Red Arremer
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Grecco said:
Because they said it's a "popular fan request". Given the fact that I never saw anyone asking for it anywhere, I really doubt that it's a "popular fan request".
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Because they said it's a "popular fan request". Given the fact that I never saw anyone asking for it anywhere, I really doubt that it's a "popular fan request".
IntelliHeath
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Dirtbag said:
I am not sure how I felt about it but I think he could be very strong. He will be great for point character for me.
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Dirtbag said:
They did it because THEY wanted to include it in the game. If fan requests are so damn important where's my Megaman?
LegatoB said:
K, that's cool and all, but how about giving sane players the option of at least turning this mindless shit off. That way, everyone will be happy.
Depends on the boost. It could be a nice tool in the bag for him or just something that is way too situational to be useful.Dirtbag said:
Back to the mashing thing, the only reason why Capcom would benefit from having mashing in the game is that it just simply breaks more sticks/buttons/controllers so more money in the wallet of stick/controller makers and I am sure many of them put out MVC3 exclusive stick/controllers that give some money back into Capcom's pockets.
Long shot theory don't take it seriously.
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Devs can be fans.Becquerel said:
crimsonspider89
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So Nova's gravimetric pulses L,M become full sized beams with red health and his shield goes all Urien shield. Nice. Yeah, Nova looking good.
Also that chip damage.
Also that chip damage.
Kai Dracon
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Dahbomb said:
Game had a Megaverse character already, meanwhile Ace Attorney wasn't repped yet?
(Yes, I know Resident Ebil has a free pass to add as many characters as it likes.)
Dahbomb said:
Niitsuma finally figured out how to make him work. He was going to be in Tatsunoku v Capcom.
People i guess dont realize theres something more to this whole Megaman thing. Megaman Legends on 3DS was canceled and that has nothing to do with Marvel. You dont think "fans wanted that" as well?
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Khal_B said:
Magic?
ThatCrazyGuy
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Kaijima said:
Man, it wears out buttons and sticks faster. And makes my fingers hurt. Mashing full hand style in MVC2 arcade was a pain in the ass, haha.
Why is it needed? What does it add? Why not put just frames at certain points in supers to add a little bit extra damage?
They like the loud sound of clicky buttons? I don't get it.
I just think Megaman is being held back for a possible another iteration or DLC characters.
MM is too big of a character to just conveniently drop from the roster of a CAPCOM game. It's one of Capcom's oldest and most well known franchises and MM has been the poster boy for Capcom since the 80s. He's as important as Ryu IMO. And I am not even a MM fan.
MM is too big of a character to just conveniently drop from the roster of a CAPCOM game. It's one of Capcom's oldest and most well known franchises and MM has been the poster boy for Capcom since the 80s. He's as important as Ryu IMO. And I am not even a MM fan.
So Tron makes it over MM? What's the logic in that?
Kai Dracon
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Dahbomb said:
I was honestly under the impression that Tron had more fans in MVC2 than Mega Man. Saw a lot of people happy that she was in.
That and Tron's play style is unique. Mega Man is, for better or worse, another shooty / remote trap / selectable gadget character in a game that has a lot of swiss army zoners already. Doc Strange is just upping that count.
Seven Force
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Dahbomb said:
This. As long as it was Megaman EXE.
I've started playing the BN series lately and now accept EXE as my MM lord and savior
I beilieve this has to be the case.Dahbomb said:
As it stands Virgil/Stryder/Frank are all popular character and easily can be said that were equal tot hat of X and Gene as far as fan demand goes.
Capcom said the roster was built on several factors including fan demand, game play and others.
As it stands they can't really drop both X and Gene again given it has come down to the fact that they are the top requested characters, now not even having the sembalnce of challenge.
That said I have argued else were that no way do we see them as DLC, X and/or Gene will be Capcom's number 1 reveal for a third version with a popular Marvel character same way we got Stryder with UMVC3.
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X, Zero, Claw Sigma.
Kai Dracon
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Grecco said:
Aw shit here comes the Roll defense force.
darkblade77
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My take on Megaman and the Legends thing etc is...
-A Megaman is probably coming for UMvC3 as DLC.
-Capcom bigwigs honestly didn't like Legends 3's prospects at whatever stage it was at, esp. after Inafune left. This is because--
-Capcom has some major plans/new revision for the Megaman IP and isn't ready to talk about/reveal them yet. When they are, whatever new redesign of Megaman results from it will enter the UMvC3 roster.
Just a guess, but it makes sense given their recent behavior.
-A Megaman is probably coming for UMvC3 as DLC.
-Capcom bigwigs honestly didn't like Legends 3's prospects at whatever stage it was at, esp. after Inafune left. This is because--
-Capcom has some major plans/new revision for the Megaman IP and isn't ready to talk about/reveal them yet. When they are, whatever new redesign of Megaman results from it will enter the UMvC3 roster.
Just a guess, but it makes sense given their recent behavior.
You can't be serious if you think MM is like Strange. MMX has more potential than numerous other characters out there in terms of movelist and mechanics. Who's the other "swiss army selectable gadget user" in the game? I want a Dante version of a zoning character in MVC3. Fuckin 40+ specials.Kaijima said:
Tron has more fans than MM? Is this a joke? Tron gets played in MVC2 because she is much higher than MM in tiers list and her assist was broken (did as much damage as a hyper).
And yeah I would take Tron over Roll and Servbot.
Here's why Gene is popular at the polls:
1) Team Clover games generally get a lot of respect among gamers and Godhand gets a lot of "LTTP threads" around here even.
2) Demographic overlap just like with Devil May Cry. Fighting game fans also happen to play hard as hell Capcom action games like DMC/Godhand. Godhand has a lot of fighting game style mechanics/moves.
