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Ultra Street Fighter IV |OT| What is old is new once again
- Thread starter Kadey
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When this happens I usually attribute it to lag or start thinking I'm godlike and then get destroyed by a 300 pp player.
When it happens I usually run into some whack ass shotos that dash up four times to me and throw. Like it's confirming that I've entered some alternate universe
Trickster
Member
Strangely this doesn't happen to me....I play T.hawk though ^_^
condor spire condor spire condor spire condor spire GRAB
Passive Assassin
Member
combo looks so cool :O
Good thing I don't do that...I just ultra on people's wakeup =)
How is that whack?
Passive Assassin
Member
wave dashing doesn't exist in street fighter!
New 21st century terminology; extremely unorthodox gameplay = whack
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
This game is immensely fucked up on PC, what have they even been doing since the beta started?
They began work but then were sidetracked by Dead Rising 3 being a clusterfuck. We're waiting for DR3 to untangle itself so they can get back to this game.
I think Capcom hired 2 people to port titles to PC, with one being a secretary.
Nothing.
Yup. You can plink anything really. Throws, Ultras, unique attacks, ect. Not sure what the priority of unique attacks are though.
It definitely does. It works on the whole cast in the corner.
Professor Beef
Banned
I played a handful of Ranked matches today and had no lag whatsoever. Not sure where this "PC net play sucks" talk is coming from unless you're not in the beta.
No Rolentos this morning either, but I fought an Adon who didn't know how to TK Jaguar Kick.
No Rolentos this morning either, but I fought an Adon who didn't know how to TK Jaguar Kick.
hitsugi
Member
Well they started the beta, fixed all of the issues for a week.. then who knows.
Passive Assassin
Member
so s.fierce or c.forward into ex stinger into qcb jab or strong x strong for the cool rolento combo
so s.fierce or c.forward into ex stinger into qcb jab or strong x strong for the cool rolento combo
From my testing, you have to hit c.forward from max distance or so. Point blank st.hk into cr.mk should leave you at the right distance. I think if the knives hit too high up, there's just not enough frame advantage. The Air Raid has to be the fierce version. The initial roll doesn't seem to matter as long as you cancel it into the attack asap.
CountBlack
Member
MAN. I just love doing an ultra on somebody else's wakeup. Especially when you know for a fact that they're planning to do every other option they have except block.
If you time that shit just right, its hilarious. Just in time to catch a back dash/crouch tech/reversal
only do it when I got no other choice tho
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
If I don't have enough health to block another attack and get a knockdown, I usually try to Ultra them on their wakeup and catch a reversal. It's worked maybe once but it's fun to try.
CountBlack
Member
You was just straight up talking about mashing shit after doing some shit that's like 0/-1 on block.
I'm talkin bout makin educated guesses Ume-Ultra's breh
I really doubt it (then again, if someone said Luffy would win, I would doubt that too). Nemo got away with so many things this past weekend and I feel like the higher caliber players would have less trouble against his Rolento.
+ frames and sakura's throw range is borderline insane
This. I faced two people in a row who refused to stop pressing buttons on wakeup.
Saved it until the last bits of health for the last round, then POW!
Also, in general Balrogs seem to not block. Dem cr. jabs.
She has insane plus frames. Cammy can do this too. Annoying!
Is this something only a few characters can do? Ive tried doing it before and I always get beat by crouch jabs
Check the frame data on your lights on block. That will determine whether crouch jabs beat you or not.
CountBlack
Member
I feel he keeps his E. Ryu very efficient. Not necessary simple, but efficient. Lots of other players go for the longest/max damage possible but Daigo keeps it short and simple.
Wait til he works those Kara-demons into his game :banderas:
The Mango Sentinel
Member
I sometimes do that just to get people to stop doing something. I like to show "yeah this is what I'm waiting for" just so you won't jump/throw a fireball/etc. If I'm actually desperate and hoping to hit it, then I hide it in other inputs (jabs, mediums or whatever)
edit: forgot to mention that I mostly use a combination of both. Make it obvious and then use it unexpectedly.
whenever I see that I always dash forward, it causes them to panic and stop or to mis-time whatever counter they were looking for.
Rice-Eater
Member
Since more footage of Daigo's Evil Ryu been coming out I've always see a handful of comments saying Daigo isn't doing optimized combos and that his Evil Ryu isn't as good as Sako or PR Rog's Evil Ryu. It kind of bugs me because these guys have no idea what they're talking about. Daigo doesn't go for those very long FADC combos because he's doing the shorter one that does more stun.
People aren't aware of that and think the other combo does more stun and damage just because it last longer or because that's what every Evil Ryu player does. I'll admit I do it to, but that's because it's more risky going for the max stun combo. You have to FADC earlier and if you miss that link than the damage you dealt is a lot less than screwing up the FADC link with the longer combo. Daigo isn't afraid of that and wants to go for the stun instead.
As for who the best Evil Ryu is. People have to remember that Sako was using Evil Ryu in AE 2012 when he had all those corner set ups. Those are not guaranteed anymore and since USF4 dropped we've probably only seen Sako's Evil Ryu a few times. Hard to say how good it is now. As for PR Rog, he only uses him in certain match ups. He won't hesitate to switch and Balrog is still his go to character in most situations. Unless someone like Machabo is really the best Evil Ryu, I'd have to give it to Daigo easily right now.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Anybody want to see play a quick set on xbl?
AkumaHokoru
Member
When other people notice you have gotten better...then you have.
It's jabs/shorts in general in SF4- it's one of the flaws of the game- they're too good due to how the game system changed from SF2 to SF4, and the amount you can get off them. It's an area where the SF team was a little short-sighted in its design (but such things are hard to find out in the wild) Most fighting games do have this problem to some degree, it's just most obvious in SF4. I did like how BBEX/CP did something about jab combos by nerfing the damage hard.
hitsugi
Member
No, no.. My point is that Daigo's Evil Ryu has evolved a ton over just the last couple of months, and I was using him as a perfect example of how much a player can improve over that period of time.
As far as I'm concerned, Daigo has completely optimized Evil Ryu - for himself. Anyone saying he isn't going for optimal combos, etc. probably hasn't seen more recent videos. I would put Daigo over what I've last seen from Sako at this point. Not in terms of flash, per se, but in terms of an actual, solid play style that is extremely effective.
Stallion Dan
Member
OMG I knew it. I thought this was just some BS I was seeing because was online.
Passive Assassin
Member
i just did c.forward point black ex stinger so that two knives can hit and mash ex air raid and it works!
now onto c.fierce into LL loops with chun ri
hitsugi
Member
Was that before or after Nemo allegedly "convincingly" beat Daigo in an FT20?
Such modesty all around
the_log_ride
Member
LOL at the opening of the 2nd round. Looking crispy with those RSFs, man...
I'm a sucker for Focus Attack Chicken. My execution was all over the place that day, I dropped like half my combos.
hitsugi
Member
I've never seen anyone put his E.Ryu up there. He just picks E.Ryu when he doesn't like the match-up, and we're more likely to see him pick Yun instead soon.
KuroPyonyo
Banned
Am I just really stupid or did the non upgrade version just vanish in the steam store?