Red Arremer
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I missed all the hype. 
Sometimes I hate having to DM for DnD. I drew maps and readied encounters. D:
Sometimes I hate having to DM for DnD. I drew maps and readied encounters. D:
UMVC3: Phoenix Wright and Nova Revealed!
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~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
wats going here?
where's the cosmic rat?
where's the cosmic rat?
Infinite Justice
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AzureJericho said:
Yea when max talked about the damage and showed stuff he could do WITHOUT X-FACTOR i was like FUCKKKKKKKKK
Red Arremer
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Firebrand looks so silly and cute when on the stand.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Grecco said:
Apparently not.
scytheavatar
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AzureJericho said:
Vergil's lvl 3 does the exact same damage, and the mashable lvl 3s all seem to do a ton of damage when mashed, I suspect probably not that much less than Wright's lvl 3.
Not really. I mean yeah it's a gimmick like Phoenix but it's a different gimmick and no where near as powerful.Jintor said:
Phoenix: Play game normally, don't use any meter and you are pretty much guaranteed to get 5 bars from getting your characters killed. If Phoenix gets snapped in just buy time with salty balls and tag out (although this part is getting nerfed hard). DP is on Phoenix until she dies and her health drain is negated by XF.
Wright: Get 3 good evidence and then land a hit on the opponent. The first part isn't even the hard part... it's the second one. Wright has low mobility and no mix ups meaning this is the real challenge to get Turnabout stance. Say you get lucky and land a hit, well now the opponent can run away until you stance timer runs out. And when it runs out it's back to the drawing board of collecting evidence and landing a hit.
On a Phoenix team you don't really need characters who support Phoenix well, just 2 characters who go really well together and can be effective without meter. On a Wright team, you need 2 character who can support Wright with the proper assists so he can get started or he's pretty much free to rushdown.
That's what I think on the matter. It's not as easy as getting 3 evidences and you are good to go. Already I see people getting 3 evidence and then standing there wondering how they are going to land a hit. Then they start jump forward and doing Objection all obvious like. I saw someone tag out Wright when he had the 3 evidences and then activate Turnabout via TAC... which IMO is an even worse strategy because you are relying on a TAC to activate the gimmick (which can be countered and in UMVC3 it can be punished).
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2&2 said:
I think it's because it fits the character. If they had given someone like Wesker a random core mechanic there would have been a lot more whining.
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Awww shitNemesis556 said:
Can't wait to see Rocket.
"God's Beard!"
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Dude, game's not even out, people are just coming up with strategies on their feet. I mean, you could tag him out, then just DHC in to the Maya super and slam objection then.Dahbomb said:
Gunstarheroes
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enzo_gt said:
Other capcom e-mails are popping up now, THIS SHIT IS LEGIT!
Banana Kid
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MY BODY IS READYNemesis556 said:
Infinite Justice
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2&2 said:
I don't think they would mind since that's one of the things that stops him from being straight up broken.
Plus it makes sense given the character.
Face it Tiger..
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oh yah!
Hoping for some Hyperrocket viper beams.
Hoping for some Hyper
SolarKnight
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Nemesis556 said:
Ha! I knew it!
...I just hope it's before I leave for the tourney, I want to se them as soon as they're out D:
God's Beard said:
Yeah, that's probably going to be the easiest way to do it.
Infinite Justice said:
That and good evidence seems to appear so often that it doesn't really matter much.
Nils said:
True. Still, if I was in a tourney I don't know if I'd leave any of my moves being "successful" up to chance, especially considering how good those players can be at rushdown and one hit leading to huge combos in this game. It'll be interesting to see how much he's used.
"God's Beard!"
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Can you tag out during the Maya hyper?
It's fast, the resulting abilities are pretty consistent with each other, and it fits his character. It's not that different from just having a move that needs stocks like MODOK.2&2 said:
Spirit of Jazz
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I think turnabout's much more like Hakan's oil than Phoenix mode. The character's terrible until the modes active and even then despite getting some perks that are really nice on paper (damage output and much better hitboxes in Pheonix) they don't compensate for the characters weaknesses in the game (His ass mobility and lack of mix-ups).
Red Arremer
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OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD
As I said before I think tagging out is the best option ATM, so you don't have a gimmick to rely on first and foremost, and you have your tagged in character there to build meter for you. Then, once Phoenix is in and your first character is dead, he still has an assist to get in and help him with such to try and land a hit. The TAC is still an option, and I think a vert good one as long as it's used in moderation... Just like how you should use TACs anyways, especially to keep unpredictable.
