phoenix and Dormammu/Morrigan tech, but then again you're the deity in this realm, so maybe you'd stumble upon something there as well, haha.
Karsticles
Member
Many thanks to you sir.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
What assist with dante? Cause bolts of ballsacks isn't a good mix up tool for cap.
If you are using cap you goal is to have one assist that helps with zoning and one that lets you do left right mix ups
"God's Beard!"
Member
Unibeam is like Grand Elder Guru on planet Namek unlocking Captain America's secret potential.
I'm on PS3. I'll send you a friend request later.
Bolts makes charging star safer on block, I think it's completely safe if you time it right. Weasel shot and jam session help him out a bit. I like the staggered nature of bolts with Cap. It's interesting.
I love Marvel GAF. :lol
So I just found out that doing six reps of two bullet shot loops is not only do-able but is weirdly easier than what I thought was the current theoretical max (4 two bullet reps into 2 ma bullet reps). I'm also this close to making a shot loop variant that doesn't use a wall bounce thanks to Vajra and Burn Kick assists. Having them fall out of the air onto the latter or get HKD'd by the former should set up some fun stuff.
Karsticles
Member
Found this MODOK fan art and wanted to share:
Trying to find poll data and never been on Pixiv before. This place is organized strangely...
Trying to find poll data and never been on Pixiv before. This place is organized strangely...
JeTmAn81
Member
This seems like gibberish, which must mean it's a Dragon Ball Z reference.
Well I thumbs down the video, I think you can contact youtube to have the video removed. That's just incredibly dumb.
Man, Marvel meta outside of NA is always so interesting.
nah, its just bad
Karsticles
Member
The fundamentals might not be as sharp, but the teams are just as strong.
maybe, but i'm watching this joe player get outzoned by Pipe/Lariat+mystic ray b/c he just holds forwards. Modok was barely even used. And then he gets a touch and can't do anything with it.
Karsticles
Member
The Joe player has to put breaks in his keepaway game because Mystic Ray wipes the screen clean, and Haggar eats the Voomerangs so Shuma-Gorath is safe on the assist call. I thought the Viewtiful Joe was a step above Dieminion's personally. His MODOK was probably the weakest of his three characters.
Live? want a 14 day card?
did you all see the 2012 marvel hype video? i love it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v32S7s9NRd0
Maybe, but he was even missing kills with dark x23
Maybe, but he was even missing kills with dark x23
Not comparing their skill level to NA, JPN and EU always have more interesting teams. Just a fact.
holy shit honzo gonzo put out a full character guide to beating lightning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wi0mKqDtaxg
I SJ as soon as Magneto's able to. My problem is I don't know what height I my sj should reach before I dash d/f and do j.H
I don't have trouble getting the initial hypergrav.
Karsticles
Member
It was okay. I wished I could have seen what made most of those moments hype beyond the players involved. Everything went by too quick with too little reference. It's hilarious how many of those involved FChamp, though.
Like I said, the play isn't as good, but the teams are interesting and worth considering. I didn't even know Viewtiful Joe could use X-23 to get full combos from an air throw.
:-O *watches*
Zero should be at superjump height though.
Also, why is it that people always mess up their spelling when calling someone else an idiot? "Lighting".
"God's Beard!"
Member
Trolling is a art.
Karsticles
Member
Input Nullification glitch video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9CdMofaoz4&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9CdMofaoz4&feature=youtu.be
Killa Sasa
Member
Truest statement in any marvel thread ever.
Steve and Tony are brothers till the end.
LOOK AT THOSE GOD DAMN OVERHEADS!
Karsticles
Member
It's funny to think about how long it took for someone to pair two Avengers together.
THIS IS THE BEST GAME EVER.
I just felt like typing that. I love this game.
Even funnier is that the movie itself spoiled it. Cap with Unibeam assist is canon for potency.
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS
*been playin' UMVC3 since it has been released, almost non-stop*
*cries*
Not only that, Most Zero players are gonna have Jam Session/Rapid Slash/X backing them up. It is almost never done raw.
Very very helpful for flight combos. Back to the lab~
Karsticles
Member
They usually don't call those assists while using the buster, though, since they tend to superjump with Zero beforehand. The assists usually come in the post-buster mix-up period (and it really is a "period", as with Vergil).
Zero pisses me off because the buster auto-corrects, so if I Mass Change he still gets me. -_-
You let me know what you find for Dormammu! >_>
Slightly off-topic, I'm so glad flight only takes one button in this game. I hated doing fly/unfly with Sentinel in MvC2.
Really though, I don't think I've run into Zeroes that go into another lightning after Buster nowadays. Everyone's dancing around with Lightning M/H - Buster - Hienkyaku L and making it work.
I still want to come up with something fancy for Devil Trigger after the demonstration of Input Nullification.
I still want to come up with something fancy for Devil Trigger after the demonstration of Input Nullification.
biosnake20
Member
So this glitch makes the infinites easier for all flight characters?
Karsticles
Member
I suppose Sentinel just got another dimension of space coverage if I'm understanding it right.
"God's Beard!"
Member
But people already do unfly jM really close to the ground.
I guess we should wait until more people start experimenting with it outside combos.
Maximillian's Online Warrior - What's the best Marvel?
UMVC3 is the best Marvel to me. I actually dig all of them.
LMAO @ Max getting T-bagg'd by a Hulk player. Hulk's T-bag looks hilarious.
Maximillian's Online Warrior - What's the best Marvel?
UMVC3 is the best Marvel to me. I actually dig all of them.
LMAO @ Max getting T-bagg'd by a Hulk player. Hulk's T-bag looks hilarious.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Guess could be used to give flight characters who do't have safe blockstrings safe blockstrings.
IDK.
IDK.
Karsticles
Member
UMvC3 is the best Marvel, no doubt. It actually baffles me that some people feel differently. It has its share of problems, but it's still the best thing ever made in fighting games.
Anyway, I wonder if this input nullification works with specials. If I input qcb.S+L with Dormammu, I wonder what happens...do I just get j.L?