UMVC3: Phoenix Wright and Nova Revealed!

SolarKnight said:
...are you sure you're not thinking of cM? I don't think I've seen that happen before o__O

I didn't really explain it right. Basically, it's a situation where if you're sitting next to a flame carpet, you're just out of range of the flames, so it doesn't put you in blockstun, but upon standing your hurtbox changes, I guess, and it hits you low.

It's probably character specific, but I don't think I'm crazy. Am I crazy? I haven't actually tested it out, I just felt like it has happened a few times.
 
The tiniest spark of hype has just appeared within me for Frank now that I'm actually making progress in Dead Rising. I'm doing my best to nurture and guard it until Friday.

Maybe it'll turn into a roaring fire come launch? I hope so. LL.ND picking him up and wrecking shit would be a big help.
 
Actually that HAS happened to me on occasion. Like you would have a weird crouching stare down with Dorm in between his Flame Carpet and when you stand up you get hit by Flame Carpet. I think Karst can explain this it probably does have to do with different hit boxes on standing and crouching states.
 
SolarPowered said:
The tiniest spark of hype has just appeared within me for Frank now that I'm actually making progress in Dead Rising. I'm doing my best to nurture and guard it until Friday.

Maybe it'll turn into a roaring fire come launch? I hope so. LL.ND picking him up and wrecking shit would be a big help.

You also can watch a funny Let's Play with TotalBiscuit and Jesse Cox.
This really got my Frank West fire going bigger cause it's hilarious. :D
 
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Vergil next ep means Nova isn't getting a cosplay. Disappointed at that. Ultra David Phoenix Wright was awesome though.
 
P.Wright just looks like too much work to me.

Iron Fist though mmm soooo good. Can't wait to rock him when the game releases. :)
 
God's Beard said:
Whoa, Dragon Kick assist is invincible?
I know right? My ears went up when I heard that. And I figured they would make the Palm strike move has some i-frames because it has such low range.

Which makes me think that the on point version should have some i-frames as well... which means that Iron Fist effectively has at least one way to get in on zoning.

Vergil confirmed on next Max video.... MY DICK IS HARD!!!! I pretty much knew there would be a Vergil cosplayer because there are so many of them out there.
 
Infinitely better than the one with Hawkye front and center.
Hawkeye isn't front and center, Ghost Rider is. Both are better than Frank West.

Shot fired, come at me bro, what you gonna do now son? etc.

Captain America is going to own Freenix Wright for FREE-dom.
 
Ah dammit, was expecting Nova. All the other pairs were the ones Capcom made so I didn't expect Iron Fist today.
 
Man Max missed out on a lot of crucial stuff on Iron Fist that I hoped he would fill us on.

Like the block damage from the rekkas and how they are impacted with if you have Red or Green chi.

How the Blue chi and Green chi work. Like with Blue chi does Iron Fist just have better overall stamina and can he absorb projectiles (we saw this in a video) and if so how much? Does Green chi give more meter on both hit and block or does it even give meter on like whiffed rekkas?

What about his jump cancelable moves and his QCF+H cross up?

And can Iron Fist go from a hard knock down into OTG Axe kick, Up kicks, wall bounce for an extended rekka combo?
 
Dahbomb said:
Man Max missed out on a lot of crucial stuff on Iron Fist that I hoped he would fill us on.

Like the block damage from the rekkas and how they are impacted with if you have Red or Green chi.

How the Blue chi and Green chi work. Like with Blue chi does Iron Fist just have better overall stamina and can he absorb projectiles (we saw this in a video) and if so how much? Does Green chi give more meter on both hit and block or does it even give meter on like whiffed rekkas?

What about his jump cancelable moves and his QCF+H cross up?

And can Iron Fist go from a hard knock down into OTG Axe kick, Up kicks, wall bounce for an extended rekka combo?
Yeah, I'm very curious about how the blue and green Chi work. He may still be used, but I don't know nearly enough to make an informed decision about him.
Dahbomb said:
Shot fired, come at me bro, what you gonna do now son? etc.
Not nearly hyped enough to provide an adequate comeback lol.
Dahbomb said:
Which makes me think that the on point version should have some i-frames as well... which means that Iron Fist effectively has at least one way to get in on zoning.
This is what I suspected from day one, but I kept it to myself.
 
A Human Becoming said:
Seeing how boring Nova looks I hope he's the last of the new fighters Max covers.

SRK seems to be pretty hyped on him. 1200 posts in his dedicated topic compared to 309 for Firebrand and 760 for Nemesis, who were revealed much earlier.
 
The Nova thread is big for several reasons.

