Tornado Condor
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I finally beat smurfx! Woo
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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT4| Nothing Stops This Patch!
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The Mango Sentinel
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I'll play if my internet stops being a piece of shit. It's been terrible all day.
Controller is a good method. I like playing on the standard 360 pad but there's just some stuff I can't do in fighting games on it (FADC and reliably X-factor.) I always rockedassist on r-bumper and r-trigger. H-M on L-bumper and nothing on l-trigger.
That MLG stick can be dual modded.
That MLG stick can be dual modded.
Tornado Condor
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The Mango Sentinel
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Why not put x-factor on the unused trigger?
Too many accidental activations.
The Mango Sentinel
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That shit sucks. I would be so sad to watch my entire team lose to that.
I see. Yeah I have my xf on RB/R1, triggers are assists, and LB/L1 is blank or occasionally used for L
Well you could cross-over counter at the right moment. But then they could see that coming and punish it.
"God's Beard!"
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Couldn't you wake up super with some characters? Like Strange's projectile counter?
"God's Beard!"
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You still need X-factor to avoid the punish from Dante.
This is really old, I think I've seen multiple Trish players use this. RDK used to use this all the time. I think I've even seen Jago use it.
The Trish unblockable is definitely old, but the setup is entirely different since it's point Dante rawtagged to Trish instead of point Trish. Theoretically should be midscreen possible too provided you're good at making Sky Dance hit right.
The thing with this setup is that there's no guaranteed setup on the incoming character, it's still crazy good on a solo character.
JeTmAn81
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XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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Too bad I am so not used to an optimized Hulk team, I still didn't know what to do with it, lol.
Karsticles
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Dropping Wesker?
The Mango Sentinel
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Been playing Modok/Dante/Strider a lot and it's such a fun team. I really wish Modok's puddle on the cr.M was bigger, cause corner throws are a bitch to capitalize on against certain characters (fuck you Trish). And I thought about something that would be so awesome for Strider....if he could chain his Excaliburs, that would be fucking sweet. Going from Excalibur M to Excalibur L would be my shit. Being able to chain his Ame-No-Murakamo's would be awesome too.
Pipe dreams.
Pipe dreams.
I don't think so, we were just playing alt teams.
I just wish Excalibur M and H were actually useful...
The Mango Sentinel
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M and H have their uses. I use M on incoming a lot to get out of trouble. I use H+assist to cross people when they're coming in.
Hmm. That's good to know.
I get people on incoming with basic assist + teleport.
I usually have him on anchor, so I just go ham with Ouroboros.
The Mango Sentinel
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Oh Karst you still have this for Hulk
+Gamma Tornado (all versions) hitbox significantly increased; throws the opponent less far away, allowing for a Gamma Wave L + assist extension as with air throws.
You should correct to say that it's been made easier.
+Gamma Tornado (all versions) hitbox significantly increased; throws the opponent less far away, allowing for a Gamma Wave L + assist extension as with air throws.
You should correct to say that it's been made easier.
Tornado Condor
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Ha yeah he used to whip my ass but I finally stepped my game up and I kick ass now.
Karsticles
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Would you PM me this so I don't forget? On my phone.
Question for anyone who knows or wants to figure something out for me: after Doom does aerial Photon Array during an air series, can you DHC into Gold Armor and link OTG fire bottle?
Aerial photon array causes a soft knockdown, I believe (unless you are OTGing with it, in which case they stay in the hard knockdown state for photon array's duration). You could probably DHC to gold armor and continue the combo (don't know why you would though).
we playing ft10 next time. don't like ft3 in player matches.
Karsticles
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I am thinking photon array, gold armor, fire bottle, raw tag Dormammu in. So long as I can get the fire bottle OTG, this will actually have frame advantage.
"God's Beard!"
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why
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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I would like to at times but he is the best for my team. I need a fast OTG assist. The only other character that could work is Deadpool, but Deadpool anchor is gross. Wesker is a good anchor but the only problem is he isn't covering the other two characters weakness's too well and there are characters that do well against all three of my characters. Wesker helps vanilla Wright get at least some decent damage. Regular Wright damage alone is beyond ass. Plus I like playing Wesker and I like Resident Evil so it's a natural fit.
I wish I could play Dante though. I love him but he's easily my worst character in the entire game. I can't do anything with that guy, but he would be great on the team. Overall I'm happy where I ended up with my team. I got characters I like and characters I feel that I can play decently well, (I admit I don't have the best execution that some characters demand) but I like using all of this games characters and mixing things up.
I never stick to one character or team in fighting games usually in the past, even in vanilla MvC3 for the most part, but once my favorite video game character (Wright) was announced I told myself I would dedicate myself to being the best Wright team I could be, just because I love the character, no matter how bad he was. Well I can say I stuck to my guns.
FT3 is like a warm up for a FT10 or FT20.
The Mango Sentinel
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[QUOTE="God's Beard!";87946663]why[/QUOTE]
You barely have time to adjust or even figure out what team to use if you run multiple teams.
You barely have time to adjust or even figure out what team to use if you run multiple teams.
Professor Beef
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I've got a free 30 minutes. Anyone on PSN wanna play?
"God's Beard!"
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I meant why would anyone ever play a ft3 in player matches. ft10 minimum, ft50 preferred,
Viscant wrote extensively on that exact team: http://blog.brokentier.com/382/team-tutorials-volume-2-weskers-last-stand-part-1/
shaowebb
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Right then. Thats probably all I'll need then to help Red. I'll pass this along. Hows the patch notes comin?
