UMVC3: Phoenix Wright and Nova Revealed!
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SolarKnight
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sephi22 said:
Holy shit how didn't I notice that
Face it Tiger..
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LeMaximilian said:
*Spindashing desu rose pettle kawaii gif*
LeMaximilian
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SolarKnight said:Holy shit how didn't I notice that
It's the little things I try to sneak in :>
Magneto will still be a force to be reckoned with in ultimate. He has tools doom does not, like a much better more generally useful lvl3 (hell, all of his hypers are good). Who knows how it will turn out.Tobe1 said:
Doom is and always has been way more swag than magneto. Max only has one tri-dashing best friend, and we know who he chose!
This is the truth and why I have a problem with Doom in UMVC3 (and some what C Viper).Caj814 said:
Doom killed characters in vanilla without even using DHC glitch. He was one of the VERY few characters from vanilla who is left unaffected by the new HSD system and hence since he is "more of the same" it's a buff. Also didn't know about the j.H having more hit stun, enough to get a combo off of it.
I pretty much understand most of the She Hulk changes now. They want you to use her Runner stance cancel moves more than just herp derp slide + j.H all day. The 3 point super armor on her Runner stance move is HUGE, you can clock someone from mid screen with the clothesline if they are just mashing. The faster run cancel makes it that you can use Torpedo to get in and set up a wall bounce combo. Of course you won't get the full damage from the hyper because they don't really want you to be doing TODs with She Hulk (basically BnB from She Hulk into a DHC kills characters if you have seen Combofiend at work) but instead you will be going for resets and stuff which is what the game has more or less turned into (more resets less TODs... at least for most of the cast).
She Hulk is still High tier in the game folks... you will just have to make some adjustments to her play and use her buffed moves more often to get in plus use different combos.
Dem Dorm buffs... nice. Too bad Max didn't check if cr.M has less hit stun or not. WTF @ 2 flame carpets at once... BUFF!!!!
Magneto is still Swagneto. Still can combo after LVL3 like a BOSS.
No more 3 hit armor on Hulk st.H? Neither confirmed nor de-confirmed strange. The charge move of Hulk gives him a great element of mind game during block strings. L, M, charge M see opponents reaction... if they attempt a button let go of punch and absorb hits with super armor, if they keep block go for grab if they jump anti-air grab.
I definitely knew that there were stuff in the game that the changelog didn't mention. Props to Max for sneaking them in.
Lol WHAT? Don't change him for Doom then unless of course you are one of THOSE people. There isn't a huge difference between Doom and Magneto, Magneto has better hypers over all more utility in zoning (thanks to the positioning moves), slide move, orthodox movement and still a better throw game. Doom has dive kick, more health, unorthodox movement and overall better assists.Tobe1 said:Magneto nerfs just make my fever worse, fammit i dont want to change him for doom.
Mr Touchdown
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"Dorm's"Zissou said:
And to answer, it's becaue it was an awesome anti-air when you were stuck in the corner in the last game and you could confirm it all day into his S or Dark Matter.
Dorm not Doom.Zissou said:
It matters because it's his go to anti-air move that he can hit confirm into launcher easily. The hit stun change meant that he would have to do the launcher really early for the combo. Before he could just get the hit and even delay the launcher for a combo.
Not too big of a nerf/change but something that still should be addressed if it exists.
SolarKnight
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Wouldnt being able to cancel into cH help? Or would it just not hit/be unsafe?
GotchaForce
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Dat S footdive bounce! Dat double flame carpet!
Mr Touchdown
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c.H does something weird to airborne opponents like knocking them away and hits really low if I remember correctly (haven't played Dorm in so long ;_SolarKnight said:
. c.M was safe as hell too, because the big ass hitbox pushed the opponent a fair bit away - but if it hit, they were dead smack bang in front of you.I abused the hell out of c.M in my early Dorm days
Mr Touchdown
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Doctor Doom planned ahead obviously. No one can beat the Doctor if he plans properly.Kimosabae said:
Mr Touchdown
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Tobe1 said:
All of the above.Zissou said:
Dr. Doom - The Ultimate Conniving Sonovabitch
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She Hulk is still looking pretty good right now. She plays a little less like a pixie and more like a heavy character. I also like the fact that she is a heavier. It is a nice buff in the same way that Iron Man has benefited from being heavier. It makes the opponent have to settle for She Hulk specific combos which always makes them easier to drop.
Dormammu got pretty much everything he needed to be a force in UMvC3 too. LOL @ the Magneto dissapointment when the guy can still convert a single touch midscreen into a corner combo for 600k+ damage haha.
Someone needs to cry for Capcom. Not trying to piss you off here.
All the tier whores are gonna abuse the shit out of him now...
Dormammu got pretty much everything he needed to be a force in UMvC3 too. LOL @ the Magneto dissapointment when the guy can still convert a single touch midscreen into a corner combo for 600k+ damage haha.
Because salt.Kimosabae said:
Someone needs to cry for Capcom. Not trying to piss you off here.
This is pretty cool. I'm looking at Doom and smh'ing since I know that there will be a flood of biblical proportions come launch.LeMaximilian said:
All the tier whores are gonna abuse the shit out of him now...
