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Uncharted 2 is by far the pinnacle of the Uncharted Series
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Fbh
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Uncharted 2 is the pinnacle of cinematic gaming.
They really figured out how to make you feel like you are playing an action movie with a combination of good pacing, location variety and setpiece moments which are scripted but still require enough player input that you feel like you are an active part of them (something most other cinematic games get wrong).
Sadly we are now in the "muh serious story" era of ND where we can't get games like this anymore because Druckman needs to pretend he is a movie director.
4 is boring as fuck.
Better gunplay means nothing if they massively reduce the number of encounters. The setpieces are crap too aside from the cool jeep sequence. They put some bigger areas in there with literally nothing to do in them (well aside from finding shiny dots on the ground which give you useless collectibles) and it's full of boring modern day "cinematic" moments where you play through barely interactive sequences that focus on story
IMO it's the least replayable ND game by a long shot while Uncharted 2-3 are still fun to go back to from time to time.
Like the first 2 and half hours of U4 are 90% walking and talking, cutscenes, and braindead platforming. At some point you realize you've been playing this third person shooter for 3 hours and spent maybe 15 minutes of that actually shooting. And that's the pacing for the whole game.
Are uncharted 2-3 maybe a bit too much of a shooting gallery? sure. Does it get annoying how they start adding bullet sponge enemies as the only way to increase the challenge? sure.
But if the alternative is cutting two third of the shooting and replacing them with cutscnes, walking and talking, boring platforming that involves zero skill or timing and crate "puzzles" that I'm pretty sure my 5 years old nephew could solve then I'd rather go back to the shooting gallery.
They really figured out how to make you feel like you are playing an action movie with a combination of good pacing, location variety and setpiece moments which are scripted but still require enough player input that you feel like you are an active part of them (something most other cinematic games get wrong).
Sadly we are now in the "muh serious story" era of ND where we can't get games like this anymore because Druckman needs to pretend he is a movie director.
4 is boring as fuck.
Better gunplay means nothing if they massively reduce the number of encounters. The setpieces are crap too aside from the cool jeep sequence. They put some bigger areas in there with literally nothing to do in them (well aside from finding shiny dots on the ground which give you useless collectibles) and it's full of boring modern day "cinematic" moments where you play through barely interactive sequences that focus on story
IMO it's the least replayable ND game by a long shot while Uncharted 2-3 are still fun to go back to from time to time.
Like the first 2 and half hours of U4 are 90% walking and talking, cutscenes, and braindead platforming. At some point you realize you've been playing this third person shooter for 3 hours and spent maybe 15 minutes of that actually shooting. And that's the pacing for the whole game.
Are uncharted 2-3 maybe a bit too much of a shooting gallery? sure. Does it get annoying how they start adding bullet sponge enemies as the only way to increase the challenge? sure.
But if the alternative is cutting two third of the shooting and replacing them with cutscnes, walking and talking, boring platforming that involves zero skill or timing and crate "puzzles" that I'm pretty sure my 5 years old nephew could solve then I'd rather go back to the shooting gallery.
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FalsettoVibe
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What made the others so much worse?
SlimeGooGoo
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Hugare
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By far the best
4 is better on paper: better combat, more open spaces, more gameplay variety, better AI and etc. But pacing sucks, so you'll have 2 minutes of actual combat and then 2h of walk and talk.
2's pacing is perfection. The game tone is also much more fun than 4.
Its the formula perfected
4 is better on paper: better combat, more open spaces, more gameplay variety, better AI and etc. But pacing sucks, so you'll have 2 minutes of actual combat and then 2h of walk and talk.
2's pacing is perfection. The game tone is also much more fun than 4.
Its the formula perfected
Sushi_Combo
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Not only was UC2 a god-tier game, but even the MP was amazing.
First was basic and barebones, third worse than the second in every way and felt cheaper and junkier, fourth the less said the better
DrFigs
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i'm not going to criticize Amy. but she was not responsible for Naughty Dog's best critically received games tlou1 and 2. and she was the lead on uncharted 3 which was terrible. i think you're doing a bit of a revisionist history here.All thanks to this person.
After she was fired, everything went downhill.
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rofif
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she did nonsense nazi zombies and yetis. While I appreciate that tone too, she has nothing on uc4 fantastic storyAll thanks to this person.
After she was fired, everything went downhill.
Whitecrow
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U3 is not terrible by any means. And TLOU is a prety different game, and have nothing to do in this discussion.
Uncharted clearly changed when she was forced to leave. You can agree or not on whether that was for the best.
DrFigs
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i think if the poster wants to say the series went downhill after she left, they'd have to explain why the game that she directed and was the only credited writer on, was not as good as uncharted 2 - a game that she was not the lead on, and where there were other writers. i mean i think uncharted 3's story is nonsensical compared to 4, but the gameplay is not terrible. that's not what i meant. it had some great setpieces too.