Damn I have never seen that Viscant post.
A+ material as always, hit all the right notes for that team. IMO it's Wesker's best team and is the only team that makes him a major threat in tournaments nowadays.
Probably need Karst to write up more annotations as well so we can finalize those as well.
A+ material as always, hit all the right notes for that team. IMO it's Wesker's best team and is the only team that makes him a major threat in tournaments nowadays.
Like I said before it's 99% done we are just buffing some characters that still need buffing. Still waiting on the other 2 committee members to comment so we can wrap it up.
Probably need Karst to write up more annotations as well so we can finalize those as well.
Karsticles
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My wife is taking a trip to Michigan for two weeks, so I am going to have a lot of time to do annotations. We just need Frantic and Zissou to comment on our ideas.
We definitely need to create better assists for Jill and Spider-man. They are looking stiff compared to the rest of the cast. Two more ideas for Spider-man:
1) We use the Web Throw animation, but there is no "grab" animation; the player is just pulled in.
2) We use the Web Zip animation, which locks off part of the screen with a web. It would be interesting for it to follow up into a j.H from Spider-man, but that might be too much for them to code.
We could even make the Web Zip cause a Web Toss state on opponents it hits.
Sorry that I haven't posted a response. Been pretty busy. For that, I'm gonna be more brief about this than normal.
Sure, why not.
While I do think Chris needs at least an overhead, I feel the utility he gets from the current f.H outweighs the small boon of having an overhead. I'd be fine with Dahbomb's suggestion of charging it for a few frames, though.
Not really sure about these.
Not really sure I agree with this one. It might ruin some of his combos.
Sure.
Dunno about this one.
Sure. You'd have to adjust the hitstun/pushback on the move to get it to combo, though. Trying it in H&H shows it's really finicky right now, and it can't combo as an anti-air.
For the assist?
Sure.
Sure.
Striked the ones I don't really like.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure to the first, no to the second.
As long as they don't end up being spammable, sure.
Sure.
Sure.
The problem with these is that they fall into a sort of gray area of our patch. While they would use existing animations, they'd still need to adjust them, which is animation work in and of itself. While I have no problems with them, they are, imo, asking too much of a patch.
Karsticles
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Thanks Frantic. Help me think of assist ideas for some of those guys. I made a few more suggestions above.
Once Zissou comments, I will draft up full revisions.
Are you opposed to reducing Tron's minimum air dash height?
Once Zissou comments, I will draft up full revisions.
Are you opposed to reducing Tron's minimum air dash height?
Reducing air dash height? Not that much of a problem.
But removing the limit completely is crazy.
But removing the limit completely is crazy.
This was one of my ideas that I never suggested. Essentially the idea was that Spider Man would use his Web Throw diagonally up but instead of the throw animation you would get the Spencer Grapple where he would just stand the opponent. It could work but the reason why I didn't submit this is because it further forces you to pick between Spider Man and Spencer along with more comparisons being made.
Yeah that's pretty much what I said. It's stretching the limits of the patch to a point where I am not comfortable with them.
I played against a Vergil/Doom(Rocks)/Ammy that was pretty annoying to deal with. His lockdown strings were pretty ridiculous despite only using Spiral Swords on a couple of occasions(and not using Round Trip glitch), and he used Devil Trigger regularly. His use of Judgment Cut in neutral was also pretty impressive, as I haven't seen/played anyone who can use it well against more mobile characters. Renewed my hatred in Vergil's normals(though he had a bad habit of pushblocking into a normal everytime with Vergil that blew him up constantly).
Wasn't the scariest Vergil I've played by any means, but he was playing Vergil the way I figure our proposed patch Vergil would end up being played. It's kinda funny how that was more or less all I could think about as I fought him(besides "fuck s.H").
Wasn't the scariest Vergil I've played by any means, but he was playing Vergil the way I figure our proposed patch Vergil would end up being played. It's kinda funny how that was more or less all I could think about as I fought him(besides "fuck s.H").
I'll try to think of some that don't require a whole lot of adjustments or what not. Most of it would probably just be adjusting certain properties of existing moves to give them more use as an assist without affecting the point version.
Not at all. Removing it is just pushing it too far. Only one who doesn't have a minimum air dash height is MODOK, and he's a unique case due to his jump being a flight.
Tron
Can we have King Servbot still come out if Tron gets hit? (Like Hyper Sentinel Force)
Currently if Tron gets hit early enough during King Servbot, the Servbot does not come out. It's not an essential change, but I feel like it would give the hyper more utility than it currently has.
Can we have King Servbot still come out if Tron gets hit? (Like Hyper Sentinel Force)
Currently if Tron gets hit early enough during King Servbot, the Servbot does not come out. It's not an essential change, but I feel like it would give the hyper more utility than it currently has.
Tornado Condor
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Ft3 is tournament style ;b
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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Phoenix Wright suggestions (all toward making non-turnabout Wright more fearsome):
-reduce discard (investigation) startup
Is this really a problem? He throws his evidence out pretty fast as it is and can immediately grab another one.
-reduce discard (investigation) startup
Is this really a problem? He throws his evidence out pretty fast as it is and can immediately grab another one.
It's really not, especially with increased durability it should be fine as is.