Bookmarked for reference, and that SRK link isn't updated for Ultimate.
I updated it for Ultimate as well. If there is some discrepancy, my numbers are more accurate.
10 normal and 15 special.
This one more than even Dante's makes me so sad. Capcom really went out of their way to ensure Strider had shitty damage more than anyone else. If they want him to do low damage, then 10/10 would have been completely fine.
Yeah, Trish has really good damage scaling but doesn't do that much damage because she does like 15 hits per combo tops compared to someone like Doom who does twice that per combo and has higher base damage.
10/15. In addition to nerfing it to 5/5, they also nerfed his biggest combo extender in the up front damage (Volcano 110k > 100k, Beehive 15k x 8 > 10k x 8).
Poor Nemesis. One hit does a good amount of damage, but a combo scales so hard, its hard to break 750k with an OTG assist. He's worthless as a DHC, I've seen his rocket hyper fail to put away a Wesker on his magic pixel.
There is something very wrong with Nemesis' hypers because his scaling is not as bad as it suggests in games. Probably a balancing oversight.
It's because they don't have a lot of hits like most supers. They have a lot of 'upfront' damage (80k x 4 for the rocket one) but at 30% scaling it ends up only doing 24k per rocket and the slam, which ends up at 96k max.
He has an 8 frame normal because he has good range on his normals, he is safe as fuck and he has a ton of moves that are supremely plus on block. Even with an 8 frame normal he can frame trap people.
Our daily talk topics should be announced in the FGW thread.-1 and not special cancelable is a momentum loss. That's all the punishment that is needed. Everyone pushblocks Hulk's s.H, so it doesn't matter.
If ending a blockstring at -1 is the character's best option, then I plan on changing that character to have better blockstring enders.
You're thinking about it backwards. The options are:
Who takes 3 attacks to pushblock? I pushblock the L often, and always pushblock the second attack unless I'm mind fucked. More likely this plays out like this:
It's too bad that Dante player don't know how to throw, or dash back after blocking and then Stinger to punish the whiffed launcher. Let's make balance decisions around smart play, not the dumbest fucking thing you can think of someone doing.
All of your examples are of people playing like scrubs, though...
Then the announcer should work with Enzo.
I am talking about a situation where Wolverine does not have the meter to cancel. Most Wolverine's only hit confirm with cr.Ls but sometimes you get committed up to st.H because you thought you got the hit and then you may end up spending a bar that you may not want to... a -1 launcher would rectify this. Hey man as a Wolverine player I would love to have a -1 launcher... dash under cross up launcher all day long.
The funny thing is that a -1 launcher would not even be punishable by the time you recover from advance guard. The only reason Iron Man's launcher would be punishable after an AG is that it's recovery is already HUMONGOUS. So this makes it even scrubbier.
So he push blocks before a launcher... now what? A launcher that is -1 on block no way in hell Dante is punishing that. There is no way in hell you can throw a Sentinel launcher at -1 block, the push back is too much on it to allow for it.
Hey man tell that GCYoshi who likes to use Sentinel launcher all day long.
And I am talking about good Wolverine players, whom prefer to stay in your face and c.L until their assists refresh. This is a non-issue.
Wrong.
The only time you don't pushblock in this game is when your opponent does something unsafe like Charging Star. Anything else is a mistake against an intelligent opponent. You never want to "see" the whole blockstring if your opponent is good at the game, because it just results in more pressure and chip damage for you. Never.
Not everything needs to be pushblocked. Moves like Bionic Lancer and Charging Star are still unsafe. I imagine we'll keep Doom's j.S unsafe after he has entered flight, too.
Or dash back and punish the recovery on the launcher. Same shit, still easy.
Because it has hyper armor - Sentinel's launcher would clearly be a unique case here.
It needs to be better. And I'm talking about the Dante player, not the Sentinel player.
I plan on adding more blockstun to them. If you lower their recovery, then they'll be harder to punish. Take the Iron Man launcher for example, which has 30 recovery and is -11. So to make that -1 through recovery you need to reduce the recover to 20 frames. But now, in my pushblock example, Iron Man is vulnerable for 14 frames, which is the same as Stinger's startup. So Dante would not be able to punish it.
Very good players have anti push block strats and approaches so if you start pushblocking everything they know and will use their tactic on the first block. Against a good Vergil I don't push block early in fact it is recommended that you don't especially during Round Trip or Spiral Swords, it just allows him to mix you up even easier. Saving that pushblock for the standard st.H assist call into cross up mix up is the best scenario. Yea this is not all the time and most of the time you want to push block as much as you can but it's not as white and black as push block everything especially now that some people are starting to discover guard break shit.
If you played a character whose best normal was his/her launcher, you would understand.
I have played Ghost Rider and even I don't want his launcher to be -1. The character is bad but it doesn't excuse giving him derpy shit to overcome his short comings. Just like I wouldn't give Iron Man better recovery on his launcher because the better launcher he has the less likely people are pushed to use optimized hit confirms. Risk/reward should be apparent, something that this game lacks. You should have to THINK before you press that button. Oh and I play Vergil as well who's second best normal is his launcher, so I get to have a disjointed normal that is -1 on Vergil... Neat. That would make his launcher the best normal for him on paper... and it's cancellable to boot!If you played a character whose best normal was his/her launcher, you would understand.
Who cares if I'm the only one that wants it? Not all good ideas are popular.
After finding out that Storm's launcher is -1 on block, I've just thought "why isn't that the case for more great launchers like that one?" Like I said, they could be -3 or something, but I think they should be mostly safe.
My biggest gripe with it is that there is still discrepancies between each launcher. Sure, they're all -1, but some will have more recovery than others so some are more susceptible to pushblocking than others and it's still super dangerous to use as an anti-air meaning it's still not a great 'poking tool', as for some characters, it's their only good anti-air. Plus, the whole pushblocking thing works for only a handful of characters. Sure, Dante can punish characters with a Stinger, but what about characters without something like Stinger? The list that can't punish is longer than the list that can, causing a further discrepancy in characters. That's not getting into the fact you'd be able to frametrap with your launcher into the world's easiest hitconfirm with pretty much no risk in most cases, and that's kinda dumb imo. I know for a fact that I'd be using it a shit ton with Dante.
This is basically what I have been trying to say. For a majority of the cast this just leads to dumber play. Not the most optimized play but still effective enough where fraudulent players can get by on it. I WANT people to be punished for improperly confirming an Iron Man combo into a st.S.
Assisted and/or X-Factored, usually making them safe. Plus, most of the launchers used as anti-airs are the safer ones like Storm, Doom and Akuma so even if they are chicken-blocked, they're still pretty hard to punish.
I'm talking about anti-airing things like Haggar jumping in while holding up-back, not air dashers.
You can't anti air him with cr.M? Or do you want to beat out his pipe? Does Dorm's launcher beat out pipe?
I'm not thinking about Dormammu with this idea. I'm thinking about things like Iron Man's launcher.
Trish's launcher is pretty godlike. -4 on block, 4 active frames, 23 recovery frames. Helps that it's a Sparda normal, so it reaches forever.
I used to be like this, and then I started YOLO'ing it up and anti-airing him. My performance vs Haggar improved dramatically.
I fucking love it but I would wait for character changes before we get to them. And I was thinking about Skrull, Thor and She Hulk. I do think it might be too broke though.