The Mango Sentinel
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If a Cody player knows the Rolento matchup, this shit seems unwinnable. It currently feels like Rolento's worst matchup.
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Ultra Street Fighter IV |OT| What is old is new once again
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tsunami643
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CountBlack
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why the hell did you use that super
More ranked progression: Played 15 matches, beat some good players, some trash players. Lost to 3 trash players. Lost my soul. How can I win 12 matches and come out with less points than I started with breh
NIGGAFUCK
I lost to a trash Guile who I kept thinking would amount to shit, but he didn't and played the most basic style and I kept expecting shit from him and it was so basic I just got slowly out played.
Lost to a Guy that did pseudo unsafe slides the mashes ex tats
Lost to a T Hawk I had like a 70% life lead on by getting hit by an Ultra. I did hit him with like 5 or so Soul Throws then missed one then lost the whole match.
niqqa.
fuq.
The Mango Sentinel
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why the hell did you use that super
More ranked progression: Played 15 matches, beat some good players, some trash players. Lost to 3 trash players. Lost my soul. How can I win 12 matches and come out with less points than I started with brehNIGGAFUCK
I lost to a trash Guile who I kept thinking would amount to shit, but he didn't and played the most basic style and I kept expecting shit from him and it was so basic I just got slowly out played.
Lost to a Guy that did pseudo unsafe slides the mashes ex tats
Lost to a T Hawk I had like a 70% life lead on by getting hit by an Ultra. I did hit him with like 5 or so Soul Throws then missed one then lost the whole match.
niqqa.
fuq.
Don't you love this game breh?
I got trashed earlier by one of the best players I've ever played against period. Online or offline. I think my first 2 losses just mindfucked me for the rest of the time because I just couldn't recover. I've played against him before and he always ends up winning like 5-7 more matches than me when we play a long set (20+ games), but today I just got completely wrecked.
Professor Beef
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Maybe if you were good with Rose you wouldn't have missed that Soul Throw and lost yourself the game.
tsunami643
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why the hell did you use that super
I didn't realize it was BO5. Still werf.
CountBlack
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I played a dude with like 5000pp today called Crispe117. Poison is fuckin cheap. I beat him like 3 times out of 10+
I'm gonna buy and mail you an xbox just so I can give you this workMaybe if you were good with Rose you wouldn't have missed that Soul Throw and lost yourself the game.
In honor of Pepedey I went into the training room and messed around with Fuerte, tryna see if Gief's lariat was actually as useless against Fuerte as Snake Eyez made it seem by not using it at all.
Seems Snake Eyez had the right idea.
I also learned that it is, in fact, possible to reaction throw EX Q bombs. But only if the Fuerte is being real lazy with his spacing and doing it from mid to 3/4 screen. Anything else is basically Tool-Assisted because it's impossible to react that quick and there's probably still invincibility. But half three quarter screen is just within the edge of human reaction. I will of course, never use this in a real match ever. But it's fun to practice, like some fucked up minigame where if you lose you get chested and/or wallbounced.
Seems Snake Eyez had the right idea.
I also learned that it is, in fact, possible to reaction throw EX Q bombs. But only if the Fuerte is being real lazy with his spacing and doing it from mid to 3/4 screen. Anything else is basically Tool-Assisted because it's impossible to react that quick and there's probably still invincibility. But half three quarter screen is just within the edge of human reaction. I will of course, never use this in a real match ever. But it's fun to practice, like some fucked up minigame where if you lose you get chested and/or wallbounced.
ShinMaruku
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAfK_gtPA00
This guy is saying I am getting better.. >_>
This guy is saying I am getting better.. >_>
why the hell did you use that super
More ranked progression: Played 15 matches, beat some good players, some trash players. Lost to 3 trash players. Lost my soul. How can I win 12 matches and come out with less points than I started with brehNIGGAFUCK
I lost to a trash Guile who I kept thinking would amount to shit, but he didn't and played the most basic style and I kept expecting shit from him and it was so basic I just got slowly out played.
Lost to a Guy that did pseudo unsafe slides the mashes ex tats
Lost to a T Hawk I had like a 70% life lead on by getting hit by an Ultra. I did hit him with like 5 or so Soul Throws then missed one then lost the whole match.
niqqa.
fuq.
So what the PP at though?
