You mean getting perfected? Top players get perfected by Zero all the time. ChrisG got perfected by Mihe at Final Round. FChamp, ChrisG and Yipes have been perfected by Flux. Flocker has performed a perfect on Justin. This is not some anomaly, Zero has one of the highest perfect rates in the game.
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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT3| To infinites... and beyond!
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crimsonspider89
Banned
Vergil requires meter to get started and is VERY vulnerable to incoming mix ups.
Zero can get out of incoming mixups better due to better air mobility.
As much as I hate Vergil, Zero is on a whole level of stupidity.
Zero can get out of incoming mixups better due to better air mobility.
As much as I hate Vergil, Zero is on a whole level of stupidity.
Zero doesn't need to get out of mix ups because he's a POINT character. He starts off the match with a Buster charge which demands respect. If he is ever put into a position where he needs to block on incoming then you fucked up somewhere.
Zero doesn't need XF and he doesn't need meter. That right there is the main advantage he has over someone like Vergil, he is the most resource efficient character in the game. Even if you plan to spend all that meter saved, its meter well spent because Sogenmu and his LVL3 are great hypers.
Zero doesn't need XF and he doesn't need meter. That right there is the main advantage he has over someone like Vergil, he is the most resource efficient character in the game. Even if you plan to spend all that meter saved, its meter well spent because Sogenmu and his LVL3 are great hypers.
Karsticles
Member
Zero isn't always a point character. He's very solid second with his dp assist.
I think that's one of the reasons why I both love and hate my rate of progression with Viper. There's nothing quite like reading people with Viper and hassling them into bad situations without going full HAM all the time but at the same time, it sucks when something goes wrong and you are guaranteed to lose her.
I'm still debating internally over what my third team will be between Dante/Vergil/Strider and Dante/Sentinel/Strider. The former is better based on the most dominant metagame team, I get a DHC glitch to carry any of Dante's nonsense into and I get double derp to fall back on (lol), the latter is really fun and I miss optimizing for point Dante a ton lately.
Karsticles
Member
His fingers were in the wrong spot on the keyboard. He meant to type "LLs" each time to taunt you for dying to Zero. One time may have been meant as "LOLs" for how overpowered the character is, though.
Haha.
I really don't know how someone can play Zero at that aptitude and tell others that Vergil's better. It's like my mind is slowly floating out of my skull into the air "Poochie returning to home planet" style.
There was one instance during the set where I blocked a 17 second long block string (I counted!) and extended mixup and I just couldn't believe how many hoops I had to go through just to remain blocking. Then I get opened up because a push block got read as a button. =/
Whenever I got rid of Zero, I got Helm Breaker'd. When I read the Helm Breaker, Swords Up and dash dance under me any time I decided to so much as think of jumping upward for a breather. (Not super jump, jump.) After scrambling to get Vergil out, I'd get Akuma'd after getting a decent confirm only for the final input for whatever super I was doing to become something retarded like a super jump or the wrong super.
I'm. SALTY.
Karsticles
Member
LTP. ;-)
In all seriousness, I wish PS3 and 360 could play together. If only the companies could just hug it out...
Maybe that'll get solved next gen.
Since everyone will be on PS4. Nobody is gonna buy the Xbox One with all that DRM
Karsticles
Member
Well, I'm still wary that PS4 is on the same boat. Sony gave some shady answers to those questions. Even so, I think PS4 will be the system of choice for fighting games due to better specs, free online, and no Kinect required (tournaments will not deal with that crap).
If Sony ends up doing it too then I'll jump ship and go back to Nintendo.
I'll have to get a Wii U at some point for Smash Bros anyway.
but then, you wont be able to play fighting games
I'm probably going to be online in about 30 minutes or so, but you always ignore my invites. D:
Karsticles
Member
Smash Bros > Marvel if they do it right.
Besides, it's not like there's going to be a Marvel 4 on the PS4 to crave.
Hmm... I wonder... 10 years is a long time for some magic to happen.
Fixed and Hell Yes... But don't forget, its Nintendo.
Karsticles
Member
It's Sakurai + Namco this time.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I hope they put my favorite Tekken character in the next smash bros.
Karsticles
Member
I'm okay with one of them going in there. It makes more sense than Snake.
Professor Beef
Banned
I still don't trust Sakurai, even if Harada is there to potentially smack some sense into him. We'll see, though.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
But Sakurai made the original and Melee and those are still beloved by fans. Maybe he can learn from his mistakes.
Professor Beef
Banned
I'll believe it when I play it.
Sakurai considers Melee's direction a mistake.
If Kid Icarus is anything to go by, I'm ready for Smash 4. Hopefully it'll be so good I won't have to buy a next gen console.
Professor Beef
Banned
Karsticles
Member
Don't blame the game for you not being able to learn a new control method....you're ready for abysmal controls? Well, ok then.
We always seem to just barely miss each other. You on now?
