Tams
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That was obvious from the reveal trailer.
I honestly didn't see any issue with the rail system. Sure, they were slightly cumbersome to take off, but you never did that frequently, and in return they were rock-solid.
Switch 2 Pro Controller doesn't have analogue triggers. "Pinnacle of all Controllers".
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That was obvious from the reveal trailer.
I honestly didn't see any issue with the rail system. Sure, they were slightly cumbersome to take off, but you never did that frequently, and in return they were rock-solid.
SkylineRKR
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Would be a great controller with Hall and at a lower price. Its overpriced, and drift will likely kick in anyway. It does have some sort of paddles though, which the basic PS and Xbox controllers lack.
I don't care about analog triggers, I mostly set the throw to the shortest setting on my Edge.
I don't care about analog triggers, I mostly set the throw to the shortest setting on my Edge.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
This, it also greatly questions where the fuck is a lot of that money going to, if they are struggling with 20 year old features and even missing features that the current systems have like triggers etc
So its sounding like folks will have to wait for Switch 3 to get those triggers in about 8 years or so and Nintendo can charge some extra online fee to use said triggers lol
The fact that they are even putting simply chatting with people online as a monthly fee is wild.
Making a feature late that is dated and then charging money for said feature is some crazy work
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This is a very bait-driven account that kinda distorts what MKDHB (wtv) says in his video - he simply says that he doesn't know what will happen when kids pull this a lot, but the controller has a wiggle room to prevent breaking.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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bad guy
as bad as Danny Zuko in gym knickers
A racing game with rubber-banding is not a racing game imo.
Shaki12345
Member
If you don't play racing games they are. If you do they are 100% crucial.
The fact that it's not there and still way more expensive is a total joke.
hououinkyouma00
Gold Member
An entire genre basically relies on them for proper gameplay lol
I always find it funny how hard everybody sucks off half effect sticks the last few years when they didn't even know they existed for decades prior. I'm convinced that a lot of people only want them because they are told that they should.
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
Ok, so Nintendo is in trouble. I expected that, actually. What I wanna know is who's winning.
Is it Valve? Is it Apple? Is it Sony? Where do I flock to...crisis for crisis is not useful for anybody. I wanna know where to go.
Is it Valve? Is it Apple? Is it Sony? Where do I flock to...crisis for crisis is not useful for anybody. I wanna know where to go.
Buggy Loop
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Yup. Pirat_Nation guys?
For peoples who clearly have never made a mechanical drawing in their life maybe it was obvious.
Its secure. All those facebook illustrations of breaking it off are completely wrong.
Grizzled Ghost
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Durin
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I've still yet to see anyone strongly defend why analog triggers are bad, especially the Sony & Microsoft elite pads that let you lock the triggers if the excuse is the travel being too long for certain games.
Still blows my mind Nintendo regressed from the Gamecube era triggers, instead of trying to improve the feature further, especially now that its standard nearly everywhere else.
Still blows my mind Nintendo regressed from the Gamecube era triggers, instead of trying to improve the feature further, especially now that its standard nearly everywhere else.
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Shaki12345
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Taking away options from the player is always a bad thing.
But Nintendo is absolutely king in this regard. Another example is in NSO where you are forced to watch ugly borders on the side with your profile icon, without any option to just have black bars.
It's like they do it on purpose.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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And not also allowing us to purchase games on the NSO!
Durin
Member
Yeah, the in general lack of UI customization is also a thing, and I miss the Wii & WiiU days where their UI home was a vibe.
I keep forgetting that Nintendo's most braindead choice as a platform, is that you have to pay a neverending sub to play their ok at best emulation of older games, and not let you individually purchase the ones you want.
It's money in the bank to have a portable where you play all that old stuff + new games...but instead they make converting my old retail games to roms + a Steam Deck the better option.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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You already have a ps5 or SX or PC right? Then there's nowhere else to go. Switch 2 will be amazing since it's the only handheld to play Nintendo exclusives on. 1080p screen with HDR is a big deal. Yeah, they are truly a shitty company who makes regressive decisions that hurt gamers when it comes to the business side of things but this is a much more capable Switch 1 and Nintendo exclusives will be amazing on this thing.
Im pissed about the analog triggers too. Also, I'm really disappointed there's no Oled option. Reports are promising tho that the screen will at least be a lot better than the non oled Switch 1.