1-He looks bad ass
2-He has all the tools of a high(or above) tier character
3-He is very cooke cutter and that will attract negative and positive attention in a game that revolves around fanservice(tons of missing Marvel characters in the eyes of fans)
4-Characters like Nemesis and Firebrand are a little harder to gauge so they aren't as popular
5-He is bad ass

I don't give a damn about all of that nonsense since I needed someone that doesn't piss me off and he has nearly every tool(except a beam assist) I'm looking for in a fighter.
Becquerel said:
I don't understand why people keep saying Nova looks boring. What would he need to have to make him not look boring?
A moveset that doesn't look copied and pasted. He is just a conventional character in the eyes of most people.

This might've been okay in Pringles edition after most major fan requests are settled, but there are still some gaping holes in the cast and people can get pissed easily when an unexpected character doesn't look unique.
 
Nils said:
SRK seems to be pretty hyped on him. 1200 posts in his dedicated topic compared to 309 for Firebrand and 760 for Nemesis, who were revealed much earlier.

Not enough Nova hype round here.

Cosmic Picture time

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SolarPowered said:
A moveset that doesn't look copied and pasted. He is just a conventional character in the eyes of most people.

There's only so much you can do with a character whose nickname is "The Human Rocket". I think they did a splendid job.
 
Becquerel said:
I don't understand why people keep saying Nova looks boring. What would he need to have to make him not look boring?
A visual gimmick. The people who care about Nova see what he brings with the red health burning.

I was meh on him for the first 10 minutes until I saw the crossup kick centurion art and the l red health gimmick.

Other than that, some more imaginative hypers for a fucking intergalactic hero would be nice. The directable one is the only one that looks cool, the other two look awkward.
 
Nova's Hypers Look boring and uncreative. I expected better.

but his specials, normals overall style look pretty bad ass.

my crit at Nova was never about gameplay
 
Yea, but most of the moveset of, say, Firebrand isn't specifically imaginative either. Firebrand just swoops around and spits fire.
Dr. Strange's normals look really conventional too, they could've done more with those, too - and his specials aren't really that exciting in terms of visuals, they're just colorful fireballs.
Hell, Phoenix Wright's moveset is very unimaginative as well. He throws paper, or simply walks forward with his specials. Yet he is hyped up like nothing else.
And let's not even start on fucking Strider, Vergil, Iron Fist, Hawkeye or Ghost Rider.

EVERY character has generic boring moves and hypers.

I know there's mechanics behind them, and character popularity, but honestly, this "Nova is boring" talk is getting on my nerves. He even has a special mechanic behind him, unlike Strider or Firebrand or Nemesis. Yet I hear shit about him being the "most boring" new character or some such.
 
Becquerel said:
Yea, but most of the moveset of, say, Firebrand isn't specifically imaginative either. Firebrand just swoops around and spits fire.
Dr. Strange's normals look really conventional too, they could've done more with those, too - and his specials aren't really that exciting in terms of visuals, they're just colorful fireballs.
Hell, Phoenix Wright's moveset is very unimaginative as well. He throws paper, or simply walks forward with his specials. Yet he is hyped up like nothing else.
And let's not even start on fucking Strider, Vergil, Iron Fist, Hawkeye or Ghost Rider.


EVERY character has generic boring moves and hypers.

I know there's mechanics behind them, and character popularity, but honestly, this "Nova is boring" talk is getting on my nerves. He even has a special mechanic behind him, unlike Strider or Firebrand or Nemesis. Yet I hear shit about him being the "most boring" new character or some such.
Que?
 
Tiger uppercut said:
Hell I & or anybody who read Annihilation/Conquest or his trade could've a much better job of creating a moveset for Nova.

sheer laziness.

I read pretty much all of Nova's comics, including those pre-dating the Annihilation series. I am completely fine with how he turned out. I don't understand some of the things (mostly the red life-mechanic), but honestly, he's good. I see no reason to make him any different than he is.
 
~Devil Trigger~ said:

What's hard to understand?
Phoenix Wright doesn't even fight.
Have you seen Dr. Strange's normals? Remember how people cried out Magneto clone when they saw them cause they looked so familiar? His specials are just colorful fireballs.
What is unique about Firebrand's moves? Can you tell me? It's claw slashes and fireballs. We already have 5 characters that do slashing with claws.
Hawkeye? Come on, he just shoots arrows. Nothing unique about that.
Vergil - just another sword user, please. Strider, same deal.
Iron Fist? Generic Kung Fu character. What's creative about his moves? He punches and kicks. Wow.
Ghost Rider? He uses a whip, oh and look at that, fire. How imaginative, really.

Can we now move on and stop calling Nova's moves generic and unimaginative? Thank you.

And don't come up with any special mechanics, because Nova is called uninspired because of his moveset.
 
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