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UMVC3: Phoenix Wright and Nova Revealed!
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corporate cheerleader
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It's funny how Marvel is really strict with Capcom, but has no problems with Sega crapping all over their material.
DR2K said:
I'm curious WTF Stan Lee and the rest of the Marvel goons think Capcom will do with these characters? Like there must be some guy at Marvel HQ going, "OMG I'VE SEEN BIBLE BLACK AND THERE'S NO WAY I'M PUTTING CYCLOPS IN THE HANDS OF THESE JAPANESE PERVERTS. NO WAY IS HE GOING TO RAPE BEAM PENIS WOMEN!"
Capcom has done every character they've ever let them use insane justice and also given them more exposure. The only one from MvC2/3 that I feel was lacking flair is Nova who is more ordinary guy than Peter Parker before the spider bite.
voodoopanda
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Maybe Capcom really wanted Marrow in the game and Marvel is doing us all a favor. I mean, Capcom did beg for Shuma Gorath, not Cyclops or Gambit or anybody like that.
echoshifting
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So when do we start putting pressure on Marvel to get these characters in the game? I get it for some of 'em - Venom, Colossus, and Juggernaut would all need to be much different characters. War Machine and Bone Claw aren't really sensible additions. Cable is in the middle of a resurrection...though in my opinion that would actually make him a good candidate. Blackheart isn't really a relevant figure these days. Marrow, Sabretooth, Silver Samurai and Omega Red are all out, too.
But Cyclops, Psylocke, Gambit, Rogue, and Iceman are in pretty much the same state in the comics that they were when MvC2 was out...same powers, still with the X-Men, not dead, etc. Spiral could work too, though I'm not sure anyone is clamoring for her. I recognize those are all X-Men characters, so I guess they just want less emphasis on that branch...? Why would they do that when they have such a big event going on in the comics right now? And it doesn't explain Thanos, who would be a GREAT fit with Nova and Rocket Raccoon now in the game. Makes no sense to me. What gives, Marvel?
So it really is all about the X-Men. WTF?? Marvel doesn't want X-Men in this game?
But Cyclops, Psylocke, Gambit, Rogue, and Iceman are in pretty much the same state in the comics that they were when MvC2 was out...same powers, still with the X-Men, not dead, etc. Spiral could work too, though I'm not sure anyone is clamoring for her. I recognize those are all X-Men characters, so I guess they just want less emphasis on that branch...? Why would they do that when they have such a big event going on in the comics right now? And it doesn't explain Thanos, who would be a GREAT fit with Nova and Rocket Raccoon now in the game. Makes no sense to me. What gives, Marvel?
DR2K said:
So it really is all about the X-Men. WTF?? Marvel doesn't want X-Men in this game?
Tizoc
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Fuck yeah, Black Bolt, been wanting him since the game was announced XDzoner said:
http://snarkfree.blogspot.com/2006/05/black-bolt-king-of-kickass-or-black.html
SolarKnight
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echoshifting said:
It's probably just because Marvel thinks there are more than enough X-Men in the game and that other characters they want to be represented should be in the game rather than them.
Hot Coldman
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General Shank-a-snatch said:
It's different. Sega are creating lunchboxes- merchandise for the films. It doesn't have to be high-quality, it's just supposed to get exposure and capitalise in pre-existing exposure.
Capcom are creating something that will hopefully carry some legacy, a piece of entertainment in its own right, something that stands on its own. Marvel need to make sure the quality is there.
echoshifting said:
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This isn't even the same fucking reality/universe/megaverse/earth92038402 or w/e the comics even take place in. Just let the shit rock and know it's a FUCKING VIDEO GAME. No one except the deepest of mouth breathing basement trolls with neck beards connecting to their pubes would even concern themselves with how the fuck Marvel vs Capcom 3 marvel characters fit into the mythos/history of their comic counterpart.
If this is seriously the thought process' going through Marvel guys in charge of green passes to who gets in or not, then that place needs to fire some shit heads. :/
Red Arremer
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I'm actually very pleased about Marvel dictating the character roster. I want to play MARVEL vs Capcom, not X-Men vs. Capcom. Marvel is so much more than 90s cartoons.
Banana Kid
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Marvel wants to promote the characters that are popular right now. People with movies, people with ongoings, and a few fan favorites.zlatko said:
It's the same thing they did in Marvel vs. Capcom 2, but that was the 90's and things have changed. The X-Men were huge back then. They're not as big anymore. There's going to be less emphasis on them.
RobotRocker
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Banana Kid said:
I don't think Marvel had any say in MvC2. From what has been talked about back then, Marvel just signed off the licence and then let Capcom go hog wild with characters (Which explained Shuma). Now Marvel has a games division and influence in the development process, they can suggest characters and ask them not to use certain characters. So a completely different environment.
Though quite frankly, they can leave the old characters in the past. The new characters have been much more interesting and fun and I'd rather see Capcom's takes on new characters than going back to Venom or Cable.
Banana Kid
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Yeah, you're probably right. They care a lot more now.RobotRocker said:
But if it keeps characters like Marrow and Spiral from coming back, then I'm all for whatever they're doing now.
