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TEAM TUTORIALS VOLUME 1. ZERO/DOOM/VERGIL PART 1 by Viscant

 

[SnakeSlashRO]

I know this is off topic, but after seeing how a Skullgirls DLC character made 150,000 in a single day on indiegogo I thought it might be interesting if capcom used the site or kickstarter to fund dlc for future games. Maybe go by character votes, then pledges and offer gifts and other merchandise as prizes for pledging.

I would kill for more mahvel or an all capcom fighter in the style of tvc/mvc3

 

[SolarPowered]

I know this is off topic, but after seeing how a Skullgirls DLC character made 150,000 in a single day on indiegogo I thought it might be interesting if capcom used the site or kickstarter to fund dlc for future games. Maybe go by character votes, then pledges and offer gifts and other merchandise as prizes for pledging.

I would kill for more mahvel or an all capcom fighter in the style of tvc/mvc3

You are really pushing this hard, I see. We couldn't afford to pay what Capcom does and they've got the money to make it happen without us funding a grown publisher.

They are messing around a bit, of course.

 

[Frantic]

All I know about the airdash stuff is that Jam Session is going to eventually see a lot more use at high level.

Cacpcom, masters of hitbubbles.

 

[fader]

It's sort of a plink dash that you can only do with the one button dash button that makes dashing and air dashing much faster for certain characters. It also at the same time option selects in a throw when it's done or something like that. Characters like Magneto, Storm, Doom, Dormammu, Trish, Morrigan, etc. have much faster air movement and characters on the ground like Spencer and Dante have faster ground dash movement. Not that good of an explanation but someone else might be able to elaborate further.

you pretty much nailed it. you put L+M+H on one button and use that as your dashing. its extremely practical and making dashing so much easier.


They recorded a video, i think they might put it up soon or if your subbed to fgtvlive watch the replays.

only thing that worries me is people may pridefully ignore it not wanting to do it but i think this is how you can optimize so many of the cast.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

I've been doing that for 2 years

 

[fader]

seems like you and chris are ahead of the curve

 

[Azure J]

EDIT: LOL

Dem hit globes.

"Her tits are perky, let them anti-air!"

Capcom/8ing logic.

you pretty much nailed it. you put L+M+H on one button and use that as your dashing. its extremely practical and making dashing so much easier.


They recorded a video, i think they might put it up soon or if your subbed to fgtvlive watch the replays.

only thing that worries me is people may pridefully ignore it not wanting to do it but i think this is how you can optimize so many of the cast.

And people were telling me this was new... *hipster mode*

 

[kevo_huevo]

hitbox looking like a giant dong

 

[mr. puppy]

Viscant thinks Missiles is better for Vergil than Plasma Beam?

Zero/Doom/Vergil breakdown: http://blog.brokentier.com/362/team-tutorials-volume-1-zerodoomvergil-part-1/

 

[enzo_gt]

I need video of whatever air dash nonsense went on on FGTV last night.

 

[Professor Beef]

I need video of whatever air dash nonsense went on on FGTV last night.

I hope you have an FGTV sub!

 

[Dahbomb]

TEAM TUTORIALS VOLUME 1. ZERO/DOOM/VERGIL PART 1 by Viscant

Yea this team is going to come in the meta soon. If Justin ever gets motivated enough with it and if Chris Schmidt starts visiting more tourneys.

 

[Zissou]

Viscant thinks Missiles is better for Vergil than Plasma Beam?

Zero/Doom/Vergil breakdown: http://blog.brokentier.com/362/team-tutorials-volume-1-zerodoomvergil-part-1/

Seems he thinks missiles are better in match-ups where Zero won't have difficulty protecting the assist. It makes sense.

 

[Karsticles]

I'm on if anyone wants matches.

 

[WesternHeretic]

If only Vergil had Jam Session that team would be 100% complete. But Viscant said something that I want to elaborate more of and that's it's not easy to get a incoming mixup with Zero + missiles (if the initial mix up fails). With Jam session there's layer upon layer.

