Karsticles
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IIRC, he had the Unibeam coming up behind him for safety as well.
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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT4| Nothing Stops This Patch!
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naw, he didn't. at the range he armed at if danke had called unibeam tony would've gotten divekicked and then wolv could do berserker slash h over there in time to hit spencer.
mike tried to dash over and got swiss cheese loll
Karsticles
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Ah, my error.
The Mango Sentinel
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Fought someone that was using Cap/Iron Man/Strider. That is some annoying shit.
The theoretical second best Cap team followed by Cap/Vergil/Strider.
Karsticles
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Charging Star + Plasma Beam doesnt combo.
The Mango Sentinel
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What makes Cap/Vergil strong? Or is it just because Vergil is Vergil?
Rapid Slash is decent for mixups/zoning, get kill combos off of Captain America yolo star due to Vergil's DHC, etc.
Karsticles
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Rapid Slash apparently makes Charging Star safe on block and leads to combos on hit.
Similar concept as Unibeam... it keeps him safe while doing Charging Star and he can combo off of it. Also good for roll mix ups or if you want to play a keep away game. Plus the Vergil DHC for the guaranteed kill (random Charging Star into HCS into SS for full combo).
Yep, pretty much nailed it. Played a guy at my local who uses cap/Verg/Spencer and omfg does rapid slash keep cap safe.
Vergil/Drones too strong tho!!!
I need to make my Dante/Drones just as powerful tho since Sent/Dante is better than Sent/Vergil. Vergil/Sent is better than Dante/Sent imo tho.
I'd use Zero/Dante/Sent in that order but I like sentinel second for dat escape!
When I played him I wasn't using drones at the time. Was using my Zero/Akuma/Vergil team. Made the switch to drones not too long ago and I'm loving it so far. Zero/Vergil with drones is so damn fun and good!
Cap/Missile is better than Cap/Beam. When I play that team I go for missiles.
I don't like the idea of Missiles for Cap. Def not over something like unibeam or rapid slash or daggers, etc etc.
And yeah, drones is gdlk. And CC Hard Drive is gdlk. Was just playing someone today, locking me down with XF3 Vergil Swords into Round Trip into Teleport, just CC'd the teleport xx Hard Drive XFC jL sLMS done. People don't respect it.
It bugs me that you can't Crossover Counter during hitstop, though. Some situations are easy to CC out of, but some are just a pain in the ass, like Zero mauling you with multi hit normals.
And yeah, drones is gdlk. And CC Hard Drive is gdlk. Was just playing someone today, locking me down with XF3 Vergil Swords into Round Trip into Teleport, just CC'd the teleport xx Hard Drive XFC jL sLMS done. People don't respect it.
It bugs me that you can't Crossover Counter during hitstop, though. Some situations are easy to CC out of, but some are just a pain in the ass, like Zero mauling you with multi hit normals.
The Mango Sentinel
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The only thing I like about Cap/missiles is double hyper charging star. Otherwise I'll take Unibeam all day every day.
omg i never realized how crazy killer illumination was. insane range and does 392k mashed out and modok can self otg and combo afterwards. this wouldn't bother me if he didn't almost do as much damage as haggars level 3 and haggar can't self otg after. wish haggars level 3 was a level 1 hyper. 
omg i never realized how crazy killer illumination was. insane range and does 392k mashed out and modok can self otg and combo afterwards. this wouldn't bother me if he didn't almost do as much damage as haggars level 3 and haggar can't self otg after. wish haggars level 3 was a level 1 hyper.
Modok deserves that though imo. And no way in hell i'd want Haggars level 3 to be level 1 unless that shit was shortened in length time and didn't do as much damage obviously. Then yeah make it a level 1 lol.
yeah it wouldn't be 450k but i think 250-300k would be fair and the animation could just be the spinning pile driver. lets stop any further discussions since nobody wants to read anymore theory patch talk.
The Mango Sentinel
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Haha. End discussions now to avoid depression.
Also, Killer Illumination can be jumped out of. Or were you sitting there spinning around like a fucking idiot? Fuck Haggar.