SolarKnight
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Banana Kid said:
X-men ARE popular, there's a reason it's the series with most characters on the Marvel side. The difference is that now they don't have 2 entire games to copy-paste characters from.
Banana Kid
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They're absolutely still popular, but in the 90's they were the biggest thing Marvel had going for them.SolarKnight said:
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What do you know. Wolverine still beasting on stream.
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Hulk:Why suit man object so much? Hulk supposed to be angry one!
Maya blocked Fist of Fury and a DHC into Gamma Crush. I could have sworn I saw Sent kick her off screen yesterday.
Maya blocked Fist of Fury and a DHC into Gamma Crush. I could have sworn I saw Sent kick her off screen yesterday.
"Why suit man OBJECT so much? Hulk suppose to be Angry one!"
It's weird to hear Hulk say so much, especially voiced! lol.
I would have loved to see Steel Samurai appear... with Silver Samurai elemental swords. For no reason. Just because it'd be cool, lol.
Hmmm, I checked and preview-checked before I posted and everything... and STILL beaten on the quote, lol.
It's weird to hear Hulk say so much, especially voiced! lol.
I would have loved to see Steel Samurai appear... with Silver Samurai elemental swords. For no reason. Just because it'd be cool, lol.
Hmmm, I checked and preview-checked before I posted and everything... and STILL beaten on the quote, lol.
Slamtastic
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Yes. We would. Glad to see we're on the same page.JazzmanZ said:
echoshifting
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zlatko said:
You misunderstand. What I'm saying is I can kinda see why some characters would get a 'no' from Marvel; characters like Omega Red or Marrow who are dead and/or long abandoned make no sense from a business perspective. I don't really give a shit about the universe either, but Marvel has incentive to promote central characters in their universe right now, so some of their choices are harder to justify. Cyclops is the leader of the X-Men, I don't understand why they wouldn't want to promote him right now. I imagine if people who don't read comics saw Colossus' current appearance and power set they'd pick up a comic to find out what's going on. Why these characters are sitting out for Rocket Raccoon, I have no idea.
For that matter, I don't understand why Black Widow isn't among the new recruits. I agree that the Avengers are more popular than the X-Men right now, there isn't a single female character in Ultimate, and she's in the forthcoming movie. An argument could be made that her power set just isn't exciting enough...but the Marvel side of this roster has been heavily criticized for good reason, I think. Now, these choices have been second-guessed to death and that's something I'm not really interested in doing. It's just frustrating to hear that Marvel is directly responsible for what we ended up with, given what we ended up with.
Cyclops has always been in a spot of power amonst the X Men, and in general most casual fans would say that he did lead the X Men during the 90's even with Xavier around.echoshifting said:
Plus you got stuff with Schism going on so why pimp Cyclops over a new character when the only thing that is different is his mindset has more Magneto now which might not even come across in a game like this?
DR2K said:
As someone who actually reads comics, I don't give a shit. I want characters that are relevant know and I have affection for. I could not care less for Silver Samurai for example. The marvel side right now is a pretty good representation of what is relevant in the Marvel Universe right now, has been for a while and will probably continue to be for a while. If I had to choose a few more characters that are still pretty big and are missing it would be: Daredevil, Punisher, Ms. Marvel and the current Venom who is Flash Thompson. I might give you Cyclops because he is kinda important together with Wolverine because of the whole Schism thing that is going on with X-Men.
1. Anyone who has touched the cosmic Marvel comics in the last five years knows why Rocket Raccoon is in this game.echoshifting said:
2. I'm super happy with what we ended up with. They went with characters that have had damned awesome comic runs in the last few years. Nova, Rocket, and Iron Fist are all "second tier" characters with a lot of recent top tier quality comics.
I'm glad we didn't just get the same old shit in this game.
Sucks for fans of terrible nineties comics, I guess, but whatever.
Also I would not trade any of the new revealed Marvel characters for anybody that has been mentioned. Any replacement characters I've heard of have been terrible and boring ideas. The only one I MIGHT replace would be Hawkeye, and it damn sure wouldn't be for Gambit or Venom or anyone like that.
Cyclops is a character I like, but I don't miss him in this. I'd rather see somebody more interesting, like Black Panther or something.
Cyclops is a character I like, but I don't miss him in this. I'd rather see somebody more interesting, like Black Panther or something.
Banana Kid
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In this game you want characters to have a varied moveset and a bunch of different tricks.
Cyclops can only really do optic blasts, so unless they Captain Commando'd him up and gave him a bunch of X-Men assists, he'd only have beams to work with. I love Cyclops but I don't think he's a good fit.
Cyclops can only really do optic blasts, so unless they Captain Commando'd him up and gave him a bunch of X-Men assists, he'd only have beams to work with. I love Cyclops but I don't think he's a good fit.
SEGAmaniaco
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gem-like mode again?
but now its cards
via DLC?
parry FTW
but now its cards
via DLC?
parry FTW
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enzo_gt said:
It really is, even with his nerfs.
sixteen-bit
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As they get closer to the finals, it's only natural to see the better characters make it that far.rexor0717 said:
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Why don't they adjust the coloring of X Factor for different players? It's ridiculously difficult to differentiate between two different brightly glowing red characters...
djplaeskool
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lol
Maya > Doom
Maya > Doom