For example mixups #1 can lead to 1)A, or 1)B (depending on if they block etc).. If Example 1 fails. You can go right into mixup #2 which leads to 2)A, or 2)B.

You don't have that without JS. So if they block the first incoming mix up it's back to the neutral game. And the fear of Zero turning it into a 1P game is dramatically decreased.

Zero/Dante/Strider still the best Zero team imo. It just a matter of can you turn all the Dante theory to reality.

 

[Marz]

I always just pressed 2 buttons to dash (l & m) its gonna kind of suck to have to learn movement stuff and muscle memory for combos over again

I guess using lmh gives you a throw option select as well?

 

[Anth0ny]

I'm still trying to understand how that airdash shit from FGTV works.

You map one button to LMHS and this somehow gives Magneto the ability to dash like he's on crack?

 

[The Mango Sentinel]

Viscant thinks Missiles is better for Vergil than Plasma Beam?

Zero/Doom/Vergil breakdown: http://blog.brokentier.com/362/team-tutorials-volume-1-zerodoomvergil-part-1/

Ehhh I dunno about that shit. Then again I play Chris so I don't really fear missiles. 3 magnum shots after one bad call and then they have to think twice about it for a while.

 

[Dartastic]

I'm still trying to understand how that airdash shit from FGTV works.

You map one button to LMHS and this somehow gives Magneto the ability to dash like he's on crack?

Wait what?

 

[Dahbomb]

The input is H plinked into L + M + H plus a direction preferably up/forward while in flight mode.

All parts of the dashes are OSing throws compared to people doing L plinked to M + H or something.

 

[XxSlasherMcGirkxX]

GGs earlier Karst. Goddamn Phoenix team is hard for me.

*grumbles and goes back to playing MGS Rising

 

[A Pretty Panda]

I remember Clakey D talking about this at the beginning of Vanilla.

Unless I'm misunderstanding what FChamp is doing, I assumed all top player had been doing this the past 2 years too.

I used to do it but dropped it in favor of regular wavedashing because I sucked and got H on occasion.

 

[Dahbomb]

That was plink dashing this is a modified and better version of it.

If you do this right your input will show L then M and H on top of each other followed by another L then M and H on top of each other.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

Wait so what exactly is the sequence of button presses?

The old way shows H then L+M

I think I got it

No it's actually the same exact thing lol.

At least for pad.

 

[Azure J]

Wait so what exactly is the sequence of button presses?

The old way shows H then L+M

I think I got it

No it's actually the same exact thing lol.

At least for pad.

Methinks pad warriors aren't going to notice much difference especially if they're already doing something with H plinks. It's some real shit, but I still haven't seen the big "who" everyone's getting currently since I've been H to M plinking my dashes forever.

 

[Dahbomb]

H to M plinking doesn't give you the same option selects. Chris was just back dashing non stop and FChamp was teleporting with Phoenix which Chris grabbed everytime because of the OS.

 

[Karsticles]

GGs earlier Karst. Goddamn Phoenix team is hard for me.

*grumbles and goes back to playing MGS Rising

GGs. My Phoenix improves every time I play. She's pretty respectable now. I feel like I have a whole second team stored up in her, it's wonderful. I don't know why your goddamn Gamma Crushes always hit me when I XFC into blockstun with her, though. -_-

 

[A Pretty Panda]

I accidentally played Viewtiful Joe in training mode.

Beef what the hell are you doing with Viewtiful Joe?

 

[Professor Beef]

I accidentally played Viewtiful Joe in training mode.

Beef what the hell are you doing with Viewtiful Joe?

What do you want to know? Do you want to level up Frank or what?

 

[A Pretty Panda]

No you have that one crossup that Beardo never blocks. But like you can alter it against people who might actually block it. I've just never seen you do it.

 

[Professor Beef]

No you have that one crossup that Beardo never blocks. But like you can alter it against people who might actually block it. I've just never seen you do it.

If you're talking about air S after a blocked SRK, then it's muscle memory. I know I can alter it, but I always forget.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

No I mean Box Dash S.