I fought someone earlier using your exact team and they weren't nearly as good with Haggar and I still got wrecked. At least my modok was putting in work.
somebody stealing my team? what was his name? i must hunt him down now.
omg i never realized how crazy killer illumination was. insane range and does 392k mashed out and modok can self otg and combo afterwards. this wouldn't bother me if he didn't almost do as much damage as haggars level 3 and haggar can't self otg after. wish haggars level 3 was a level 1 hyper.
The difference is, Haggar's L3 is 0Frame post flash, and KI is 1Frame post flash. You can jump out of KI or Hyper on reaction, so there's a lot fewer situations in which it's a sure thing.
But yes, it does have full startup invul etc, and if it grabs you you're going to die. I don't know about anyone else, but I actually find it very hard to fully mash it out; but that doesn't really matter, because a self OTG into full modok combo is gonna kill you even if you don't mash it at all, etc(which is something you should consider not doing if you'll kill with the followup combo before the next hyper, so you get the most meter build out of it, etc. It's the little things.)
But, then again... the fact that it's a L1 means you can DHC out of it, unlike Haggar L3, so you can just throw it out on wake-up to keep them cautious and DHC into a safe hyper. It's definitely pretty nifty. Makes up for his other hypers being junk in the neutral.
And you play Modok, Mango? On XBL? We should throw down some time, compare science notes.
The Mango Sentinel
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Haha. It was on ps3. I'll have to look him up later.
Flying High
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So, guys, even thought UMVC3 Online is bad, there are still legit players on it, so I made a video showing off some of the players that have interesting teams and show off their cool combos and everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPXt1iqhi7M
Note: This took hours and hours going through player lobbies and finding players that are good and not fighting against scrubs or lagging players and shit, my god you cannot think how many players I find and see OMG awesome and its the laggiest match I will ever seen till the next match happens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPXt1iqhi7M
Note: This took hours and hours going through player lobbies and finding players that are good and not fighting against scrubs or lagging players and shit, my god you cannot think how many players I find and see OMG awesome and its the laggiest match I will ever seen till the next match happens
The Mango Sentinel
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I always like seeing people with unique teams.
I was playing some casuals with a group the other day and this guy was steamrolling me with Thor/Strange/Doom. I've never been command grabbed so many times.
The Mango Sentinel
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Well it definitely showed. Dude had some really sick shit.
I forgot how long you just float if you dhc out of Mighty Tornado. Are there any other supers that leave you in a state like that?
i can't stand seeing that. rockets floaty dhc also annoys me.
My friend who mains Thor knows how much that pisses me off and loves fucking with me and doing that.
lol.
Modok's Hyper Psionic Blaster does that as well, if you DHC before the last hit. Makes for great SJ -> L Blaster xx HPB xx XF or DHC confirms, and even combos into HSF if you do it on the ground and it hits them while they're at jump height or so; if it's a happy birthday, I do HPB xx HSF xx Million Dollars and XFC after he shoots a bullet, just to be safe, though.
Definitely all for people picking out videos of favorite players they're seen, online OR offline, etc, but I wouldn't call the players in that video high level. :[ A lot of random poor button choices from their opponents just because they're are playing vergil/wesker, and a lot of sloppy neutral and unoptimal combos. But it's always good to see new faces try out some new stuff.
Definitely all for people picking out videos of favorite players they're seen, online OR offline, etc, but I wouldn't call the players in that video high level. :[ A lot of random poor button choices from their opponents just because they're are playing vergil/wesker, and a lot of sloppy neutral and unoptimal combos. But it's always good to see new faces try out some new stuff.
The Mango Sentinel
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What is your Modok team? Modok/Sentinel/Dante? I mess around a lot with Modok but have only found one team that I feel comfortable with. Modok/Dante/Strider.
Flying High
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Here is another video with some more online players, some of them with even more unique teams I do say man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4a_7T8HAFI
Also I did found a player name TA Wero, with himself using Viewiful Joe/Rocket Raccoon/Morrigan, very good player, and I also found out he is going to Curleh Mustache South and he is from the Mexico(So he is on team Mexico)
I have him playing a BUNCH of matches against two Cosmic Lord, going to upload that soon, but the question is should I upload the matches that he got Zero'd out at all?
