Switch 2 Pro Controller doesn't have analogue triggers. "Pinnacle of all Controllers".

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That was obvious from the reveal trailer.

I honestly didn't see any issue with the rail system. Sure, they were slightly cumbersome to take off, but you never did that frequently, and in return they were rock-solid.
 
Would be a great controller with Hall and at a lower price. Its overpriced, and drift will likely kick in anyway. It does have some sort of paddles though, which the basic PS and Xbox controllers lack.

I don't care about analog triggers, I mostly set the throw to the shortest setting on my Edge.
 
The lack of analog triggers completely ruins racing games on the Switch. Would have been nice to have them on Switch 2.

Nintendo has people excited about camera/chat features that launched with the XBOX 360 20 years ago, so they'll be able to do the same with analog triggers 40 years after their existence.

This, it also greatly questions where the fuck is a lot of that money going to, if they are struggling with 20 year old features and even missing features that the current systems have like triggers etc

So its sounding like folks will have to wait for Switch 3 to get those triggers in about 8 years or so and Nintendo can charge some extra online fee to use said triggers lol

The fact that they are even putting simply chatting with people online as a monthly fee is wild.

Making a feature late that is dated and then charging money for said feature is some crazy work
 
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Actually, analogue triggers are the most useless things ever.

But the hall effect sticks is a fucking problem. Hopefully Aliexpress gets soon hall effect versions of the joycons like for the original switch.
 
Actually, analogue triggers are the most useless things ever.

But the hall effect sticks is a fucking problem. Hopefully Aliexpress gets soon hall effect versions of the joycons like for the original switch.
If you don't play racing games they are. If you do they are 100% crucial.

The fact that it's not there and still way more expensive is a total joke.
 
Actually, analogue triggers are the most useless things ever.

But the hall effect sticks is a fucking problem. Hopefully Aliexpress gets soon hall effect versions of the joycons like for the original switch.
An entire genre basically relies on them for proper gameplay lol

I always find it funny how hard everybody sucks off half effect sticks the last few years when they didn't even know they existed for decades prior. I'm convinced that a lot of people only want them because they are told that they should.
 
Ok, so Nintendo is in trouble. I expected that, actually. What I wanna know is who's winning.

Is it Valve? Is it Apple? Is it Sony? Where do I flock to...crisis for crisis is not useful for anybody. I wanna know where to go.
 
This is a very bait-driven account that kinda distorts what MKDHB (wtv) says in his video - he simply says that he doesn't know what will happen when kids pull this a lot, but the controller has a wiggle room to prevent breaking.

Yup. Pirat_Nation guys?

That was obvious from the reveal trailer

For peoples who clearly have never made a mechanical drawing in their life maybe it was obvious.

Its secure. All those facebook illustrations of breaking it off are completely wrong.
 
I've still yet to see anyone strongly defend why analog triggers are bad, especially the Sony & Microsoft elite pads that let you lock the triggers if the excuse is the travel being too long for certain games.

Still blows my mind Nintendo regressed from the Gamecube era triggers, instead of trying to improve the feature further, especially now that its standard nearly everywhere else.
 
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I've still yet to see anyone strongly defend why analog triggers are bad, especially the Sony & Microsoft elite pads that let you lock the triggers if the excuse is the travel being too long for certain games.

Still blows my mind Nintendo regressed from the Gamecube era triggers, instead of trying to improve the feature further, especially now that's its standard nearly everywhere else.
Taking away options from the player is always a bad thing.

But Nintendo is absolutely king in this regard. Another example is in NSO where you are forced to watch ugly borders on the side with your profile icon, without any option to just have black bars.

It's like they do it on purpose.
 
Taking away options from the player is always a bad thing.

But Nintendo is absolutely king in this regard. Another example is in NSO where you are forced to watch ugly borders on the side with your profile icon, without any option to just have black bars.

It's like they do it on purpose.
And not also allowing us to purchase games on the NSO!
 
Taking away options from the player is always a bad thing.

But Nintendo is absolutely king in this regard. Another example is in NSO where you are forced to watch ugly borders on the side with your profile icon, without any option to just have black bars.

It's like they do it on purpose.
Yeah, the in general lack of UI customization is also a thing, and I miss the Wii & WiiU days where their UI home was a vibe.