He considers Melee the mistake, and Brawl learning from his mistakes.
crimsonspider89
Banned
He did but I think he realizes people enjoyed Melee more than Brawl and maybe has changed his viewpoint.
Professor Beef
Banned
He should make more mistakes.
Karsticles
Member
Your avatar is so fitting, because you always appear in threads out of nowhere to make comments about Smash Bros and then vanish again.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I don't get why there's a community thread for the next smash game.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
I think it's why I'm enjoying him as well. I'm a Chris player and I always have to be very aware of everything going on which is why I enjoy him.
Psychic is basically how I've been playing against Wolverine but damn that's just shitty. One wrong guess and Dante is likely dead. It is funny as hell when I predict a berserker slash and teleport and the guy will cross himself up.
Out of those teams I think I'm definitely gonna check out a Dante/Iron Man dynamic. I really liked Storm too, and she's not a very used character so I think that will be in my favor.
I ended up trying out that team and really liked it so I'm definitely gonna experiment more with that one. Thanks.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
Kid Icarus is the best game Nintendo made since the SNES.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
Yeah I'm trying all sorts of Dante combinations.Mango's playing Spy May Stride? Welcome to the good life.
I can do rapid seismos like nothing in sf4 but in marvel I'm having a ton of trouble....quite strange. People always said they were way easier in this.
Now that I'm a lot more comfortable with Dante I need to start figuring out some more advanced combos
Good games, AzureJ.
I'm not sure what happened to our connection. Regardless, it was fun! I don't get a lot of practice against Strider. Hell, it's not often that I get to play against a team without Zero, Vergil, or Doom on it. Let me know if you're up for any games in the future.
I'm not sure what happened to our connection. Regardless, it was fun! I don't get a lot of practice against Strider. Hell, it's not often that I get to play against a team without Zero, Vergil, or Doom on it. Let me know if you're up for any games in the future.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Going on now if anybody wants to play.
biosnake20
Member
Dante/Morrigan tech and combos. This should be ChrisG's secondary team.
Hm, most of what was in that video was a Morrigan combo and a Dante combo connected via a TAC, without a ton of real synergy between the two. You could have substituted Morrigan and Dante for other characters and it wouldn't have made a big difference.
The only really unique thing is the THC where Million Dollars keeps them pinned for Soul Stealing combos... I would have expected him to show Silhouette Blade DHC into DT for a free mix-up and a free invincibility super into a full combo for Dante. Even the Jam Session into Soul Steal Soul Fist in the corner is something that Chris G can currently do with Vergil.
"God's Beard!"
Member
GGs TWILT! I'm definitely getting more and more comfortable with my new team :3
Hawkeye vs 3 teleporters is so painful, I think I only killed two of your characters with point Hawkeye once in 35 games. You and your funky Dante shenanigans. If I had to critique anything though, you never mix me up after the acid rain! You just run up!
I woulda got bopped so bad if I was using anchor Strider instead of Magneto, I'm glad I made the switch. Much closer set.
Hawkeye vs 3 teleporters is so painful, I think I only killed two of your characters with point Hawkeye once in 35 games. You and your funky Dante shenanigans. If I had to critique anything though, you never mix me up after the acid rain! You just run up!
I woulda got bopped so bad if I was using anchor Strider instead of Magneto, I'm glad I made the switch. Much closer set.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";60337645]GGs TWILT! I'm definitely getting more and more comfortable with my new team :3
Hawkeye vs 3 teleporters is so painful, I think I only killed two of your characters with point Hawkeye once in 35 games. You and your funky Dante shenanigans. If I had to critique anything though, you never mix me up after the acid rain! You just run up!
I woulda got bopped so bad if I was using anchor Strider instead of Magneto, I'm glad I made the switch. Much closer set.[/QUOTE]
GGs!
Yeah, I just like trying to dash under, and attempt to cross up. That and I get Twister instead of Acid Rain like half the time online anyway. I'll try and do rain more next time.
Your Magneto is quite good as usual and I had to adapt to your Hawkeye's arrows. I think you could use work on optimizing Vergil's combos though.
Hawkeye vs 3 teleporters is so painful, I think I only killed two of your characters with point Hawkeye once in 35 games. You and your funky Dante shenanigans. If I had to critique anything though, you never mix me up after the acid rain! You just run up!
I woulda got bopped so bad if I was using anchor Strider instead of Magneto, I'm glad I made the switch. Much closer set.[/QUOTE]
GGs!
Yeah, I just like trying to dash under, and attempt to cross up. That and I get Twister instead of Acid Rain like half the time online anyway. I'll try and do rain more next time.
Your Magneto is quite good as usual and I had to adapt to your Hawkeye's arrows. I think you could use work on optimizing Vergil's combos though.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Man I don't know shit with Vergil, 90% of my training time now is Hawkeye and Magneto. I'm probably the only person in the world you want to snap Vergil out to anchor with. I don't know what I'm doing when I don't have EMD with him lol
Definitely a priority to work on.
Definitely a priority to work on.
Haggar
Karsticles
Member
You play Marvel.