direct_quote
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Dormamu.. with hidden missiles and rapid slash.
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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT4| Nothing Stops This Patch!
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Start Vergil and DHC Dorm in later. Vergil has pretty good opening gambit options while it's pretty universally agreed that Dorm's are booty.
Karsticles
Member
Dormammu gets slaughtered by almost everything in this game on point. You need to start Doom or Vergil. I don't think the team will play great, just because none of your characters are great at the start.
Both Doom and Vergil are serviceable on point.
I would start with Vergil though. The main problem is playing Vergil without meter on point or having to save it for Dorm.
If you could be in a position where you can get Dorm in properly then this team would be highly functional (I would even say that it would be at least near top tier) but that chance is pretty low. What is going to happen is that you are either going to steamroll with Vergil and not have Dorm be much of a factor or have Vergil die early, get Dorm mixed up and not be a factor that way.
Vergil is only going to DHC into Stalking Flare if it's a kill combo or if Vergil is about to die. When it comes to kill combos Vergil can probably use 2 bars to kill himself rather than change up order/give up meaty incoming for the DHC Stalking Flare.
I would start with Vergil though. The main problem is playing Vergil without meter on point or having to save it for Dorm.
If you could be in a position where you can get Dorm in properly then this team would be highly functional (I would even say that it would be at least near top tier) but that chance is pretty low. What is going to happen is that you are either going to steamroll with Vergil and not have Dorm be much of a factor or have Vergil die early, get Dorm mixed up and not be a factor that way.
Vergil is only going to DHC into Stalking Flare if it's a kill combo or if Vergil is about to die. When it comes to kill combos Vergil can probably use 2 bars to kill himself rather than change up order/give up meaty incoming for the DHC Stalking Flare.
direct_quote
Member
Well I guess it's Vergil on point then.. Though I don't like Vergil without an easy OTG assist if he's on point, because I'll uses missiles to get in (or swords). Dark Hole kind of works with high time but the timing is wacky in combos longer than [helmet breaker ->high time -> darkhole extension + etc] Dorm can be fun when you get things started but when I was facing Wolvie or any good point character I usually got bopped...
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
That sucks. Time must have run out the exact moment you hit him but before the animation began.
Karsticles
Member
You can do this with Vergil +Dark Hole:
Helm Breaker to end the combo, Spiral Swords +DarkHole, df. H
That starts the loops just fine.
I've had that happen before. It sucks. I've also been saved by it at least once, and those times are great!
But it also kinda reminds me of the Vergils who will crown you, and start teleporting like idiots, you punish and try to go into level 3 to bypass the crowns... but you input it just a frame late and get bopped. It always seems to happen to me. :/
Karsticles
Member
What time?
18:04.
TheMixta43
Neo Member
Doom dashed forward and crossed Vergil up with st.H into launch.
Karsticles
Member
TheMixta43
Neo Member
Yeah it does look strange, I think he might have done helm breaker and got beat by the H on incoming which makes it look really fast.
Flying High
Member
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But before hand, PLEASE Read the Rules and stuff on how we are going to run this tournament, so you know how I am going to be running it at all, and any other info you may need to know should be at this link here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MvC3/comments/2h39we/the_umvc3_reddit_tournamentxbox_360_only_is_back/
If you have ANY questions, feel free to message me here or on Reddit so I can answer your questions.
Also there SHOULD be a stream for the tournament, but at the moment, it is up in the air if he is able to stream it or not, I will let you know on the day of the tournament if he will be able to stream at all!
If you want to sign up, please do so here: http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/z5m5rmUy1t
But before hand, PLEASE Read the Rules and stuff on how we are going to run this tournament, so you know how I am going to be running it at all, and any other info you may need to know should be at this link here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MvC3/comments/2h39we/the_umvc3_reddit_tournamentxbox_360_only_is_back/
If you have ANY questions, feel free to message me here or on Reddit so I can answer your questions.
Also there SHOULD be a stream for the tournament, but at the moment, it is up in the air if he is able to stream it or not, I will let you know on the day of the tournament if he will be able to stream at all!
Ahh- yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Also, I put it in the fgcw thread, but I made a tutorial vid for that new marlinpie doom incoming mix-up. Comments/critique more than welcome!
edit: cross-post from FGCW
Made a new Doom combo vid. XF3 time-efficient combos ^_^
One thing worth testing is pushing buttons/specials as the incoming character. When I was testing it, some buttons moved the hurtbox enough for the subsequent Foot Dive to whiff. I couldn't figure out how to combo off the hit with Doom, so it was essentially a free escape, so it's worth looking into, I think.
As if he needed to kill quicker in xfactor haha
Was testing with a friend, you might be right, haha. It's hard to tell if my timing isn't correct or you can straight up beat the mix-up by mashing certain buttons. Need to test more!
I have a feeling it's a legit escape, just because the hurt/hitboxes in this game are preeetty dumb. Not to mention that sometimes getting hit is a better escape than blocking. I hate when people get hit by my setups, sometimes, because I already commit to a second mixup and said mixup doesn't combo from the first part. >_>
Anyways, looking forward to the results of your testing. Since I'm not much of a Doom player, my own attempts at testing it feel lackluster, heh.
