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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT3| To infinites... and beyond!
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I pulled off a lightning loop for the first time last night. I am in shock.
Extra crispy or original recipe?
New style or old tiger-knee style?
Karsticles
Member
Anything can combo extend if you know how to use it right. Wesker's OTG assist is the most commonly used.
I am interested.
New style, but a slight variation that worked for me. Probably does slightly less damage, but new style.
I also end it differently to get hard knock down. Allows me to be lazy and go into Rekkoha if I want instead of another Sougenmu (because, really, at that point not much more should be necessary to kill).
And when I say I did it, I can do it sometimes in training. Not nearly ready for primetime, yet.
And I am interested in ranbats / tourney.
I think so. It's an OTG that hits low and is a projectile (allowing some space between your assist and your opponent).
I like using hidden missiles for it's OTG ability, but only for reset situations. And for Spencer upgrapple bullshit, of course.
I want to try it out. I have no intention of playing Zero, but I'd be neat to be able to say you can pull it off.
racketpunch
Member
I pulled off a lightning loop for the first time last night
How do you get a fully charged buster after cancelling into Shadow Clones? I can never get that to even begin the lightning loop. I swear I'm charging asap from using the previous buster.
Start charging as soon as you cancel into super after Dive Kick xx Lv3 Buster. I usually activate super with M and H and then neutral jump, buster, begin loop.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
If I had my way I'd be playing Marn's Zero/Vergil/Strider. And I'd use the Mega Man outfit too!
I just keep the button held down from doing the light lightning after the initial buster for the charge. The rest is just making sure they're elevated enough so you can jump up and Buster them into oblivion.
You actually have more time than you think you do to jump up and Buster.
If that works, that's awesome too. I start charging during Raikousen lol.
If I figure this out to do it regularly, I'll probably finally make that real push to Zero / Nova / Vergil.
"God's Beard!"
Member
My three favorite OTG assists are Hidden Missiles, Low Shot and Ankle Slicer. They all have other uses, which is nice. Ankle Slicer in particular is basically a slower Low Shot that can hit multiple characters. Hidden Missiles is my favorite by far because you can do 2 or three extra moves between the missile hits and then call another assist immediately as it ends. Not to mention that you can OTG twice with Hidden Missiles if you're clever or Spencer.
As long as it ends before February.
Onion_Relish
Member
This might seem like a dumb question, but given marvels button configuration, is it actually possible to get really good marvel play on the vita? I've played extremely high level street fighter before, but I don't really feel like sf x tekken is the game for me. I love marvel and what little I played I really enjoyed even though it was so foreign to me for the button set ups. I was able to complete every single skill challenege for both vanilla and super street fighter 4, so I'm not worried my execution is lacking, I just wonder I'd the vita button schema will take that power away from me?
SolarKnight
Member
I WOULD LIKE TO SIGN UP
to the list of people that have an interest in this happening.
Professor Beef
Banned
Let's all point and laugh at SolarKnight...'s sombrero.
SolarKnight
Member
Can I point and laugh at Masaru's Santa beard instead?
racketpunch
Member
I'm interested (PSN)
I don't think using the Vita button scheme will hurt at all, it's essentially using default except one of your assists will be the Right trigger, which I don't like, Both of my assists are usually mapped to the left triggers. Other than that you should be fine except for X-factor, you'll have to be fast unless your hand is not gripping the Vita.
I pulled off a lightning loop for the first time last night
Did you do the "2013" Version? I managed to pull off the first half, but I don't know if the second half you're supposed to do TK Lightnings or not, because you can tell by the number of hits that it's not optimized...
Yeah, with a different starter to it so I could end it with a divekick for the hard knock down. And I know I screwed up the first half since I did an extra light Raikousen before the medium one, so it wasn't "optimized".
The damage is still ridiculous, though, and being able to end it with a divekick means I can just Rekkoha and end it without risk of dropping the combo if they still live. Which is important.
It could be fun. 360 here.
Onion_Relish
Member
Can you map xfactor to an input like select or the touch screen? If so then its manageable
Hmm. So for the second half, do you perform it the same as the first half? They look like TK Lightnings in the video but I couldn't tell...
Also Yah the damage is insane, in the video, it's 570k, but it looks like you can do more damage if it's possible to optimize the second half. 570k for one meter. fuck.
Haha actually, I have a Vita but no Vita version so, hopefully someone like Nert can answer our questions!
The times I pulled it off, yes. I actually didn't even jump straight up, I jumped up-back and then raikousened. I didn't TK.
JeTmAn81
Member
I played someone last night who could seemingly do every combo with every character. Magneto ROM, Doom swag combos, charging with Vergil, etc. If he'd picked Zero I wouldnt have been surprised to see him lightning loop. So yeah if you're a good enough pad player you can do it all on Vita.
Thanks alot, this is very helpful as I'm planning to go back to Zero.
Are you able to map X-factor to touch screen controls Jetman?
JeTmAn81
Member
No, you can only map buttons to the face buttons on the right and the L/R triggers.
i'm interested.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Anybody want to have a mini-tournament tonight on PSN? I'll make an 8-person lobby and I'll make a little bracket. We'll rotate FT5s, single elimination. Just turn on spectate when it's not your turn.
Say around, 8PM PST.
Say around, 8PM PST.
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Karsticles
Member
I'm iffy. It's my wife's day off from work, so we'll probably be doing stuff together.
ILL Virtue
Neo Member
Def interested
Killa Sasa
Member
Could be interested in 360 side tourney.
