Regarding assists. Missile can stay. It's fair and balanced. Who ever said that missile should be a regular move. No. Not as it is now. Missile is the lowest projectile durability in the game IIRC. Plus he has Maya H for a self OTG. Just give him that during Trial mode.
Press the Witness is an okay assist. It's a decent combo extender for certain teams.
Paper Work is garbage. I feel this was only an assist with the invincibility in mind. He to vulnerable during it and isn't that great.
Maya can't be an assist. Unless you guys want an invincible assist that OTG's. That would destroy Lariat and Gustav flamme.
Also whoever said make Hold it/Objection an assist. Brilliant. An extra way to go into TB (while also feeling like a defensive comeback attack) is always welcome. Also if the dizzyness effect also stacked like Dorm's assist that would truly bring an interesting element to the game. Plus this would force more interesting Wright combo's. Two huge gains but alone a crappy on hit assist. Sounds fair.
I always thought an interesting potential buff to Turnabout that I read awhile back is to be able to go with even just 1 good evidence if you land an Objection (map it to f.S?) but the amount of time you're in Turnabout depends on how many good evidence you have.
I'm not a fan of this idea. Just don't like it. It's a thoughtful idea though. This would make turnabout less special. Getting it and using it several times in a match. It makes the comeback/hurdle less rewarding IMO.
Good suggestions Frantic, I added a few to my own list. I'm still not on board with buffing Turnabout, though.
He only needs one buff. The C.H. With that no need to rebalance TB time or any other TB moves. As he is now. He needs a hell of a lot of other buffs in TB mode to make him a super character.
We have to be careful about buffing Wright's ability to get into Turnabout and his abilities in Turnabout. That's a recipe for disaster. When Wright gets Turnabout, he really tends to win matches.
So does lvl5 Frank and DP. He should tend to win matches in that situation. Plus Frank and DP can get their super forms relevantly easy unscathed. Most times Wright gets TB he usually has substantial damage done to him to get to that point. Plus Frank and DP have no timer.
Yipes lost to him, and on commentary Viscant and Magus (lol) both said that if Wright gets Turnabout, you need to burn X-Factor or whatever else you have to kill him. I totally agree with that sentiment, and I know that when SlasherMcGirk gets Turnabout mode, I will blow every resource I have to kill Wright, because he is just that dangerous.
Yea I would want to take him down too. Most teams are built around him so if he's powered up and the team is built to cater to that, he needs to be destroyed.
Question Karst. One of Wright best tools is his chip in X-Factor during TB. If your balance change decreases damage but increases chip this would be a powerful buff to his character. Not broken but powerful indeed. I guess that wasn't really a question.
I think the best approach to Wright is making Turnabout a more reasonable goal, and we've done that with changes to the M-Maya?! L shield and his evidence collection, along with the assist choices I gave him for players who want to bring him in easily (collect 3 evidence by assist, spent 1 bar to TAC to Wright - easy Turnabout). Anything more than that is going to get terrifying. We also have to keep in mind that we're nerfing most of the top tiers in the game, and those are the characters to typically have such good pressure that Wright can't get anything done.
Whoa thats to good. Are you saying he can grab evidence during an assist while not on point. That would be like three or four Dark Harmonizers to have a full set. No way. This discourages people even playing Investagation or Trial mode at all. That's no good. Capcom would never do that.
Most top tiers do good against Wright because of there tools not because of their buffs. Wesker, Vergil and Skrull ect will always dominate Wright. It's part of their move sets.
No one is going to respect PW as long as TA is on a limited timer. Honestly speaking landing his LVL3 should completely refresh his timer.
You are right Dahbomb. I think the timer is a big reason people don't respect him. What's he supposed to do against Trish and Morrigan. They can stay in the air all day. A timer. Pssh character invalidated.
I do think landing the AA hyper most of time is not needed. Most DHCs will do more damage and you get to keep a bar of meter. The only time I use AA is for a full screen punish or a X-Factor OHKO. It's not even that great to use to counter other hypers because Order in the Court has longer invincibility frames.
I got Wright down to 10:
Phoenix Wright:
*Bad evidence removed from the game.
*M-Maya?! L appears closer to Wright than before, startup is reduced to 15 frames, and the shield now benefits from damage scaling.
*Ace Attorney startup reduced to 5 frames.
*Stance Change reduced to 10 frames (from 20).
*M-Maya?! M and H startup reduced to 20 frames.
*Get em Missile! added as a normal move; charge back for 30 frames, then forward and M; startup is 15 frames, 10 recovery.
*Present Evidence and Paperwork air OK.
*Slip-Up startup reduced to 19 frames.
*Dash distance increased by 20%, total dash time unchanged.
*Hitboxes on normals improved slightly.
Assists: Get em Missile!, Questioning (becomes Objection when appropriate), Gather/Present Evidence (continues to gather through the L+S, M+S, and H+S inputs until all evidence is gathered; uses L+S if in Trial mode; if all slots are filled and he is called while in Investigation mode, throws away his L+S item).
Besides getting rid of bad evidence and gathering evidence during an assist. I support all of these changes. I still would trade them all for C.H. hitting low though. It's that important. Other Wright players agree. Add it to the list Karst.
Yo Slasher, if you read this, I want a ft10 too. I haven't had a Wright mirror in awhile.
Even though I hate Wright ditto's, anytime pal.
Does it matter what system I play on? PS3, there is your're answer.
Yo is this a challange? I don't consider myself a major tourney player or anything but I feel I can play my team pretty damn well. (except for my fraudulent Wesker) I'm not the type of person to say I'm gonna crush ya or cry if I get bodied, but if you wanna play a good Wright, I will play you. You wanna get destroyed by a Wright play Poltergustt. I'll get the recorder ready. (drama aside I love playing new people)
I think he already follows them will enough with his quotes and animations.
Da Fauck. You know what fuck all the balance changes. Wright needs a buff to the win quotes. They are generic as all hell with little to know no partner combo quotes. AND he is a NEW character. I want my sarcastic, ironic jokes and witty inner monologue Wright and not this "Miss Walter your witness, Wow I guess you can beat the devil and In battle in not a question of guilty or not guilty" I would forgive it all if there was one step ladder joke but no.
Investigation Mode will still suck even with no bad evidence, you know. It just makes it faster for one to get out of it. There's no way to buff Investigation Mode to make it worthwhile to remain in it unless you can guarantee getting good evidence each time you pick one up, even with the Maya buffs.