I'm also worried tho that Nintendo will only upgrade just a few Switch 1 exclusives....because they're so greedy they won't just offer up simple fps and resolution upgrades, nope, Nintendo wants to add content and turn these games into "full blown Switch 2 games" so they can justify charging full price. When all most people want are 1080p/60 for handheld and 1440p for TV and would probably pay $5-$10 for that ....so at launch there's only 4 games? What about Bayonetta 3, Xenoblade games, Age of Calamity, Mario Odyssey and MANY more that really could use better resolution and framerate! I'm surprised nobody is talking about this....it would be such a big value-ad to the console to update more games!
Bitstream
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Yeahh, I'm sure the zelda games are good, but I'll be fucking damned if I'm paying 90 dollars for a 8 year old game
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
I'm so far removed from the few genres that use them, that when reading OP I paused and couldn't come up with any game that would need it outside of old GC ports. Racing... too many kart games in my life apparently, because I'm fully expecting to accelerate with the A button when I see a car on the screen.
Slightly off-topic rant about triggers, but: moving more of the controls of gaming onto the triggers instead of the face buttons was a huge mistake IMO. Bring us back to gaming that uses all the face buttons and primarily one stick. I actually _prefer_ old-school strafe lock systems instead of double sticks mainly because using two sticks immediately robs you of making the face buttons your primary home. And playing games with triggers for main inputs sucks. They should strafe or lock on or do something like that, they should not be your primary buttons.
Slightly off-topic rant about triggers, but: moving more of the controls of gaming onto the triggers instead of the face buttons was a huge mistake IMO. Bring us back to gaming that uses all the face buttons and primarily one stick. I actually _prefer_ old-school strafe lock systems instead of double sticks mainly because using two sticks immediately robs you of making the face buttons your primary home. And playing games with triggers for main inputs sucks. They should strafe or lock on or do something like that, they should not be your primary buttons.
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Kataploom
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Many people play open world games worth driving using M&K, most PC gamers do actually, I don't think that's a problem. Can it improve experience? Of course, but I don't think it should be a limiting factorOnly if you don't play racing games or open world games with driving.
But obviously the WiiU had a lack of that as wellOnly Watchdogs and Lego City Undercover come to mind. And in those games driving was horrible.
manzo
Member
EXACTLY MY POINT. Racing games DON'T need them on a fucking controller of all places. If you properly play racing games for precision (such as clutch control for drifting with manual transmission), you play them on a steering wheel and pedals and not on a god damn controller.
I can bet my balls that you're just used to the feeling of a trigger instead of a button, but you slam it full throttle and full break while playing, like you would with a single button.
It's the fact you're gotten used to them, but they're not NEEDED, AT ALL.
Also, it's the fucking Switch. You think Mario Kart needs analogue throttle control?
Shaki12345
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Ah so I only have to buy an expensive steering wheel then?EXACTLY MY POINT. Racing games DON'T need them on a fucking controller of all places. If you properly play racing games for precision (such as clutch control for drifting with manual transmission), you play them on a steering wheel and pedals and not on a god damn controller.
I can bet my balls that you're just used to the feeling of a trigger instead of a button, but you slam it full throttle and full break while playing, like you would with a single button.
It's the fact you're gotten used to them, but they're not NEEDED, AT ALL.
Also, it's the fucking Switch. You think Mario Kart needs analogue throttle control?
How about you let the players decide?
I play 1000's of hours of online (serious) racing a year on a gamepad. I can easily compete with steering wheel players. I have great skill developed through all the years. Without analog triggers it would be impossible. I am a top 100 Forza Motorsport player and I would smoke your ass even with the best wheel.
Talk for yourself pal. Nintendo removing options for players is always a bad thing.
People like you only think about their own small little gaming world. There's more than just you.
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Grizzled Ghost
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How about you let the manufacturers decide, since they're the ones with the data, and the money on the line? Nintendo is coming off of the second best selling console of all time, which had the best selling racing game of all time, with no analog triggers in sight.
They've decided analog triggers aren't necessary going forward.
If you want to play Forza, play it on all the other things that are apparently an Xbox now.
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Shaki12345
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So, what exactly do you do at Nintendo?
manzo
Member
Fair enough. But maybe the Switch is not the platform anyway to play racing games on? You, a Forza Motorsport player has controller options for Xbox or PC, wherever you are playing it. You can play with a controller or a steering wheel.
But I still stand by my point. You (and me as I play on a wheel) are the minority. Majority still won't care.
Shaki12345
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That's up to the player to decide isn't it. Nintendo removes the option for third parties and players. Now, if you think that's a good idea..
Lots of racing games could be fun in Switch. Almost all of them. So, no. There isn't a single reason to ommit analoge triggers and a whole freaking genre.
Grizzled Ghost
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Scrub the toilets. Which is how we met iirc.