JohnPauliuk
Neo Member
Here is a link to my new Solo Ryu combo. Yes I start with 2 bars. Mainly because I sort of did this in response to ChrisG's new Ryu video. Sadly I don't have the damage to kill Thor but on the plus side I do over 1 mil damage and from mid screen 
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=baSzLQJFQyo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=baSzLQJFQyo
Flying High
Member
If anyone is interested I went into the lab a bit, to check some stuff, and I found some interesting stuff on haggar's incoming mixup game, and I think I might of found some new tech with the character maybe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxEn-ztBKJ8&feature=youtu.be
Karsticles
Member
I still check the thread. I watch the videos folks post and such. But I am not actively playing it these days, so my conversational material is zilch.
Zero has won 3 majors in a row. I think it's time for GAF to collectively come to the conclusion that Zero is the best character in the game.
Also this punish was godlike:
http://gfycat.com/ImprobableZanyHogget
Also this punish was godlike:
http://gfycat.com/ImprobableZanyHogget
Dyni Crippler
Member
Same here. I'm playing other stuff and I kinda got tired of the online's community, so I'm taking a break from Marvel (except when friends come over). I still check the thread daily for new posts, though.
direct_quote
Member
Who was saying he wasn't?
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
I'm still playing but just sporadically. This is one of the busiest times of the year for new games so most people are busy. Plus I feel that there isn't much to discuss with Marvel at this point in time now as well.
I still play a ton- grateful to have local players to play with weekly. I have a weekly every Friday and we've been getting some stronger Japanese players to show up recently. Vairos should he coming this week (plays a bizarro team but makes it work- Haggar/Skrull/Frank). Going to a kusoge Japan event on Sunday and Mamespider will be there- he eliminated me from KVO so I'm looking forward to getting a runback. End of November, marvel is back at mix-up night. Hoping Marlinpie will attend since he'll apparently be in Japan at the time.
I haven't played for a little more than a week, though only because I've kinda started playing a few games from my backlog(been having a blast with Dragon's Dogma again) in between college. I still love this game, and I plan to play it again soon, but breaks are good every now and then.
I also sort of want to make a video of some Dante specific stuff, but I've been lazy.
I also sort of want to make a video of some Dante specific stuff, but I've been lazy.
Professor Beef
Banned
Haven't touched the game since I got back from EVO and put it back in its case.
Karsticles
Member
How many hours has Beef put into a game he doesn't like, I wonder...
Needlecrash
Member
I've been having a VERY rough time in Marvel lately. I'm dropping combos left and right, learning Dante is quite tasking & I'm having a very hard time trying to establish my neutral game with different characters. My team of Chris/Spencer/Taskmaster can't really do much at all in terms of having good assists and establishing my neutral. So for now, I decided to step back away from it for a while and it's been very refreshing.
After 4 years in my backlog, I finally finished Bayonetta; just in time for the 2nd one.
After 4 years in my backlog, I finally finished Bayonetta; just in time for the 2nd one.
Needlecrash
Member
Next time I see Unkn0wn, I'll personally have to give him props on this. He's a local in our area.
Chris and Task both offer strong neutral assists though. The team probably suffers against characters who can play lame from the top of the screen, but otherwise it sounds solid to me.
Needlecrash
Member
I switched from Gun Fire to Grenade Toss assist for defensive purposes. Taskmaster uses the Vertical Arrows assist to deal with those pesky aerial characters (Storm, Morrigan, Dormammu, etc). Sometimes, I'm able to get some characters in a vortex with Chris & Taskmaster and it's quite satisfying. For example, if I'm playing against Doom, I'll toss some grenades while calling Taskmaster assist and Doom will most likely foot dive into me if he's close. I'll dash underneath Doom last minute and he'll not only have to deal with getting hit with the arrows, he'll get heated due to the grenades and I can use Flamethrower for more meter and damage.
Professor Beef
Banned
Wasn't so much a hateful post as it was the truth. After EVO I didn't really have any desire to play Marvel anymore, as it was replaced by wanting to play more SF.
People can have fun with bad games, you know!
Karsticles
Member
A lack of people here asking to play. A lack of time. I figured out my team, and it is pretty formulaic at this point. That said, I'm not saying "no Marvel". If someone wanted to play here, I would do it. Though the netcode is so bad that it harms my player pool even more.But Karst why
Smash came out. Smash is a Marvel-tier game to me (S tier).
I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY HOURS YOU HAVE BETWEEN THE TWO VERSIONS!Wasn't so much a hateful post as it was the truth. After EVO I didn't really have any desire to play Marvel anymore, as it was replaced by wanting to play more SF.
People can have fun with bad games, you know!
I can't really find Street Fighter fun.
Professor Beef
Banned
I dunno lol, but I can check after work.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
Chris and Taskmaster is so much fun. It was my vanilla team. I can't play Chris anymore but grenade fire for lock down plus machine gun fire and task arrows is crazy and the chip damage from a raw block is great.