CountBlack
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Nah man the cool thing about Street Fighter is you never truly "peak". You always learn something.
Yea you are man. Just need to work on dem fundamentals.
Snacks the sober sea lion
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Seems like your impulse in a lot of situations is to either jump, sweep, or EX pinwheel, and you put yourself in the corner a few times. Don't try to mash jab much against grapplers, because they'll mash a command grab back at you and get you if there's any space between attacks. Remember Juri's anti-airs (c.mp and c.hp especially) and try not to sweep against jump-ins. Juri can at least make her jumps semi-safe with well-spaced divekicks, though you still probably shouldn't really be jumping around much.
ShinMaruku
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Hugo is just forcing me to learn with grapplers... Working on the Jumping. I was so flustered when he was making that comeback after my excellent first round. 
Nemesis121
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You Jump a lot. but if you gonna jump Juri Medium punch is god like, and it also starts a juggle combo, after MP in the air, do standing FP into ex fireball, also depending on the character you facing for example Sakura her jump is kinda floaty, you can MP in the air, and then jump back into to the air and do an ex dive kick into ex spinning kick..
ShinMaruku
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I had a feeling I could grab Hugo out of that but too scared to try it sometimes.
CountBlack
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I've finally gotten the cr.lpx3 times into lynx tail down
FUCKIN FINALLY
FUCKIN FINALLY
y not cr lp x2 st lk lynx tail? Makes it easier to get the input in cleaner for me at least.
TOP 5 Ultra Combos in USF4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6T8HDpNsM8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6T8HDpNsM8
CountBlack
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with the st. LK it makes it more obvious of which option I'm going for tbh
The Mango Sentinel
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Well what are your options? I just started playing her so I'm trying to get info. I do the st. LK as well but sometimes I mallet smash and sometimes I lynx tail.
don't spam your shitty channel just to get some CPM showcasing your dumbass opinions on the best ultras in the game
CountBlack
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Professor Beef
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lmao, all his past posts are him pimping his channel
CountBlack
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lmao dude dgaf
RockTurtle
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FGW | Don't bring that shit in my house - Vulva
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A few days ago, I finally won against fairly good Rolento player. I suck and I am supper scrubby for some odd reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R6QBd1FCm0#
Any tips guys?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R6QBd1FCm0#
Any tips guys?
Well you are really impatient. You got away with it because the Rolento couldn't anti-air, though. It's not really on me to tell you when to jump in this case, cos sometimes it works out, but you should really chill out at certain points, like when you're getting up and when you just got hit.
Be as aggressive as you want in neutral and you're both standing up if you want, maybe you can make that work, but going ham on wakeup or right after you got smacked by something are signs you're being too reckless usually, and continuing to press forward in those cases against players that know what they're doing will get you stunned and killed most of the time because you're trying to attack from a disadvantageous position. Also if you're going to attack at these moments maybe try something safer/less costly lol. Don't just burn super or Ultra for random guesses like that.
Also, that Rolento is not that good.
Yeah, I think patience and just a good control of your inputs are needed. I'd personally recommend not to jump ever, unless you know it times a safe jump or if it throws off the opponent's anti-air timing. Jumping constantly (especially on your wakeup) is very bad and actual good players will capitalize on that since there's no way you can defend yourself while airborne. And like I said, control your inputs, don't mash out things constantly. Take it nice and slow and press buttons when it's appropriate.
stn
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Don't interpret this as harsh or anything, I'm laying everything out just so you get the full picture. So, basically, you play a very random Ryu. I'm going to assume you're new to Street Fighter in general? Here's a basic outline of how you should be playing Ryu:
GAMEPLAN:
You want to avoid jumping like you do. Here is a breakdown of what you should be doing based on range:
A. LONG RANGE
-Throw fireballs to build meter until your opponent gets within medium range.
-Does your opponent jump your fireball within distance? Anti-air with either fierce SRK or standing roundhouse
-Do not spam hurricane kicks. They may be hard to punish online but its a bad habit you want to get rid of
B. MEDIUM RANGE
-You want to learn how to poke with crouching medium kick (cr. mk) and cancel it into hadouken: Basically, you press "DOWN + Cr. MK", then immediately press "FORWARD + punch". --> This is a basic cancel and is a HUGE part of Ryu's gameplan
-What the above does is it creates chip damage and spaces your opponent further out. From there you can jump in, throw another fireball, or throw an EX fireball to catch your opponent off guard
-Try to make calculated jumps, don't just jump because you think its easy.
