Indeed.Mashing supers should've never been put into the game in the first place.
Superior. Fucking. Tech.
LMH gives you throw option selects plus LM versions of hypers that change depending on what 2 buttons you use to activate them (e.g. Taskmaster's horizontal arrows).
Oh man, these are good! I didn't know arthur could combo solo off an air throw.
Mashing supers should've never been put into the game in the first place.
And much less risk.
Tell me something about Spencer that makes him not top 5 material. Is it that he does massive damage without using meter? Is it that he gets in for free with frame advantage? Mindless crossups? A standing overhead? Command grabs? High health? One of the best hypers in the game, which leads to full combos on hit? The 1F reversal? The best reset assist in the game?
It's nigh impossible to die to the incoming mix-up if you're willing to burn X-Factor on your character. And you need to pressure Vergil before he touches the ground or he'll Dimension Slash. PR Balrog was still #2 at Winter Brawl, you know.
You can kill him after he touches the ground as well. It's very easy to pressure him not to do Dimension Slash on incoming (which by the way is super unsafe and you need to immediately XF to make it safe thus wasting it) by doing a meaty j.H with Magneto plus assist (which is what Schmidt was doing to shutdown ANY Vergil option on incoming and he was always biting the dust). If you are putting all your marbles in Vergil XFLVL3 and if he gets snapped in before losing any character... you have already lost the game because if you waste XFLVL1 to save Vergil you are at a great disadvantage already.
No one wastes an early X-Factor to save Phoenix, either. Hell, no one wastes XF1 to save any character in this game unless they're a one-character player. It's just not a smart thing to do. That's not a weakness particular to Vergil. All of your top 5 characters can get snapped in and killed. Good incoming mix-ups don't let you just air dash up and out of the way!
I like his voice.
Dante is the most annoying character in the game. Terrible lines, false bravado.
You said you want to know why people put him in the top 5. If he's top 5 material to you, then it should be easy to understand why people put him in the top 5.
'Top 5 Material' does not mean top 5, though. There are plenty of candidates for Top 5, and I just can't see Spencer being better than some of them. I won't deny he's got strong tools, but I'd put him around number 8 on a top ten, personally.
Zero, Viper, Vergil, Magneto, Dante would be top 5, probably in that order though it sometimes changes. Beyond that, it gets trickier for me to tier. I tend to invest heavily on 'theory', so it can get skewed sometimes.
But 3 of my top 5 characters are point characters so the snap back example doesn't work on them and all of them have better escapes than Vergil. You can't snap in Zero because he starts as a point character, which is why I value point strength over anchor/support strength. Anchor/support characters can be killed via Happy Birthdays/hyper punishes or snap backs so the game plan of the point character becomes much more vital to the match.
Yeah I feel the same way although my top 5 usually swaps between Doom and Dante a lot. Characters like Spencer/Wolverine are top 5 material but the main reason I don't place them straight up in top 5 because they lose to a much lower tier character like Haggar or Hulk since their game plan is so one dimensional.
Thing is that you can't just win games with an assist you need top point characters. Not every character can exploit Doom the same way. If Doom was as good as Dante on point he would be top 5 FREE and potentially top 3 for being the ultimate package. Right now he has too many bad match ups to be among top 3. No top 3 character should be ROFL stomped by a character like Hawkeye.
Damn straight.