And not also allowing us to purchase games on the NSO!
I keep forgetting that Nintendo's most braindead choice as a platform, is that you have to pay a neverending sub to play their ok at best emulation of older games, and not let you individually purchase the ones you want.

It's money in the bank to have a portable where you play all that old stuff + new games...but instead they make converting my old retail games to roms + a Steam Deck the better option.
 
Ok, so Nintendo is in trouble. I expected that, actually. What I wanna know is who's winning.

Is it Valve? Is it Apple? Is it Sony? Where do I flock to...crisis for crisis is not useful for anybody. I wanna know where to go.
You already have a ps5 or SX or PC right? Then there's nowhere else to go. Switch 2 will be amazing since it's the only handheld to play Nintendo exclusives on. 1080p screen with HDR is a big deal. Yeah, they are truly a shitty company who makes regressive decisions that hurt gamers when it comes to the business side of things but this is a much more capable Switch 1 and Nintendo exclusives will be amazing on this thing.

Im pissed about the analog triggers too. Also, I'm really disappointed there's no Oled option. Reports are promising tho that the screen will at least be a lot better than the non oled Switch 1.

I'm also worried tho that Nintendo will only upgrade just a few Switch 1 exclusives....because they're so greedy they won't just offer up simple fps and resolution upgrades, nope, Nintendo wants to add content and turn these games into "full blown Switch 2 games" so they can justify charging full price. When all most people want are 1080p/60 for handheld and 1440p for TV and would probably pay $5-$10 for that ....so at launch there's only 4 games? What about Bayonetta 3, Xenoblade games, Age of Calamity, Mario Odyssey and MANY more that really could use better resolution and framerate! I'm surprised nobody is talking about this....it would be such a big value-ad to the console to update more games!
 
I'm also worried tho that Nintendo will only upgrade just a few Switch 1 exclusives....because they're so greedy they won't just offer up simple fps and resolution upgrades, nope, Nintendo wants to add content and turn these games into "full blown Switch 2 games" so they can justify charging full price.
Yeahh, I'm sure the zelda games are good, but I'll be fucking damned if I'm paying 90 dollars for a 8 year old game
 
I'm so far removed from the few genres that use them, that when reading OP I paused and couldn't come up with any game that would need it outside of old GC ports. Racing... too many kart games in my life apparently, because I'm fully expecting to accelerate with the A button when I see a car on the screen.

Slightly off-topic rant about triggers, but: moving more of the controls of gaming onto the triggers instead of the face buttons was a huge mistake IMO. Bring us back to gaming that uses all the face buttons and primarily one stick. I actually _prefer_ old-school strafe lock systems instead of double sticks mainly because using two sticks immediately robs you of making the face buttons your primary home. And playing games with triggers for main inputs sucks. They should strafe or lock on or do something like that, they should not be your primary buttons.
 
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Only if you don't play racing games or open world games with driving.

But obviously the WiiU had a lack of that as well ;) Only Watchdogs and Lego City Undercover come to mind. And in those games driving was horrible.
Many people play open world games worth driving using M&K, most PC gamers do actually, I don't think that's a problem. Can it improve experience? Of course, but I don't think it should be a limiting factor
 
If you don't play racing games they are. If you do they are 100% crucial.

The fact that it's not there and still way more expensive is a total joke.

An entire genre basically relies on them for proper gameplay lol

I always find it funny how hard everybody sucks off half effect sticks the last few years when they didn't even know they existed for decades prior. I'm convinced that a lot of people only want them because they are told that they should.

EXACTLY MY POINT. Racing games DON'T need them on a fucking controller of all places. If you properly play racing games for precision (such as clutch control for drifting with manual transmission), you play them on a steering wheel and pedals and not on a god damn controller.

I can bet my balls that you're just used to the feeling of a trigger instead of a button, but you slam it full throttle and full break while playing, like you would with a single button.

It's the fact you're gotten used to them, but they're not NEEDED, AT ALL.

Also, it's the fucking Switch. You think Mario Kart needs analogue throttle control? :D
 
EXACTLY MY POINT. Racing games DON'T need them on a fucking controller of all places. If you properly play racing games for precision (such as clutch control for drifting with manual transmission), you play them on a steering wheel and pedals and not on a god damn controller.

I can bet my balls that you're just used to the feeling of a trigger instead of a button, but you slam it full throttle and full break while playing, like you would with a single button.