3) Gene has "Mahvel" flavor written all over him. Anyone who has played Godhand knows that if anything that was worthwhile that came out of the game... it was an awesome character who was made for MVC3. He's a no brainer for the inclusion.
4) Obscurity is not really an issue in polls. Firebrand, Amaterasu, Arthur, Spencer etc all made it into the roster despite bein part of poor selling games or just not being well known.
5) The cold hard truth about the Capcom side of the roster which most people will not tell you... most of the Capcom roster is pretty much filled up of the usual suspect/popular picks without overlapping franchises. MM is the obvious pick but after that the roster starts going down lesser known franchises/obscurity. The remaining popular characters are those that already have reps (MM, RE, DMC, SF, DS etc). At this point it's more important to pick someone fresh series who has the right appeal and fits well into the game. Gene is at the top of the Capcom list. If you look at the characters below Gene you will know why... it's Captain Commando (dead and old franchise), Jin Saotome (dead and old franchise), Juri/Bison (SF character, already has 4), Jon Talbain (DS character already has 3). The other popular pick as of late has been Ryu/Nina from BoF series, wouldn't mind either of those but Gene gets priority for Mahvel points.
Kai Dracon
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Grecco said:
If you think about it, it's kind of remarkable that the game has two Clover reps already with Joe and Ammy. Those are not mainstream Capcom games and would be considered "failures" by a lot of standards. From a "failed" studio.
If Gene did make it in, it'd be like the Clover Ghost Squad or something.
Oldschoolgamer
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He's not wrong though. In MvC2, she did have more fans, because she didn't suck ass like MM did. She was decent, had a pretty good assist, and had a gdlk taunt. It's been 3 versus games now (and warlords)and MM has been ass in two of them (not sure how to rate him in TvC).
I do agree that MegaMan X should have been in MvC3 from the jump tho...
I do agree that MegaMan X should have been in MvC3 from the jump tho...
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Dahbomb said:
1. Yes, Mega Man is like Strange in terms of a very generalized category. Same as with Arthur, Dormammu, etc. No, they don't play identically, far from it, and Mega Man would indeed invite a Dante-like redesign. But they still generally fall into the category of "zone / keepaway" characters. There's a lot of them in the ecosystem already, and it seems the nature of Wright was that he would have to be a general zoning character too.
That doesn't mean there's not a good reason to put Mega Man in, in and of himself, due to stated design potential. But his in-game "genre" has competition already.
2. I think you answered your own question. Tron was highly played in MVC2. In other words, she was popular, regardless of the reason. I'm not just talking about fannish popularity here, as in who likes which character more outside the context of Marvel. Tron was and is very popular as a Marvel character, regardless of her standing in the Mega Man fandom polls. Thus she made it in.
Capcom fought pretty hard to most of the highly picked MVC2 characters in the game, proof enough with Magneto, Storm, Sentinel, Tron, etc, all there.
But in the end, I think part of the problem that both Gene and Mega Man face, is that a full blown, deluxe MVC3 treatment of either of them will be expensive by design standards. Mega Man is a walking gun arsenal and Gene is 31 flavors of super punches.
In comparison, porting someone like Tron over seems fast and easy. Combine that with the character being popular in the last game, and Mega Man loses... for now.
Seems pretty obvious that if there's any DLC at all, he and Gene are on the short list to make it in. So in the long run, he'll be there. I'd be shocked if there wasn't such foretold and prophesied DLC and/or MVC3 Arcade Edition.
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Khal_B said:
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No there are several people who like .EXEReiGun said:
He even came in second in a big JPN poll (with X right behind him at 3rd). However X has been called for, so much so that Capcom even recognizes it as well as the fact he hasn't had a cross over apperance yet so alot of people even if he isn't their favorite want to see him make it in.
That's a VERY BROAD generalization. If that were the case you could put the entire roster into 4 or 5 types. I think there are more rushdown characters than zoning specialists in MVC3. I mean sure UMVC3 is adding more specialist zoners than specialist rushdown but overall there are just more tri-dashers and teleporters/dashers with swords/claws.
It's like saying Zero doesn't deserve a roster presence because there are teleporters with swords and pixie characters in the game.
Also for the record, I don't really care which MM makes it in. EXE, Classic, X even fucking Starforce... I will take my Blue Bomber please.
Red Arremer
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Khal_B said:
If there IS another iteration. Who knows.
ShockingAlberto
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I would personally prefer it if they kept Tron, but removed all of Tony's flirting with her.
Because ew.
Because ew.
Every GAF thread related to MVC has had long ended discussions on MM. We are now back into the No News -> Roster discussion -> Megaman cycle again.
Can't wait for 8 more months of this. YAY!
I don't know if you guys were present but every clue that Lupinko put out... some MM fan would come in and twist it to be confirmed for Megaman. "OMFG Mighty Max video linked.... MM = Mighty Max = MM = Megaman CONFIRMED!!!"
Can't wait for 8 more months of this. YAY!
EXE. Starforce only popped up from the Lupinko clues pertaining to wizards/goo that people (mostly MM fans) interpreted as some long shot clue to MM Starforce.
I don't know if you guys were present but every clue that Lupinko put out... some MM fan would come in and twist it to be confirmed for Megaman. "OMFG Mighty Max video linked.... MM = Mighty Max = MM = Megaman CONFIRMED!!!"
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Dahbomb said:
The entire game does come down to 4 - 6 archetypes, with many important sub-types within them, I think. Hey, and just to make sure we do keep blaming Capcom for something, they already had Zero mostly designed and animated for TVC so Mega Man lost out to LOL PORT.