Yeah, Modok/Sent/Dante. I think it has a lot of really great synergy, but it's main problem is just not having any S Tier characters, IMO. It does a lot of things well but doesn't have the broken level of good. I really need to bite the bullet and just learn doom/vergil or something, sigh.
Woah, I disappear from the GAF Marvel crew for a bit and ProzacStylings joins our roster? Cool shit, your videos were some of the bigger influences on how my Dante combo optimization developed.
Awesome. :] Always good to know it made a difference for something, contributing to the marvel masses is it's own reward. Sorry I never got around to High Impact Dante, lol. At least, not yet.
The Mango Sentinel
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I really enjoy watching stuff like this since I play a bunch of goofy ass teams. It always gives me some more ideas for other teams.
Ehh....sometimes you just have to. I always play the teams I love, but I have that backup/cheap team for when I absolutely need to get shit done. Zero/Vergil/Dante and Zero/Vergil/Strider were the teams I learned. You just can't go wrong with Zero and Vergil. Two borderline broken characters that take minimal effort to win with.
yeah ggs and i noticed some of those drops.
Me? Uh... sure, why the hell not. Haven't really been around much, and didn't even know Karst suggested me, haha.
Just gotta PM you the answers before the end of the week, yeah?
Yeah. FWIW, I'm that dude TranscendentAzure on Youtube that was making stuff for a bit. It was the High Impact Dante teaser that made me explore the idea of how much damage he could get going and your XF3 video coupled with some stuff from GAFbros that made me look into the properties of different things in that mode.
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JohnPauliuk
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Just want to thank Piccoro for some good matches today. I hope to play you again soon.
Yup! Which would be in about two days haha
It kind of slipped my mind earlier (been busy with school all week). Hope that's enough time!
Or really disappointing. One of the two.
There's one comment in there I had to make. It was too tempting not to.
The Mango Sentinel
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He's gigantic so he's an easy target. He has low health. It can be kind of difficult to open people up.
Doom is great for him (much like he is for everyone) with any assist.
Dante is good
Ammy is good
Iron Man is good
Rocket Raccoon is good.
Strange is good
There's definitely more, but those are my favorite ones
Dante is def the best "for Sentinel", specifically. THC confirms off of spit, lethal or near lethal damage to assists just from raw THC XF, dirty flight mixups on incoming, flyover mixups in neutral, confirms off of sM xx fly, cM xx fly, lockdown strings, etc.
Doom's a better character than Dante all around, though, naturally. And Anchor Doom is a lot easier to learn than Anchor Dante.
Sentinel's biggest problems are,
1) Huge hurtbox. Makes is easy to hit him and easy to throw him.
2) Limited mixups. Only true solo mixups are throw/low and fuzzyguard overhead/low; fuzzies work on very few characters or only in XF, and his low is techhnically reactable if your opponent is very good.
3) Limited combos off throws. Requires meter for actual combos, midscreen ground throw combos are execution-intensive, high air throw combos non existent, etc.
In a word, he doesn't have any good nonsense to put the opponent through, and it's harder for him to escape their nonsense. If he didn't have his assist and Hard Drive, he'd be low tier. But he does, so he lives to stomp again in mid tier, etc.
Doom's a better character than Dante all around, though, naturally. And Anchor Doom is a lot easier to learn than Anchor Dante.
Sentinel's biggest problems are,
1) Huge hurtbox. Makes is easy to hit him and easy to throw him.
2) Limited mixups. Only true solo mixups are throw/low and fuzzyguard overhead/low; fuzzies work on very few characters or only in XF, and his low is techhnically reactable if your opponent is very good.
3) Limited combos off throws. Requires meter for actual combos, midscreen ground throw combos are execution-intensive, high air throw combos non existent, etc.
In a word, he doesn't have any good nonsense to put the opponent through, and it's harder for him to escape their nonsense. If he didn't have his assist and Hard Drive, he'd be low tier. But he does, so he lives to stomp again in mid tier, etc.