I don't mind people coming up with strategies, in fact I have a PW strategy of my own too. But I have mostly seen gimmicks and that "DHC into Maya" then use Objection... that's gimmicky to me too.God's Beard said:
Tag out means that you are risking getting hit to activate the Turnabout (tags don't hit overhead anymore according to Seth). 2 meters used to DHC activate Objection = less meter for LVL3. What if your other character gets killed in the process? Wright has to eat a mix up when he comes in which in the air he has little ways of escape.
At this point, I find it my more efficient to just sit with the Evidence and not do anything stupid like trying to jump in with H's or do raw tag outs. Abuse the power of the projectiles and play super lame with Wright while using an assist like Hidden Missiles or Daggers of Denak. You can probably frustrate the opponent into a hit especially with the "Multilock" evidence of Wright (which is also a gamble if you get it or not but if you get it, it's a great insurance against teleporters).
If you play Wright you are doing it at your own risk. You accept the consequences and the work that comes with playing the character.
I am not a fan of this random aspect of Wright at all. Neither am I fan of Hsien Ko's random item toss either. For Wright it's more important and it's not as simple as just good/bad evidence. You get different types of projectiles like the multilock projectile or the 3 knife projectiles which are excellent but some of his others one aren't like that straight fireball one. It's going to hold him back in high pressure situations. People aren't complaining about it because Wright isn't likely to be a major threat at tournaments ie he isn't a top tier contender at the moment.
~Devil Trigger~
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dats a good question, hell can you tag out with Maya Shield out lol?God's Beard said:
Red Arremer
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Grecco said:Time for a new avatar
Only after I see the videos.
Also, you guys have to link the videos and the new topic in the thread here - I always keep a tab with it open, but I can't be bothered to refresh the Games section cause it's HUEG LIEK AN XBOX LAWL.
"God's Beard!"
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Who said anything about random tags? And it's not like that would be the only setup, but you can't deny that it has its uses.Dahbomb said:
Hsien Ko's is bad. Wright's isn't that big of a deal though. He gets plenty of opportunity to set it up.
Red Arremer
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Nemesis556 said:
I'm not doubting you. I'll just keep being DENIED aka cockblocked until the orgasming is actually good to go.
Banana Kid
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SOMEONE CHECK THE PRESS SITE AND SEE IF CAPCOM'S WEB SECURITY FUCKED UP AGAINenzo_gt said:
Red Arremer
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Nemesis556 said:
I feel my avatar coming true again.
I was wondering about why you want to DHC into Maya's Hyper. I'd think the gameplan for Wright is to get the evidence, switch to courtroom mode, but not take stupid risks in getting the Objection.
Rather use the evidence to make the opponent come to you. THEN fish for the Turnabout. If Wright gets badly hurt, get him out of there without triggering the Turnabout, save him for later. If the Turnabout is triggered, give the opponent the finger, or keep spamming projectiles as they're now vastly better. Try keeping it running until the last third and have three meters ready by then. Try to get a hit confirm off a finger or a projectile to land the Level 3. If not get Wright out of there while in Turnabout mode.
Now as long as you have four meters, you've got Wright's Hyper in DHC reserve. And some characters are much better at opening up for a DHC. Basically, this turns any stray combo into Hyper into a very serious threat.
Well, this is what I'll be trying for with Wright, at least. If he can take on everyone, good! But I'll plan for him to have to retreat.
Rather use the evidence to make the opponent come to you. THEN fish for the Turnabout. If Wright gets badly hurt, get him out of there without triggering the Turnabout, save him for later. If the Turnabout is triggered, give the opponent the finger, or keep spamming projectiles as they're now vastly better. Try keeping it running until the last third and have three meters ready by then. Try to get a hit confirm off a finger or a projectile to land the Level 3. If not get Wright out of there while in Turnabout mode.
Now as long as you have four meters, you've got Wright's Hyper in DHC reserve. And some characters are much better at opening up for a DHC. Basically, this turns any stray combo into Hyper into a very serious threat.
Well, this is what I'll be trying for with Wright, at least. If he can take on everyone, good! But I'll plan for him to have to retreat.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Japanese today or america today?Nemesis556 said:
Cosmic today?
Gunstarheroes
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Nemesis556 said:
Seth Killian save us from this nightmare and deliver onto us the magic that we so crave.