list me the characters w/ better wakeup than rose homeboy
then list the characters w/ worse wakeup
this character doesn't exist in a vacuum because you're too lazy to lab stuff up for a half hour with your character
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-meaty throw beats everything but backdash and jump, jump is floaty as shit so you can't neutral jump w/o being punished by every character in the game (can't ex spiral, can't reversal u2, beats focus backdash), low risk
-meaty button OS throw beats everything except backdash and focus backdash (can't jump, can't ex spiral, can't reversal u2 or u1), rose may be able to whiff punish the throw (?)
-meaty button OS long range normal / special beats everything except focus backdash, sometimes EX spiral depending on the situation (can't jump, can't reversal u1 or u2, can't backdash)
all of these options beat wakeup cs.MK, which you are treating like a DP or some shit. this isn't even getting into REAL oki stuff like divekicks that are active from 1-landing, safe jump OS, crossup setups, command grabs, or moves that make ex spiral whiff.
Lol, I figured out all of my punishes on her backdash back in Super, so no need to make things so personal. Unfortunately, I usually have to circumvent traditional pressure to OS unless it's off of a safe jump, which incidentally, are harder to set up in this game.
Characters with worse wakeup:
Hakan, Juri, Cody, Dhalsim, Abel, Makoto, El Fuerte, Rolento, Vega, Rufus. Rose's wakeup is about as good as Balrogs.
Real divekick and crossup (ie: akuma and cammy) pressure everyone has to deal with, so no use crying about that. Thing is, she can punish bad dive kicks with ex soul throw or ultra if she's looking for them.
Meaty throw beats block, focus backdash and ex spiral. Loses to focus tech xx backdash, backdash, jump back and close st mk (I don't know why people act like this is so hard).
Backdash OS beats backdash. Depending on the OS, Backdash OS loses to ex spiral. Ex spiral OS will sometime lose to backdash, though it also depends on the character and OS.
EX Spiral FADC beats everything except Spiral OS, early jump back or throw.
She can focus xx backdash out of some safe jumps, depends on the character. Ryu can catch her with sweep, but Dudley doesn't get anything except ex duck straight depending on how close she is to the corner.
Because as has been pointed out several times already, she has nothing unique that blows up meaty jab/short/throw pressure.
Loses to focus tech xx backdash.