Shaki12345
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No chance in hell I would ever want to meet someone like you who only thinks about his own little gaming bubble.
Grizzled Ghost
Member
the irony.I owned a Switch for two weeks before I offloaded it, otherwise I haven't had a Nintendo product since I got a Gameboy for my birthday in 1992.
Meanwhile you're over here writing off an entire console because the controller's triggers don't cater to the "hardcore racing fans" who would for some reason want to play their pre-established game of choice as a Switch 2 port.
Who's in the bubble?
Shaki12345
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I have all consoles. I have a S2 preordered. You don't even have a Switch so what are you even doing in this thread?
I owned a Switch for two weeks before I offloaded it, otherwise I haven't had a Nintendo product since I got a Gameboy for my birthday in 1992.
Meanwhile you're over here writing off an entire console because the controller's triggers don't cater to the "hardcore racing fans" who would for some reason want to play their pre-established game of choice as a Switch 2 port.
Who's in the bubble?
I am only arguing that REMOVING options for players and third parties is a bad thing.
Have a good day.
Grizzled Ghost
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No man, you are on an absolute crusade against the Switch 2 for not including analog triggers. It's getting tiring to see in every thread where it's remotely relevant.
Also the Switch didn't have them so what are they removing?
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Shaki12345
Member
You do you. I do me. This is a thread I made myself. Lots of people like this thread.
Go make your own thread where you can discuss how you don't even have a Switch.
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DenchDeckard
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Every legitimate video ive watched from the event talks about how amazing the new connection system if and how sturdy the whole system feels. Seems like a bullshit bait account. So many people trying to spread doubt on Nintendo
Shaki12345
Member
I use X only for movie and political news. All the fanboy and console war stuff there is bad for my brains.
Accounts like the one you posted are only there for console warring and allround negative vibes.
Judge Magister
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This reminds me when Sony did Sixaxis without Rumble and some people were defending that s*.
Shaki12345
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Sixasis isn't necessary for certain popular genres. Analogue triggers are. No reason to leave them out when you can use analogue triggers with a click system like PS.
Judge Magister
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I got confused with your answer. I mean PS3's original Sixaxis controller that had no Rumble, Sony came up with a stupid excuse at the time and later on made a DualShock 3 anyway.
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Shaki12345
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No rumble is just a bad as no analogue triggers.
BlackTron
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Nintendo decided in advance that the only important racing game is Kart.
hououinkyouma00
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Do you need them as in it's not playable at all without them? No, but racing games are much better with them.EXACTLY MY POINT. Racing games DON'T need them on a fucking controller of all places. If you properly play racing games for precision (such as clutch control for drifting with manual transmission), you play them on a steering wheel and pedals and not on a god damn controller.
I can bet my balls that you're just used to the feeling of a trigger instead of a button, but you slam it full throttle and full break while playing, like you would with a single button.
It's the fact you're gotten used to them, but they're not NEEDED, AT ALL.
Also, it's the fucking Switch. You think Mario Kart needs analogue throttle control?
I don't slam the button. I use them for proper throttle control and drifting in everything but an arcade racer.
Something like Mario Kart doesn't need it but if they are trying to attract bigger third party games then why wouldn't you have it?
You don't like them. That's fine.
Shaki12345
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This would only work if the new GameCube controller doesn't function as a Pro Controller like with Switch 1.
Or use a GameCube controller with a WiiU adapter. That worked on Switch, but then again the analogue triggers on GameCube aren't really all that great for racing games.
Nintendo should have used the trigger system Sony uses for PS5.
Tommi84
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Are you having a stroke or something? Do we need to call an ambulance?BUhh DUhh ow dooo eye play racing gamez with no anal-logs? I canz not sloz downies!
GT2 was releases TWENTY SIX years ago. I believe there should be some improvements already
BlackTron
Member
I know there are various controllers that come in the shape of a GC controller, but yeah I mean an actual GC controller that has analog triggers. We know that they will work on Switch because they patched Sunshine with an update to use the analog flow control, so it's all software regardless that it shows up as a Pro controller in the OS.
Since they already have GC support and are even making new wireless GC controllers now, it seems like an obvious "better than nothing" solution for games that made use of it, better than disabling it entirely, even if we'd prefer a newer gamepad.
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Baemono
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Let me guess, is the reviewer MB8HD 4K120FPSHDR ?
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Shaki12345
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Let's hope the GameCube controller gives analogue controls this time around. But then again, it should have been on the Pro Controller.
GameCube controller is a limited controller. Can't believe Nintendo doesn't give a F about third parties and their racing games.
It's absolutely infuriating.