Mr Touchdown
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At least Air-Dashing gets blown up free to Spell of Vishanti and Golden Arrow.
devastatorprime
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http://translate.google.com/transla...CjL&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns
Possible Frank West and Rocket Raccoon reveals on the the 30th?
dat new Shinkiro art.
Possible Frank West and Rocket Raccoon reveals on the the 30th?
dat new Shinkiro art.
Mr Touchdown
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Sexydevastatorprime said:
Looks like Frank's been heavily affected by covering wars:
"I've seen things man..."
RobotRocker
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devastatorprime said:
30th would be a bit weird since it's a Sunday and all the major Western sites wouldn't be putting up news at that time. Probably sometime between today and Friday for the videos (As with the rest of the reveals) and some sort of conference in Japan on Sunday for the launch of the game.
Doom has an unorthodox mobility style? He can dash cancel his normals but not the other way around. Also prep yourself for some Dante nerfs too if you play him as well.Kimosabae said:
It's both a buff and a nerf. While particular combos will drop on Iron Man, some combos are only possible on Iron Man like a particular 700-800K Iron Man exclusive Jill combo.
I was the one who said that. I also said Iron Man is the new Iron Man. Although there isn't a huge gap between Magneto and Doom because Magneto is still insanely strong just not extremely difficult to block now. Magneto's nerfs were extremely just, no character deserves to be a monster at both rushdown and zoning.
Also Doom and Magneto are probably the same overall speed now. Magneto before was much faster than Doom. I know it looks as if Doom is like a metric ton faster than Magneto but it really isn't, everyone is just so used to light speed Magneto that when he is toned down to slightly faster than vanilla Doom he looks like he is running on molasses.
I updated the changelog with some of the minor discoveries in Max's video. Stuff like increased hit stun on Doom's j.H, 3 hits of super armor on She Hulk's Chariot and 2 flame carpets at once.
Red Arremer
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Zissou said:
Exactly.
Mr Touchdown
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So Frank West and Rocket Racoon... Reckon they'll be up soon? Time frame seems to fit.
Red Arremer
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Phoenix Wright has his second theme on the page now:
http://capcom.co.jp/mvsc3/character_naruhodo.html
http://capcom.co.jp/mvsc3/character_naruhodo.html
IntelliHeath
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Becquerel said:
WOW, I thought of that when I saw how crazy doctor doom is in UMVC3 for first time.
devastatorprime said:
It just confirm that we are getting reveal this week. CAN'T WAIT!
Red Arremer
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So it's LITERALLY "End of October, Beginning of November". lmao.
Though they might release the reveal trailers earlier.
Though they might release the reveal trailers earlier.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Grrrrrr
IntelliHeath
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Actually I think we will get it early than Sunday. Imo
Just saw Max's Change log video.
She-Hulk is not definite same Jennifer Walters that I used to main. I don't know what to say but I can say this that we will have to change our habits and play her very different. I am not even sure that she will be good as she was in MVC3. I really hope that she is playable and viable in tournament but few pro already dropped her so that is not good thing to heard about.
People are so wrong about Dr. Doom being Top Tier. He isn't.
Just saw Max's Change log video.
She-Hulk is not definite same Jennifer Walters that I used to main. I don't know what to say but I can say this that we will have to change our habits and play her very different. I am not even sure that she will be good as she was in MVC3. I really hope that she is playable and viable in tournament but few pro already dropped her so that is not good thing to heard about.
People are so wrong about Dr. Doom being Top Tier. He isn't.
HE IS IN HIS OWN TIER! DOOM TIER!
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One thing about Doom that makes him strong that I never see anyone use is his dash cancellable on block command launcher. 2Lxx6H9(AA) is such a stupid good hit confirm. Even Clockwork doesn't know about it, he said that Doom doesn't have a good confirm in his tutorial.Dahbomb said:
Doom's dashes were always faster than Magneto's though, and he can execute them much lower. Sure, you have to tridash instead of wavedash, but it's not much of a difference, expecially if you're a madman and super jump up and normal cancel down every one.
SolarKnight
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...are you sure you're not thinking of cM? I don't think I've seen that happen before o__O
IntelliHeath
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HYPE TRAIN CHUGGING!
ALLBOARD FOR FRANK "I've covered wars you know" WEST and ROCKET FRIGGIN RACCOON REVEAL!
At least, Max will help us to keep it chugging with gas of Phoenix Wright Assist me video!
Edited: Is c.M for Dorm nerfed? I am sick of my friends spamming that when I was in air.
ALLBOARD FOR FRANK "I've covered wars you know" WEST and ROCKET FRIGGIN RACCOON REVEAL!
At least, Max will help us to keep it chugging with gas of Phoenix Wright Assist me video!
Edited: Is c.M for Dorm nerfed? I am sick of my friends spamming that when I was in air.
That sounds like his cr.M.GuardianE said:
I am aboard for Frank West's god tier camera power up. RR could be interesting too who knows.
It's not listed in the changelog but in the builds it had less hit stun (like opponents would pop out earlier before a launcher). Cause one of the general HSD changes made to the game or could be one of the various things they didn't mention in the changelog like faster Dorm specials and 2 Flame carpets at once.