LavitzSlambert
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4 was the first good Uncharted game, and the best one. Lost Legacy was good too, but the original trilogy is mid at best. 2 is a low tier Uncharted game, better gameplay than 1 but the story and environments in 1 were much better.
4 >>> LL >>> 3 > 1 = 2
4 >>> LL >>> 3 > 1 = 2
AndrewRyan
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Two is also the most special to me. Though not sure if it's because it was the first in the series that really nailed that movie character experience, or like OP says and it's due to the pacing. Might take someone who plays 3 or 4 first and then 2 to answer that.
OmegaSupreme
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Lost Legacy. The other games go on for too long.
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Freelance Yakuza
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The only bad one is 4
Lost Legacy took everything that was good about 4 and removed the boring stuff
2 was great, I agree
3 had amazing moments too
Lost Legacy took everything that was good about 4 and removed the boring stuff
2 was great, I agree
3 had amazing moments too
Negotiator101
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Exactly after 2 it was all downhill unfortunately.
DownLikeBCPowder
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Yeah this really blew me away at the time.. After playing the first game, this was a whole different world I felt like in terms of a step up. I'll never forget the building setpiece, too. Felt so awesome to have that building start to collapse, really neat emulation of that.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
it's like we played a completely different game
SmokedMeat
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Not sure how it was innovative, but certainly the best Uncharted.
SlimeGooGoo
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Mobilemofo
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Tbf, when uncharted debuted, people were amazed at the animations..graphically it was very much state of the art for consoles, it looked fabulous. If it came out today, it would look pretty incredible I would imagine. You could really work the ps5 hard.uc1 is very harsh to come back to.
if it came out today, they would close the studio, it wouldn't sell a single copy and ND would be no more
I love it's vibe though. I have some nostalgia for it
GamesDontSuck
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It was a great game indeed. Sheesh it's already been 14 years since it came out!
I remember my brother coming back with a copy he bought fromthe local video rental store. Man, where is the time going
I remember my brother coming back with a copy he bought fromthe local video rental store. Man, where is the time going
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James Sawyer Ford
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I completely agree with all of this. UC4 is when Druckman started wanting to go into a more serious tone with a lot more walk and talk sections and less combat due to "complaints" about Nathan being a murderer, and the series suffered for it.
It's still a good game but I haven't replayed it at all because the pacing is shit and the combat is too short
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Trunx81
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Didn’t play 4 yet, but agree with OP that UC2 is the best of the first 3. So many memorable set pieces. From the top of the hotel (MARCO!), the train sequence, the Tibetan village, the wide look over the scenery .. Only GoW2 made me gape in awe like UC2 did. And remember that this ran on a PS3! The 60fps Remaster plays godly.
Part 3 has its moments (especially the turning ship), but the ending felt .. strange.
Part 3 has its moments (especially the turning ship), but the ending felt .. strange.
Brigandier
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clarky
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No lies detected.
BouncyFrag
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UC4 shoehorning in Sam the brother was rubbish. At the end, we should have had the option to drop his ass as he was lying the entire game. Shit tier writing.
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Sushi_Combo
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Was really waiting for his betrayal that would happen late in the game. That would have been much better than what we got.
Slothbeing1209
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UC4 > UC3 = UC2 > UC1.
My favorite is the desert part in UC3 which a lots of people seem to hate that part??
My favorite is the desert part in UC3 which a lots of people seem to hate that part??
Hypereides
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I enjoyed the first 3 entries.
It disappoints me how modern Naughty dog deemed the fantastical and supernatural aspects of the series as "immature"/"childish" or whatever Druckmann and his companions thought. Uncharted 4 had such a great opportunity to throw in zombie pirates in the last section of the game and squandered it.
It disappoints me how modern Naughty dog deemed the fantastical and supernatural aspects of the series as "immature"/"childish" or whatever Druckmann and his companions thought. Uncharted 4 had such a great opportunity to throw in zombie pirates in the last section of the game and squandered it.
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DrFigs
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think we'll have to agree to disagree about whether Naughty Dog went on to make better games after Amy left. I wonder if she will work on the next Forspoken game?
Aenima
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This is how i rate them as well. Each new Uncharted felt better than the last one.
Shadowstar39
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I don't get the uc1 hate. I fact I like it the most as far as memorable moments. As an exploration person I really dug this game. Of course uc2 was better but it was a sequel it better have been. Uc3 had some rough spots and uc4 bad pacing compared to the earlier titles.uc1 is very harsh to come back to.
if it came out today, they would close the studio, it wouldn't sell a single copy and ND would be no more
I love it's vibe though. I have some nostalgia for it
DaciaJC
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for me i liked Uncharted 3 the best
the best indiana jones game ever made
Agreed. Plus Cutter was the best character in the series.
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