The captain deserves some more burn, as does my new ultimate throwback. Nova applies directly to forehead.
But srsly, Steve needs more play. A good alternate for when I'm thinking too much with Parker, and it gives me an excuse to use Mr top tier in fun himself, iron guy.
The captain deserves some more burn, as does my new ultimate throwback. Nova applies directly to forehead.
But srsly, Steve needs more play. A good alternate for when I'm thinking too much with Parker, and it gives me an excuse to use Mr top tier in fun himself, iron guy.
I'm interested.
Funny you say that I had a bright smile every time it happened i dunno why
.Oh I definitely felt desperation. Every time I saw that succubus and I didn't punish it I cursed a little bit inside. It makes the opponent do more mistakes to force his way than normal so it's a different angle than the usual RTSD teams.
Dully noted and will work on setups for it. I know it has been a while but other than dropped combos from lack of experience is there other things I should look at ?
I'll swap out Magneto for Nova on my team then from the looks of it if I want to experiment with him. It won't change too much the structure but still allow for a different outlook on match flow.
Yeah it's not like I'm running around the continent doing tournaments. I'll probably try my hand at a local in Montreal this year however. It still won't matter much if I don't have fun doing it.
I've read so much on "waahhh Sent has so many bad matchups" that it stuck with me but then I faced your team with Doom alone. I don't think it'll hurt much to put Sent at the back of the bus. Plus I'll get more opportunity to do swag combos with Doom
if I ever land one variation in training mode someday *cough*
Professor Beef
Banned
My goal of at least 16 people being interested has been reached. I'll see if I can't get a thread up sometime this weekend for the whole shebangabang.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Wait we are banging something now?
Professor Beef
Banned
Your stick.
Karsticles
Member
Funny you say that I had a bright smile every time it happened i dunno why
She's very hard to hit, and you're never going to punish the call. She's only vulnerable for the first 10 frames when she arrives on the screen. If you played Vanilla Marvel, she has the vulnerability of Vanilla Double Lariat assist, but it's the first 10 frames instead of the last 10 frames. You have a better chance of punishing an Akuma tatsu assist up close. God's Beard catches the assist call a lot with X-23 because all of her normals hit twice, so there's a much stronger chance of the random catch. I'll even call her during an opponent's blockstring breaks and she won't get hit. Basically, the second you see her make her pose, she's invulnerable.
I felt like your Sentinel needed to go for command grab setups more often.
Interesting idea.
Rayray plays a very convincing Sentinel anchor. Sentinel has a lot of bad matchups, but so does Doom. IMO, Sentinel's worst matchups still aren't quite as bad as Doom's just because Sentinel has more options.
Fantabulous!
"God's Beard!"
Member
That's the whole reason for my "song and dance" on the ground and why I put X-23 on point. Morrigan ruins everything. You can tell when I'm fishing for the assist because I'll do a lot of neck slicers or gunshot ground teleports in a row. I love picking out assists more than hitting your point character. Also why I was thinking about Magneto/Dormammu/Morrigan.
Haha ok, well after training for another hour or so. I can't get the new loop at all. The info helped me nail it a few times but I've completed about 10% of the time. It's not easier for me at all. So i may or may not go with Zero.
I have a renewed love for Spencer/Vergil/Doom. I like actually being able to hit buttons and having access to safe dhcs and a ghetto DHC glitch.
I'm having a weird situation here. I feel like I want to learn some teams that have nothing in common with one another outside of Dante, and also to have some counter pick teams for certain match ups. At the same time, Viper/Dante/Strider is packed with nuances that need exploring and I don't feel like I'm fundamentally sound enough to bounce between multiple teams yet. If I had to make a list right now, these would be the one's I'd invest in:
Viper (Burn Kick)/Dante (Jam Session)/Strider (Vajra)
Dante (Jam Session)/Dormammu (Dark Hole or Liberation)/Magneto (Estaka)
The last team has to fill a niche I haven't covered between the two preferably without any repeat characters. I guess the long and short of this post is that I'm "bored" and want to explore something I haven't dedicated myself to.
Viper (Burn Kick)/Dante (Jam Session)/Strider (Vajra)
Dante (Jam Session)/Dormammu (Dark Hole or Liberation)/Magneto (Estaka)
The last team has to fill a niche I haven't covered between the two preferably without any repeat characters. I guess the long and short of this post is that I'm "bored" and want to explore something I haven't dedicated myself to.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Reason why Sent is a better anchor is hard drive and cr. M. Those things are really good tools that Sent can use. Doom, has footdive. Much easier for Sent to survive incoming or catch people jumping.
Sorcerer Supreme
Member
Well my XBL gold subscription expired today and I have absolutely no desire to re-sub seeing as I only played UMVC3 on the system.
It's back to PSN for me :<
It's back to PSN for me :<
Karsticles
Member
It's all about screen position. Try raw tagging from various character positions and you'll get a feel for it.
Add yourself in on the spreadsheet and friend up.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Where's the tournament being held?
Sorcerer Supreme
Member
I forgot to say I'm also interested!
Karsticles
Member
Interesting Wright team on TRB: Trish/Wright/RR. I'm not big on RR, but Trish/Wright is really interesting. Wright gives her desperately needed unblockables, and she can Round Harvest - Wright tag to land Objection or collect evidence. I'm not sure who the third should be, but that's an interesting pair right there.
Professor Beef
Banned
It's cool, it's not happening this weekend. That's just when I'm making the thread. You've still got at least a week if you still are interested.