Chun Li and Viper's outfits are vile. They're going to be really distracting to play against.
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Ultra Street Fighter IV |OT| What is old is new once again
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Chun Li and Viper's outfits are vile. They're going to be really distracting to play against.
AkumaHokoru
Member
need to see some other colors on a lot of those outfits.
Most of them are really bad or meh.
Gief looks quite good though, Boxer got dem sick sideburns giving me wolfkrone flashbacks, Honda looks acceptable and Guile's mask kinda reminds me of Manjimaru.
I wish Capcom would give Ryu a costume that's a little bit more flashier than his usual stuff.
Gief looks quite good though, Boxer got dem sick sideburns giving me wolfkrone flashbacks, Honda looks acceptable and Guile's mask kinda reminds me of Manjimaru.
I wish Capcom would give Ryu a costume that's a little bit more flashier than his usual stuff.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
Holy fuck, DeeJay's outfit is unspeakably awful. Just when I thought he as a [sorry excuse of a] character wasn't appalling enough already. Not one but two leagues above Viper's, Rose's, Chun-Li's, Abel's and Seth's terrible new alt costumes, even. How on earth was that design even approved of by anyone involved in its shameful creation?
I hope he gets nerfed into the ground moreso than he already is for Ultra's balance patch. DeeJay (and by extension his fans) cannot be redeemed.
Or Ranked was never something worth taking serious in the first place. In any SFIV iteration.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Most of those costumes are terrible. Come on Capcom.
CountBlack
Member
What happens when you're already in the ground though? Like 6ft into the ground? Can he get nerfed more?
Combofiend answer me pls
He will go through the ground and rises on the other side again higher than ever before. The S-Tier DeeJay.
So USF4 has been out for close to 2 months. What's the impression so far?
For example new mechanics like DWU, RFADC, Red Focus and W Ultra. Or overall changes in matchups and netcode.
The raw Red Focus seems to be the least useful mechanic so far.
CountBlack
Member
I don't understand why characters that can utilize Red focus and XRF have more damage on theirs but a character with a shit focus attack and almost no good ways to exRF does less damage.
What I'm saying is;
Yun full red focus = 210 Damage.
Rose full red focus = 180 Damage.
Why isn't this consistent? Is it because vagina tax?
What I'm saying is;
Yun full red focus = 210 Damage.
Rose full red focus = 180 Damage.
Why isn't this consistent? Is it because vagina tax?
stn
Member
IMO...
-DWU is not good, makes the game even more defensive
-Red focus is amazing for combos
-Raw red focus isn't too useful
-Character balance changes need work (Rolento, Elena, Hugo, Dee-Jay, Sagat, Akuma, etc...)
-Tons of glitches and hit-box issues
Overall I'd give USF4 a 6/10. It still feels like a beta test.
hitsugi
Member
uh, different characters do different amounts of damage?
CountBlack
Member
Oh shit really?
Really though, what I'm saying is that characters with really good focus attacks getting the max damage and characters with really bad focus attacks getting below max damage is just backwards to me.
Oh shit really?
Really though, what I'm saying is that characters with really good focus attacks getting the max damage and characters with really bad focus attacks getting below max damage is just backwards to me.
It's a system that benefits some characters an order of magnitude more than others. It's inherently an unbalanced system mechanic in terms of gameplan. That being said, I'd say the crumple is the more important aspect of red focus, which is a universal factor.
CountBlack
Member
Yea the exCrumple feature is a much bigger factor, but when you can end a match with a character than can do tons of meter less damage and by using a full red focus, its definitely worth it.
First person I saw really utilizing a full level 3 red focus when the other person is stunned was Kazunoko. Made me realize that shit does tons of damage. It's like 210 + Whatever meter less combo Yun can come up with.. which is almost everything lol.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
"Even more defensive" like it was a defense oriented game before?
I've never played dudes in ranked who were top 500 pp who weren't super good compared to me.
When WASN'T it a defensive fighter?
2012 felt like "Super Vortex Fighter IV" at times.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Every version except Super, and that would've turned out to be more offense oriented too if people played that version longer.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
You know, I harbor a just-under-the-surface contempt for this game most of the time and things like this just make it worse. Garish garbage. Smh.
I think it affects the tone of the game too. I mean a few funny costumes are ok, dan blanka .plumber rolento etc..but when you get these joke costumes instead of something actually well designed and cool its super disappointing. With a few exceptions (bad as yellow suit fei, aztec warrior t hawk) i think majority of the alts old and new are pretty bad. Who the fuck saw sagat with a wig and said 'yeah that looks good'?
stn
Member
IV always had strong defensive elements. The vortex was so good because it was usually the only viable way of opening characters up. Crouch tech, focus attack, invincible back-dashes, FADC'ing to safety, and things like that made it hard for characters to get damage. Vanilla was different because the damage was high.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
Then you bury him so deep that he'll never in a million years be unearthed.
Half the costumes are pretty good anyway/
direct_quote
Member
Professor Beef
Banned
Sagat with a wig is supposed to be reminiscent of Adon, which is why he has his bandanna-thing.
Sagat with wig is a sacrilege... not to forget that pesky Blanka alt and ganguro Sakura *shudders*. In general most of the costumes are really bad with a few exceptions. The only thing USF4 needs for full bad are neon colors.
Going to agree with the plumber Rolento. That costume is amazing.
So hypothetically speaking who would you guys use if Edition Select were standard?
Professor Beef
Banned
AE Yun
Wig Sagat is just a failure in critical thinking. I want to know how drunk Ono was when he said 'yes' to that.
A tossup between 2012/Ultra Fuerte. 180 Damage Fajita and good Q Bombs vs a corpse-hopping shower kick and killing delayed wakeup.
Oh, then there might be something wrong with my DS4! By the way, I was using it through bluetooth, not wired connection.
Usf4 yun is worse imo.
It's a glitch with the wireless. Plug it in to the ps3 and you're golden.
The Guile one looks cool to me. Back in the day I rocked the tactical outfit.
It's totally a D. Dark rip-off, which is weird because that's an Arika character character...it's like they're asking to be hit with copy infringement!
hitsugi
Member
Vanilla Akuma. Loops + vortex were just way too fun to do.
Just using the lessons learned from the Fighter's History lawsuit...
Passive Assassin
Member
i hope they fix the netplay for pc by then ... hahahahaha :[
sixteen-bit
Member
Super Adon with that tournament winning wakeup speed.
Mechanized
Member
Those costumes look horrible. Except for Guile and maybe Oni. D.Dark for life!
joffocakes
Member
Finally tried using my DS4 on PC for steam. Headed right for trial mode and completed Cammy, Hakan and Sagat's trials more easily than I thought. I'd always had trouble with the DS3 compared to the 360 pad I used to use but the DS4's dpad feels great.
I have trouble with kara throws and piano-type modes on pad, though. Not that that's specific to DS4.