It's the fact you're gotten used to them, but they're not NEEDED, AT ALL.

Also, it's the fucking Switch. You think Mario Kart needs analogue throttle control? :D
Ah so I only have to buy an expensive steering wheel then?

How about you let the players decide?

I play 1000's of hours of online (serious) racing a year on a gamepad. I can easily compete with steering wheel players. I have great skill developed through all the years. Without analog triggers it would be impossible. I am a top 100 Forza Motorsport player and I would smoke your ass even with the best wheel.

Talk for yourself pal. Nintendo removing options for players is always a bad thing.

People like you only think about their own small little gaming world. There's more than just you.
 
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Ah so I only have to buy an expensive steering wheel then?

How about you let the players decide?

I play 1000's of hours of online (serious) racing a year on a gamepad. I can easily compete with steering wheel players. I have great skill developed through all the years. Without analog triggers it would be impossible. I am a top 100 Forza Motorsport player and I would smoke your ass even with the best wheel.

Talk for yourself pal. Nintendo removing options for players is always a bad thing.

People like you only think about their own small little gaming world. There's more than just you.

How about you let the manufacturers decide, since they're the ones with the data, and the money on the line? Nintendo is coming off of the second best selling console of all time, which had the best selling racing game of all time, with no analog triggers in sight.

They've decided analog triggers aren't necessary going forward.

If you want to play Forza, play it on all the other things that are apparently an Xbox now.
 
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How about you let the manufacturers decide, since they're the ones with the data, and the money on the line? Nintendo is coming off of the second best selling console of all time, which had the best selling racing game of all time, with no analog triggers in sight.

They've decided analog triggers aren't necessary going forward.

If you want to play Forza, play it on all the other things that are apparently an Xbox now.
So, what exactly do you do at Nintendo?
 
Ah so I only have to buy an expensive steering wheel then?

How about you let the players decide?

I play 1000's of hours of online (serious) racing a year on a gamepad. I can easily compete with steering wheel players. I have great skill developed through all the years. Without analog triggers it would be impossible. I am a top 100 Forza Motorsport player and I would smoke your ass even with the best wheel.

Talk for yourself pal. Nintendo removing options for players is always a bad thing.

People like you only think about their own small little gaming world. There's more than just you.

Fair enough. But maybe the Switch is not the platform anyway to play racing games on? You, a Forza Motorsport player has controller options for Xbox or PC, wherever you are playing it. You can play with a controller or a steering wheel.

But I still stand by my point. You (and me as I play on a wheel) are the minority. Majority still won't care.
 
Fair enough. But maybe the Switch is not the platform anyway to play racing games on? You, a Forza Motorsport player has controller options for Xbox or PC, wherever you are playing it. You can play with a controller or a steering wheel.

But I still stand by my point. You (and me as I play on a wheel) are the minority. Majority still won't care.
That's up to the player to decide isn't it. Nintendo removes the option for third parties and players. Now, if you think that's a good idea..

Lots of racing games could be fun in Switch. Almost all of them. So, no. There isn't a single reason to ommit analoge triggers and a whole freaking genre.
 
No chance in hell I would ever want to meet someone like you who only thinks about his own little gaming bubble.

:messenger_grinning_smiling: the irony.

I owned a Switch for two weeks before I offloaded it, otherwise I haven't had a Nintendo product since I got a Gameboy for my birthday in 1992.

Meanwhile you're over here writing off an entire console because the controller's triggers don't cater to the "hardcore racing fans" who would for some reason want to play their pre-established game of choice as a Switch 2 port.

Who's in the bubble?
 
:messenger_grinning_smiling: the irony.

I owned a Switch for two weeks before I offloaded it, otherwise I haven't had a Nintendo product since I got a Gameboy for my birthday in 1992.

Meanwhile you're over here writing off an entire console because the controller's triggers don't cater to the "hardcore racing fans" who would for some reason want to play their pre-established game of choice as a Switch 2 port.

Who's in the bubble?
I have all consoles. I have a S2 preordered. You don't even have a Switch so what are you even doing in this thread?

I am only arguing that REMOVING options for players and third parties is a bad thing.

Have a good day.
 
I am only arguing that REMOVING options for players and third parties is a bad thing.

No man, you are on an absolute crusade against the Switch 2 for not including analog triggers. It's getting tiring to see in every thread where it's remotely relevant.