 

[Professor Beef]

No I mean Box Dash S.

Oh. I dunno. Sometimes I don't even know if it'll cross-up or not lol.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

Joe can do 2 box dashes in the air, one after the other. So forward then back. You can crossup then come back to the original side or if you start the first box dash late enough you can fake returning to the original side.

Scummy shit, I'd never be able to block it.

 

[Professor Beef]

Joe can do 2 box dashes in the air, one after the other. So forward then back. You can crossup then come back to the original side or if you start the first box dash late enough you can fake returning to the original side.

Scummy shit, I'd never be able to block it.

Damn, that does sound scummy.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

See Dahbomb I actually DID invent something today.

Gaf excl-cl-cl-clusive.

 

[MikeXXIeaf]

Could someone real quick tell me the best control config. when you're using PS3 pad?

 

[Dahbomb]

See Dahbomb I actually DID invent something today.

Gaf excl-cl-cl-clusive.

Make a stream tutorial video about it as proof.

 

[Sixfortyfive]

Could someone real quick tell me the best control config. when you're using PS3 pad?

Default imo. Rearrange shoulder buttons if needed (like if you need a shoulder button to charge Zero's buster or want to mess around with various ways to plink on pad).

 

[A Pretty Panda]

Make a stream tutorial video about it as proof.

Wtf proof do you need it's not hard like at all. It takes basic reading comprehension and the game.

Could someone real quick tell me the best control config. when you're using PS3 pad?

Default

 

[Professor Beef]

Could someone real quick tell me the best control config. when you're using PS3 pad?

Default imo. Rearrange shoulder buttons if needed (like if you need a shoulder button to charge Zero's buster or want to mess around with various ways to plink on pad).

This right here. I use M+H on L1 and X-Factor on L2.

 

[Horseress]

I'm coming back to the mahvels lately, and I realized I don't know how to back wavedash, you can plink it right?

 

[SousedLouse]

This right here. I use M+H on L1 and X-Factor on L2.

Is there any real use for the L+M+H macro, or is M+H good enough for pushblocking and dashing?

 

[onionfrog]

Could someone real quick tell me the best control config. when you're using PS3 pad?

Mine is usually pretty close to default, but I switch launcher to triangle instead of X, and set L2 to A1+A2(THC).

 

[EsotericManiac]

I'm coming back to the mahvels lately, and I realized I don't know how to back wavedash, you can plink it right?

back + dash, then canceled with down-back

I'm pretty sure you can plink it

 

[Horseress]

back + dash, then canceled with down-back

I'm pretty sure you can plink it

How do you plink that? Sorry, I'm used to Street Fighter plinks and I know nothing about plinking in this game

 

[XxSlasherMcGirkxX]

I've put X-Factor mapped to R3, just so I don't get another attack instead of X-Factor just incase.

 

[onionfrog]

I've put X-Factor mapped to R3, just so I don't get another attack instead of X-Factor just incase.

Interesting, I guess I have big enough thumbs that I can just hit all four face buttons at once by slamming my thumb in the middle of them.

I need to learn Doom so that I can run Felicia backed by Plasma Beam.

I'm also having fun with Nova, I like that I don't have to think too much when using him.
So far, Nova/Hawkeye/Sentinel and Nova/Frank/Sentinel have been pretty solid.
I might try Felicia/Nova/Hawkeye. Unblockables with Nova's assist sound like fun.

 

[enzo_gt]

So a colossal amount of spoilers have come out for Iron Man 3 (Spoilers: its going to be incredible) Check the MCU thread if your interested. Of note to this thread:

Spoiler

>>46665139
MARK XLII - X01
PARTICLE RADIATION CANNON ATTACHMENT
Unable to deal with FIREPOWER's fiery attacks, TONY STARK designs the PARTICLE RADIATION CANNON to absorb and channel TAGGERT's heat against him.

PROTON CANNONNNNNNN!!!

Hopefully not that bleeding edge POS.