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Ultra Street Fighter IV |OT| What is old is new once again
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CountBlack
Member
DeeJay vs shotos...
RIP my friend
Deejay was already dead.
They seriously kicked a man while he was down on this one smh
Well good thing I found the rhythm in a new character. Mallet smash is unblock able online.
So when I pick Juri in training mode and have W Ultra, all her damage is 10% more and I can use U2 while in U1. In versus mode, I can't use U2 during U1 though.
Ah I figured out the U2 thing, it's a meter setting. The damage I can't figure out, but sometimes when I go into training mode scaling starts at 110% > 90% etc. I can't figure out why.
Ah I figured out the U2 thing, it's a meter setting. The damage I can't figure out, but sometimes when I go into training mode scaling starts at 110% > 90% etc. I can't figure out why.
Hellshingu
Member
For anyone with Android phones the frame data app is finally up it's called Ultra SFIV Frame Data App by Dorling Kindersley for $2.99. Sorry if old
You can look at these sites for Ultra changes and moves and stuff.
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Ultra_Street_Fighter_IV
http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2008/jul/08/street-fighter-4-strategy-guide-hints-and-tips/
http://shoryuken.com/2014/05/22/cap...for-ultra-street-fighter-ivs-console-release/
Aside from individual character changes the main new gameplay features are Red Focus which is done by just hitting LP+MP+MK at the same time. And also delayed wakeup which is done by pressing any 2 buttons as soon as you hit the ground from a knockdown.And also Double Ultras, but that is just the ability to have access to both characters Ultras in a match.
Rice-Eater
Member
I thought even if Sak players threw their fireball with the same timing, it would hit regardless? Is it because I'm charging all the way and you're suppose to release early to properly do that set up?
BTW I'm also reacting to DWU with Evil Ryu. After a hard knockdown, I'll do my normal jump in to try to remain as ambiguous as possible. And if I see "Technical" I'll dive kick mid way through the jump. It's not anything cheap though. I'll always land in front of them and though it's possible to get a cross up dive kick, it's extremely rare so their is no guessing game. But still, for me it's a nice way to keep up pressure. That or just empty jump
Were you playing against Vega with his mask off?
It's not the fireball set ups, it's the post otoshi 50/50/unblock set ups with all the timing filler. You have so much time and her jump is so quick, you can retain some set ups by seeing the technical and then adding in another button. It's how I created the unblock situation, I'm also using it for post U2 set ups in the corner. Midscreen stuff I'm lost on though, but I've barely tested stuff as is.
oh yeah deeeeeerrrrrrrrrpppppppppppppp I'm an idiot. The U1 U2 thing is funny still
nerfed air jaguar and less chip on jaguar- still good, just more honest now IMO.
Perfect, thanks.
CountBlack
Member
Same character tbh. He got more combo potential too
Yo I feel like if I took my Rolento online I would definitely get some hate mail. I was playing with some people in my scene and they were getting frustrated with it. I play Dudley mainly, but Rolento is my sub.
Was the code in the email or is it a link to gamestop for the code?
BotoxAgent
Member
Poison baby!
The code is right in the email they sent.
Do it.Give them the stick!
Passive Assassin
Member
i got this for psn... and ibuki is pretty good in this version. elena is alright, poison great for frame traps, rolento s.fierce all day, hugo no clue, and dekappa zz.
Deckard Cain
Banned
Yes they do unfortunately. DWU is terrible & needs to go. People don't understand yet the negative impact DWU has had on so many mid tier & low tier character. They robbed Peter to pay Paul.
Oh shit, Paul's in this game?!?
CountBlack
Member
From SRK you just throw a jab when you see technical and proceed as always.
Yes, one big reason I stopped playing her, don't think is PS3 issue because I have the same problems on 360 USF4 and even in PC Street Fighter X Tekken.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
So what's the GAF consensus so far on Ultra?
What's stopping you from walking up to them on knockdown and reacting to the "get up" animation? Or do you think there's no reward if you don't get ambiguous crossups/unblockables?
What's stopping you from walking up to them on knockdown and reacting to the "get up" animation? Or do you think there's no reward if you don't get ambiguous crossups/unblockables?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Nope haven't had any issues with her Rekka's at all. Her second super being HCB x2 is a pain though on pad
Shouta
Member
I'm digging it though there are some niggling issues here and there, I think.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
You can, before your last bar link c.lp into s.mk, into ex love whip, into normal love whip *or ultra lol* I found this last night too, pretty funny and easy to do
I hate that input. Whenever I play a character that has one of those, I just use the other ultra.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
What sucks is that it's actually really good as a reversal for poison in some match ups but that input :l
Shouta
Member
You get her EX flip, I think?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
You get an ex love whip :LOL
Really defeats the purpose. If they really want to keep it they should randomize the DWU frames or something.
I think Ibuki and Oni still have half circle ultras. They changed Oni's Ultra II from HCF to HCB I think, can't recall offhand. Half-circle inputs in the SFIV engine just suck generally because of the stupid input leniency.
Neither of those is a grab, though, right?
Hugo's input overlap is definitely a huge issue. HC + TK = regular SPD, but Meat Squasher never comes out from it. It's really stupid.
That Dude John
Member
Add me to the list for PSN: AeonisAlister
Huw_Dawson
Member
Once folks practice the differing setups off hard kd options, delayed wakeup will make no difference for Rufus players. Gonna be nice.
I feel like maybe it's easier on a pad? It doesn't seem so bad.
EDIT: Wait, you use pad. What kind of pad do you use?
Yorotoshii functions as a grab in throw distance, doesn't it? But I see what you mean.
Re input overlap, they didn't learn anything from Hakan.
Guy and Ibuki's Ultra grab are the exact same as Poison's. Same input and same bullshit where your opponent can just simply jump out of them after the ultra freeze. Tried to make Ibuki's grab ultra work forever in AE, but it's gimmicky at best. Wish they were true instant grabs like Zangief or T.hawks Ultras.