C. CLOSE RANGE
-You want to apply pressure using block strings (try cr. jab x 2, cr. mk cancelled into fireball, get it into your muscle memory for starters)
-You want to learn how to SRK and how to FADC out of it. But leave this until you get the basics down completely.
By pressuring your opponent from long range and medium range, you hopefully get them to jump. At that point you should get comfortable using fierce SRK or crouching fierce punch to anti-air. It is VERY important to know how to anti-air (AA) with Ryu, otherwise your fireballs will become largely ineffective.
Try to get a grip on this stuff first, then later I can post about Ryu's oki, hit-confirms, FADC stuff, and all that other jazz. Also, give a look at this match from ST. Its an old Street Fighter game but its also the most hardcore in terms of having good spacing. I honestly think every SF player should play it in order to learn how to stay grounded.
MATCH
Let me know if you have any questions. Also, feel free to upload more matches and I can continue to give you advice to the best of my ability.
Lost Fragment
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Kaleinc
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Jump in-cr Mk-sweep, forget that 'combo'.
Needlecrash
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CountBlack
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sf2fanatic
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Loved that Ryu mirror matches from ST. Great set
Lost Fragment
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"Don't jump ever" is bad advice imo. Like anything else in the game, you're just limiting your options for no reason if there's a thing that is good but you never do it because it's unsafe. You just can't be super predictable with it.
I get fucked up by people who make their jumps random enough. Probably my biggest weakness.
I mean if you're trying to train yourself to not jump all the time then it might be a good idea to go out of your way to not jump for a few weeks though. Just to clear bad habits out of your head so you can reintroduce it in a smarter way.
Gief u2 is also inconsistent against her neutral jump. I think maybe she just jumps higher more quickly than any other character so she'll jump right over the hitbox.
I kinda feel like the nerf where certain command grabs that were already super laggy on whiff got extra recovery frames was done purely so Elena could punish them with a neutral jump.
I get fucked up by people who make their jumps random enough. Probably my biggest weakness.
I mean if you're trying to train yourself to not jump all the time then it might be a good idea to go out of your way to not jump for a few weeks though. Just to clear bad habits out of your head so you can reintroduce it in a smarter way.
Gief u2 is also inconsistent against her neutral jump. I think maybe she just jumps higher more quickly than any other character so she'll jump right over the hitbox.
I kinda feel like the nerf where certain command grabs that were already super laggy on whiff got extra recovery frames was done purely so Elena could punish them with a neutral jump.
Robot Pants
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Yun's cr.mp completely whiffs on her in the corner.
GOOOOOD character. Well thought-out and executed. Thanks, Peter.
But this happens with every new release. Yun and Yang were straight up broken and top tier when AE released.
Now we got the five new characters and 4 of them are close to top tier in the game (in my opinion). They'll be fixed, but for now :/
stn
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Is there anyone who is legitimately convinced that El Fuerte is a true Street Fighter character? I'm watching some TFC matches with Pepeday slaughtering everyone. Every match has Fuerte's opponent jumping around like crazy trying to land a knockdown. It just looks so "hectic" and I don't quite like the fact that the character forces every character out of his element.
This whole trend of speedy characters who negate footsies and zoning is worrisome to me, I hope this crap never touches SF again. I get he's a fun character to play and he can create hype moments very well, I just think his existence is bad for the franchise. I like to watch tense matches where both players are itching to land that first jump. Not a match where jumping is done 99% of the time.
I would actually be fine with Fuerte and air-borne characters if they could actually be kept out for a whole round with the right type of zoning. But they can't. Even Vega, for all his walldive bullshit in ST, could be zoned with the right amount of patience.
This whole trend of speedy characters who negate footsies and zoning is worrisome to me, I hope this crap never touches SF again. I get he's a fun character to play and he can create hype moments very well, I just think his existence is bad for the franchise. I like to watch tense matches where both players are itching to land that first jump. Not a match where jumping is done 99% of the time.
I would actually be fine with Fuerte and air-borne characters if they could actually be kept out for a whole round with the right type of zoning. But they can't. Even Vega, for all his walldive bullshit in ST, could be zoned with the right amount of patience.