Also the Switch didn't have them so what are they removing?
 
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No man, you are on an absolute crusade against the Switch 2 for not including analog triggers. It's getting tiring to see in every thread where it's remotely relevant.
You do you. I do me. This is a thread I made myself. Lots of people like this thread.

Go make your own thread where you can discuss how you don't even have a Switch.
 
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That was obvious from the reveal trailer.

I honestly didn't see any issue with the rail system. Sure, they were slightly cumbersome to take off, but you never did that frequently, and in return they were rock-solid.

Every legitimate video ive watched from the event talks about how amazing the new connection system if and how sturdy the whole system feels. Seems like a bullshit bait account. So many people trying to spread doubt on Nintendo
 
Every legitimate video ive watched from the event talks about how amazing the new connection system if and how sturdy the whole system feels. Seems like a bullshit bait account. So many people trying to spread doubt on Nintendo
I use X only for movie and political news. All the fanboy and console war stuff there is bad for my brains.

Accounts like the one you posted are only there for console warring and allround negative vibes.
 
EXACTLY MY POINT. Racing games DON'T need them on a fucking controller of all places. If you properly play racing games for precision (such as clutch control for drifting with manual transmission), you play them on a steering wheel and pedals and not on a god damn controller.

I can bet my balls that you're just used to the feeling of a trigger instead of a button, but you slam it full throttle and full break while playing, like you would with a single button.

It's the fact you're gotten used to them, but they're not NEEDED, AT ALL.

Also, it's the fucking Switch. You think Mario Kart needs analogue throttle control? :D
Do you need them as in it's not playable at all without them? No, but racing games are much better with them.

I don't slam the button. I use them for proper throttle control and drifting in everything but an arcade racer.

Something like Mario Kart doesn't need it but if they are trying to attract bigger third party games then why wouldn't you have it?

You don't like them. That's fine.
 
The least Xbox can do if they bring Forza over is make sure the analog works with a Gamecube controller.

I'm looking at you, Phil. Don't forget that Gamecube support in Forza. It's not enough to support Nintendo, you must support back twenty years.
 
The least Xbox can do if they bring Forza over is make sure the analog works with a Gamecube controller.

I'm looking at you, Phil. Don't forget that Gamecube support in Forza. It's not enough to support Nintendo, you must support back twenty years.
This would only work if the new GameCube controller doesn't function as a Pro Controller like with Switch 1.

Or use a GameCube controller with a WiiU adapter. That worked on Switch, but then again the analogue triggers on GameCube aren't really all that great for racing games.

Nintendo should have used the trigger system Sony uses for PS5.
 
BUhh DUhh ow dooo eye play racing gamez with no anal-logs? I canz not sloz downies! :messenger_loudly_crying:
Are you having a stroke or something? Do we need to call an ambulance?

GT2 was releases TWENTY SIX years ago. I believe there should be some improvements already
 
This would only work if the new GameCube controller doesn't function as a Pro Controller like with Switch 1.

Or use a GameCube controller with a WiiU adapter. That worked on Switch, but then again the analogue triggers on GameCube aren't really all that great for racing games.

Nintendo should have used the trigger system Sony uses for PS5.

I know there are various controllers that come in the shape of a GC controller, but yeah I mean an actual GC controller that has analog triggers. We know that they will work on Switch because they patched Sunshine with an update to use the analog flow control, so it's all software regardless that it shows up as a Pro controller in the OS.

Since they already have GC support and are even making new wireless GC controllers now, it seems like an obvious "better than nothing" solution for games that made use of it, better than disabling it entirely, even if we'd prefer a newer gamepad.
 
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I know there are various controllers that come in the shape of a GC controller, but yeah I mean an actual GC controller that has analog triggers. We know that they will work on Switch because they patched Sunshine with an update to use the analog flow control, so it's all software regardless that it shows up as a Pro controller in the OS.

Since they already have GC support and are even making new wireless GC controllers now, it seems like an obvious "better than nothing" solution for games that made use of it, better than disabling it entirely, even if we'd prefer a newer gamepad.
Let's hope the GameCube controller gives analogue controls this time around. But then again, it should have been on the Pro Controller.

GameCube controller is a limited controller. Can't believe Nintendo doesn't give a F about third parties and their racing games.

It's absolutely infuriating.
 
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